He must prove to be up to the challenge. When i tell the American People im going to do something, i follow through. Tonight, both candidates make their case to the American People as they look for strength and leadership. Who will stand out, both will try to together. This is the most important election in the history of our country. Time for us, for we the people to come together. The candidates are on the clock and america is watching. Bret and welcome to cleveland with the biggest stage in the nation is set for President Trump and former Vice President biden to finally go toetotoe in the first president ial debate of 2020. Good evening, im bret baier. Martha and good evening, im martha maccallum. We are live on the campus of Case Western Reserve University and the cleveland clinic, and tonight is the night for tonight is the night for one of the most highly anticipated debates in history. They are about to get things underway. It comes anytime that the natio is struggling with somebody things when you look at coronavirus whoever is presiden for the next four years is goin to have an opportunity to see u out of this. These two men are going to have a chance to show the country ho they would handle the difficult challenges. There were a few people here in the audience. You can see Chris Wallace getting ready. Hes going to go for roughly si minutes. Fifty minutes for each one of these backandforth. This is the big contest and the big night where these two men share a stage for the first tim ever in this role. Chris wallace the colligan friend. Chris good evening from the Health Education campus of Case Western Reserve University and im Chris Wallace of fox news and i will commune this is between and dont trump and the former Vice President. This debate is sponsored by the commission of president ial debates. Both campaigns have agreed to israels. For the record ive decided the topics and the questions in eac topic i can assure you none of these questions have been share with the commission this debate is being conducted under health and safety protocols designed b the cleveland clinic. Serves as the health character advisor for all four debates. As a precaution both campaigns a have agreed the candidates will not shake hands the beginning o tonights debate. The audience in the hall has promised to remain silent. We are welcoming their publican nominee president donald trump. A lot of people have been waiting for this night lets ge going. The first subject is going to b the Supreme Court. Youve nominated amy over the weekend to succeed the late crusader differed on the court. The constitution is clear about your obligation of the senate t considerit in nominee to the c court. Vice president did youou say th is an effort by the president and republicans to jim through an appointment and what you cal an abuse of power. My first question too both of you tonight is why argue right and make the argument and why i the opponent wrong and where do you think a justice would take the court lacks. I will tie you very simply w won the election. Elections have consequences we have the senate and the white house. Weve got a phenomenal nominee. Top in academic and good in every way. In fact some of her biggest endorsers are very liberal people. I think shes going to be fantastic we have plenty of ti time. Even if we did it after the election itself ive got a lot of time after the election. Weve got a professor at notre dame highly respected by all said she is the single greatest student shes ever had. Weve got the right to choose her and very few would knowingl say otherwise. The problem is they did not hav the election. They were stopped. That might happen in reverse also. We won the election and we have the right to do this chris. The same question to you vic President Biden. You got two minutes. Thank you for doing this and im looking forward to this mr mr. President. The American People have a righ two have a say in who the Supreme Court nominee is. When you vote for a us senator and when you vote for the president of the United States. They are not going to get that chance because we are in the middle of an election already. Cte election has already start started. People have already voted. The thing that should happen is that we should wait. We should wait and see with the outcome of the election is. As the only way they get to t express his who the elected as president and Vice President. Whats at stake is the presiden has made it clear he wants to get rid of the Affordable Care act. He ran on this and hes been governing on this. s its own to strip 20 Million People for having insurance and Health Insurance now. The justice and i have nothing. Im not opposed to the justice she seemed to come very fine person. The rates are fundamentally change once again. She could pay more money becaus she has a preexisting conditio or pregnancy. Theyin can chargeti or more for same exact procedure. This ended when we infect past the Affordable Care act. There is 100 Million People wit preexisting conditions. They are going to be taken away as well. Insurance companies are c going love this. Is just not appropriate. There werent 194 with pre existing arconditions. People already had their say. Okay she said very powerfully and very strongly at some point ten years ago or so she said a president in the senatego is elected for a period of time. Im not elected for three years. So we had the senate and we hav a president. During this period of time we have an opening. I wasnt elected for three year i was elected for four years. I dont know where you are getting this number. The larger problem that you are having is that you are going to extinguish 180 main people with the private healthcare. [speaking