of that money elsewhere, so that gets tighter. the other thing is biden cannot hold a news cycle come he cannot win a new cycle. he can go to france and still not win a new cycle. abc news did this big interview with him. they went over there when he was interviewing, what, zelenskyy, they do a big interview with biden, makes no news, doesn't even make this interview with biden in france didn't even make the front page of their website. so i think in the lead up between now and the debate, trump is going to try to figure out a way to win every news cycle, like he has been doing, and that gets you that hype, leading up to the mike tyson, what's his name -- >> harold: jake paul. >> dana: i was going to say john paul, but he was a pope. but like that, you have to get hyped for that and get ready but i think this is the ramp up to that. biden can't win a new cycle. >> judge jeanine: you know, jesse, one of the things donald trump has done is he has really criticized joe biden in this alleged securing the border, executive order, you