care. they have seen this administration strip it away, offer no new all tentatives, cut medicare. we have seen people kicked off health care with nothing to show for donald trump's plans. >> that is called obamacare. obamacare is broken and was supposed to be fixed. you guys didn't do it. >> in 2018, in 2018, democrats got 10 million more votes in house races running on health care. mike: it has been buzz about the possibility of four different candidates winning first four states, buttigieg iowa, warren new hampshire, biden south carolina and sanders nevada. joel, would that be good for democrats or chaos? >> well, a little of both. definitely a lot of chaos and the question of a brokered convention looms out there but when we have such a diverse, engaged field it impacts voters. democrats are getting out to many new voters. their reach is long and extensive this will only build for a stronger general election turnout. certainly in the near term. there are no party bosses behind the scenes pulling strings.