at once] we are now into open discussion i agree. He knows what i propose. And whatat i proposed is that w expand obama care. We can increase this we dont wipe anything. One of the big debates we had with one of my colleagues tryin to win the domination that i wo we said thatco i wanted to allo people to have private insuran insurance. They can and they do and they will under my proposal. This is simply wants to go socit [speaking at once] ct, approved. What i approved of. Now heres the deal. Its is going to wipe out preexisting conditions. There are 7 Million People that have contracted the virus. What does it mean for them goin forward if we strike down the Affordable Care actt. Affordable care act . President trump you had 308,000 military people dying because you im happy to talk about that. If you werent here it was going to be 2 million because you were so late on the draw. D. China was heavily infected. [speaking at once] were talking about 2 Million People. Chris gentlemen. We are going to talk about covid in the next segment let me finish. The point is the president also as opposed to roll be weighed. Thats about as well in the court. Its not on the ballot. It on the ballot in the cou court. Theres nothing happening there. Court. In the court. President trump [speaking at once] come back to roe v. Wade, the they will hear a case a week after the election in which the Trump Administration along with ending obama care. Over the last four years you have promised to repeal and replace obama care. Youve never come up with a comprehensive plan. I got rid of the you President Trump excuse me. I got rid of the [speaking at once] ask my questd then you can answer. President trump go ahead in the course ofhr his four yea you have not come up with a com rents a plan replace obama care and just last thursday you signed a largely symbolic executive order to protect people with preexisting conditions five days before thi debate. My question is what is the trum Health Care Plan . Let me just tell you something. There is nothing symbolic. Im cutting drug prices and kno what other president has the courage to do this. Drug prices are going to come down 80 or 90 percent. You could have done that when you were here in government but you didnt. We are cutting healthcare. I will give you an example itsmp insulin. It was destroyingg families and people because im getting it for so cheap. Its like water if you want to know the truth. We are going to allow the governors to go to other countries to buy drugs. We [speaking at once] this is open discussion. Sir, youll be happy im about to pick up on one of your points to ask the Vice President. He points out that you would he pointed out you would lik to add a t public option to oba care and the argument that he makes and other republicans make is that this is going to end up private insurance. It will end private insurance and create a romantic or. Its only for those that are so poor they can qualify for medicaid. Its free. Anybody wholi qualifies that wo automatically be enrolled in th public option. The vast majority of the American People would still not be in that option. You agree with Bernie Sander and the part [speaking at once] manifesto, wl it Vice President biden im not even going to listen to him. The fact of [speaking at once] lost every p. You got very lucky. Vice President Biden i got heres the deal. The fact is everything he is saying so far is simply a lie. And not here too colletts lies and we all liar. Everybody knows hes a liar. I just want to make sure [laughs] god. Chris mr. President , can you let him finish, [speaking at once] n socialized medicine. Chris mr. Altai you what he is not for any help for people that need healthcare. Because he in fact has already cost 10 Million People their healthcare. There are 20 Million People getting healthcare and they wan this away. [speaking at once] might know, but probably dont chris gentlemen, you are both speaking at the s obama care is no good. We made this better and had a choice to make early on. They shouldnt even call this obama care. I had a choice to make. Do i let my people run this ver well. If iran is poorly they might blame him but they might blame me. I just had a meeting with them and they said the problem is th matter how well you runn a obam care if a disaster. Its too expensive the premiums are too high. We want to get rid of this. I have to give you roughly equa time. Sir, but i have to give you roughly equal time. Please let he has no plan for healthca healthcare. He sent so wishful thinking. He has executive orders with no power. He hasnt lower drug costs for anybody. Hes been promising healthcare planet since he started. He doesnt have a plan. He does not have a plan and he does not know what hes talking about. N. N. I get one final question for you mr. Vice president. If republicans we talked about this originally while the Supreme Court. If they go ahead and confirm th justice there has been talk about ending the filibuster. You call this a distraction by the president but it actually was not brought up by president was routed by the Democratic College in congress. My question is you have refused in the past to talk about this are you willing to tell the people tonight whether or not you are going toer support eith ending it or packing the court . R packing the court Vice President biden whatever the position i take, that will be the issue. The iss you should go out and vote. Vote and let your senators know how strongly you feel. Your senw how strongly [speaking at once]ee that question . The radical left v [speaking at once] i think we have ended this segment we are going to move on to the second segment. The people understand. Was really a [speaking at once] have done no. Chris all right, the second subject is covid19, which is an awfully serious subject so lets try to be serious about it. We have had more than 7 million cases of coronavirus in the United States and more than 200,000 people more than 200,000 people have died. Even after we produce a vaccine experts say it would be months or even years before we come back to anything approachings normal. My question for both of you is based on what you have said and done so far why should the American People trust you more than your opponent. 