lives. jamie mcbride, l.a.p.d. director and director of the los angeles protective league is here and the fresno county district attorney is here, too. welcome both of you and thank you for this hour of your time. lisa, i want to talk with you. you do a similar job quite differently. what does gascon mean, the district attorney says punishment-based approach doesn't work. what does he want to do with criminals? yell and put them in time out? >> i think he should not be referred to as a district attorney. an impose tore district attorney. the district attorney should have the law enforcement official. he is a public defender in disguise. never tried a case or been in a courtroom. he is pushing an agenda of the people funding his campaign. and he is destroying the