basic due process and our basic and fundamental concern for free speech be five i think you been wrongly described over the decades but i think i would describe you as a libertarian constitutionalist. >> i think that's absolutely accurate. i'm a liberal civil libertarian libertarian. >> but your classical liberal. >> and i want to bring them together to fight the extremists on both sides, both of whom are denied due process and free speech. i think we have to keep our constitution sacred. >> you agree that the hard left in the democrat party and elsewhere. >> certainly in academic life. that's the future. today's students who are being propagandized to diminish the importance of due process are our future leaders. that's my biggest concern. >> i gotta bring you back to