200,000 deadd as you said at 7 million infected in the unite states. 40,000 people a day are contracting the virus. About 1,000 per day are dying. When he was presented with that number he wass saying that it i what it is. The president does not have a plan. We knew back in february how serious the crisis was. Did knew it was a deadly diseas and what did he do . Hes on tape as acknowledging that he knew this. He did not want to panic the American People. In addition to that what they do . Insisting the people we had an ground and china should be able to go in and determine for themselves how dangerous this was. He didnt ask the president to do that. Hes said what a great job he wa doing and we owe them a debt of gratitude. He then waited and waited. He still doesnt have a plan. I laid out exactly which we should be doing. We should be providing monies and houses. We should open the schools but it costs a lot of money. Get out of your bunker and the sand trap and get in the golf course. Youve got two minutes. If we wouldve listened to you the country would have been left wide open. If one person is too much its chinas fault that never should have happened. Its chinas fault. If you look at what we should have done. You called me a racist because you didntob think we shouldve closed the country. You didnt think we should have closed the country because you thought it was terrible. You wouldnt have closed the country for another couple of months. I did this early in the doctor fid President Trump saved thousands of lies. Many of your democratic governors said President Trump did a phenomenal job. Most of them said it is a great job. People that would not necessarily be on my side said that. We did a phenomenal job. We got the masks and made the ventilators. Now we are weeks away from a vaccine. Fewer are dying when they get sick. Weve done a great job. The only thing i havent done a good job of because of the fake news. Matter what you say if they giv you bad press. They give you good press and they give me bad press. You could never have done the job that we did. Red you dont have it in your blood. I know how to do the job and how to get the job done. You didnt do very well with swine flu. President trump well, you didnt [speaking at once] this is his economy that he shut down. The reason it shut down is because how many of you got up this morning and had an empty chair at the Kitchen Table because somebody died of the virus. His own cdc director said we could lose as many as 200,000 between now and the end of his career. If we just wear a mask we could drastically decrease the numbe numbers. We want a vaccine but i dont trust him at all. We trust a scientist. What we trust is [speaking at once] let me move on to questions about the future. Focusing in a future first President Trump you have repeatedly other contradicted o been at odds with the countries had scientists. The doctor said it could be summer before the vaccine could become generally available to the public. Used that he was confused and mistaken. As the head of your operation has said exactly the same thing. Are they both run . I spoke to the companies and we can have this a lot sooner. People like this would rather make a political than stabilize. Have spoke to everybody. They can go faster than that by a lot. But its become so political because the left. He said it could be there but i could also be much sooner. Using my office a couple of day ago. Is the possibility we are going to have the answer before november 1st. It could also be after. We are going to deliver this right away we got the military set up. Weve got our military to deliver soldiers. Its like a miracle. By the way maybe you could maybd inject some bleach in [speaking at once] hes talking about a vaccine. Every Serious Company is talkin about may be having a vaccine done. The distributionr of a vaccine will not occur until some time until the beginning of next ye year. Id like to pick up on this question. Use of the public can trust the scientists but they cant trust the president. And you said this again tonight. Your running mate said it goes further saying the public healt experts with muzzled and suppressed. Given the fact that polls already show people are concerned about the vaccine and are reluctant to take this are you and youre running mate contributing to this fear . No more than a question you just asked. You pointed this out. He disagrees with his own scientist. Re the Public Health experts are going to be muzzled and suppressed. T effigies going to try to do. There are thousands of scientists out there like here atzz this grid hospital. At they dont depend a number go these are the people and by the wayim do you believe for a mome what he is telling you in light of all the lies that hes told you about the whole issue . Ov he still hasnt even acknowledged that he knew this was happening and knew how dangerous it was going to be back in february. He didnt even tell you, hes o record saying this. He either panicked or just looked at the stock market because a lot of people died. A lot more are going to die unless he gets a lot smarter a lot quicker. 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