>> i think so, yeah. >> i am wondering, clearly this is a priority for you. you did these interviews on the record, these reporters -- >> i did interviews on the record, off the record and background interviews and i do it with print media, television media, books, dock men tearies, all kinds of things. >> why would you do background on off-the-record interviews? background means you can't quote you -- if the goal is transparency? >> the transparency goes to the fact to make sure that we're explaining ourselves, make sure that these authors have correct no, sir. let's take woodward, for example. probably 200 people interviewed and approached any guys to say are these facts true, this is what we heard. we clarify and mitigate any incorrect -- >> interesting. i -- it's interesting. your doing the interviews and