wade through here. >> the cdc hasn't had in critic's minds their own data and statistics. you've been relying on israel and other places on big policy decisions that affect everybody. >> we've had data that has not been interoperable among states. we've had a weak capacity. >> martha: how does that happen? let's put up the number of american taxpayer dollars. $7 billion went to the cdc. $7 billion in 2021. we to we have no data and weak lab capacity, doctor? >> martha, when i was cdc director, one of the first things i observed is that there was an inadequate system for public health data in this nation. when we had the measles outbreak, we had state health departments that were doing pen and pencil communications. so i became a big proponent with congress to do what i call the