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FOXNEWSW FOX News Sunday With Chris Wallace January 11, 2015

Our sunday group ways in. A showdown between the white house and congress over the keystone xl pipeline. I can confirm if it passes this congress, the president who not seen it. Threatening to veto a jobs and infrastructure minutes of taking the oath is anything but roddive. We will discuss keystone xl pipeline and the veto threat with two leading senators, republic john hogan and democrat all right now on fox news paris remains on high alert after three days of savage attacks by islamic jihadists. We will have an interview with the chairman of joint chiefs of staff in a moment. But we begin with fox team coverage. Chief intelligence correspondent on how the terrorists were radicalized. But, first, greg palkot is in paris with the latest. Greg . There was a massive march of unity against terror here today after a terrible and deadly week. Hundreds of thousands taking to the streets close to 50 World Leaders and officials present including United States attorney general holder here for a summit on terrorism. The massive security presence with over 5,000 troops and police on patrol amid reports of threats of more attack as Police Continue their probe of the indepth that left 17 dead including three suspected terrorists. They have let some of the suspects go but the hunt is on if the rhyme suspect in this case Hayat Boumeddiene the partner and believed she could have been an accomplice in the shooting of a police woman and hostage taking in killing at the kosher supermarket now feared she has fled to syria and could have been out of the country when all of it happened. Amid new information in the last few minutes about him. Police are confirming to fox he could be tied to yet another shooting on the very same day of the slaughter around the Newspaper Office which left 12 dead. Involved in that, were kouachi claiming allegiance to alqaeda and he claimed allegiance to isis leading the French Foreign minister to stay this it is a war against terrorism, against jihadism and against radical islam and against everything that is aimed at breaking fraternity, freedom, and solidarity. That is a message resonating here. Chris . Greg palkot reporting from paris. Nance was held hostage for 54 hours and it only raises new questions of how safe the United States homeland is. We bring in catherine. A new video from isis showing the suspects who took the hostages at kosher supermarket pledging allegiance to the Islamic State. According to a translation the video including clips of coulibali discussing the massacre and fox has learned the f. B. I. Is reviewing a different isis propaganda tape that calls on the followers to target intelligence informations and police and civilians. The credibility is being assessed by United States law enforcement. Republican chairman of the House Homeland Security committee running his own investigation says the paris attack is a departure from recent lots in Canada Australia and the up. Now we are seeing someone, the foreign fighters with have been concern about, this would appear to be a concerted attack. If a rare interview with a german newspaper the head of the against Intelligence Agency Michael Flynn said the terrorists are part of a Larger Network and he believes they were hand selected for the attack. This morning the white house announced a summit in 15 on encountering violence extremism or radical islamic terrorism. Thank you. Now, our exclusive interview with general martin dempsey. I met with the top military officer at the pentagon on friday. We talked while the two hostage stand offs in paris were still going on. We discuss that and the range of other National Security challenges. Welcome to fox news sunday. Lets start with the terrible attack on the newspaper in paris. How much training did the two brothers get in the middle east terror training . Was this attack directed either by al qaeda or by isis . These victims were inspired in some way they were probably not self radicalized on the internet which is another way the attacks sometimes occur. There is a clear indication one of them did, in fact, receive training in yemen. There is a link among them whether it is schools or family relationships. As far as whether it was directed by al qaeda, why think that link has been established. What can you in the military do to prevent attacks like this in the United States . Do we need to step up our effort s against a q. A. P. Or isis and does it contradict president obamas contention we have alqaeda on the run. Fundamentally our capabilities are designed so the country can play an away game against the adversaries so a we try to do across this swath of radical extremism that develops, really, from the the fattah and to nigeriania we try to keep on that whether it is intelligence offering partners or direct action. Do we need to do more . I think so. Absolutely. That is not to imply we not doing enough. If you understand the distinction. We are doing a lot. I think this Organization Called isil are inspiring groups that already exist to rebeen themselves but in rebeening themselves they rebrand themselves into a more radical ideology so that makes it dangerous. This would seem to be to be the definition of asymmetric warfare, you can have a handful of gunmen who can terrorize and lockdown a great city like paris and a country like san france. How frustrating as change of the joint chiefs when you are fighting in such a way . That is the definition of terrorism. It is a group that looks the advantages of those who they are attacking and we are the most powerful military and most powerful nation in the world so as a result of that we tend to be a target for groups and i would not say it is asymmetric but it is a combination of using say symmetric capability whether it is in the media space cyber some of our intelligence and in some cases conventional. How do we do if the war against isis in pushing it back from the territory they took the last area and in destroying them . What i said from the start is a group that embraces such a radical ideology has to maintain momentum in order to succeed, in order to maintain credibility with the very people it is trying to influence. Tactically we have destroyed at thetheir equipment and reversed their territory gains and impacted their leadership and commandandcontrol and logistics. What will cause the get of isil is it will collapse under its own contradictions when the populations in which it tries to ma never realize that ideology is not to their future benefit. I will tell you, we have nine lines of effort counter tents ifing, counter messaging, reconstruction, three military lanes of effort that tend to get all of the attention. I will say the other lines of effort could be more important than the military lanes of effort. Remember has drawn a pretty firm line no United States combat boots on the crown ground in iraq you have refuseed to take that off the table of the the iraqi army talks about taking over mosul. Can though do that without United States combat troops . Here is the reality in iraq it is the government of iraqs strategy enable by us not our strategy. That is an extraordinarily important distinction. We think that will be months i dont know whether self several, it could take longer to marshall the different resources. Do we need United States troops . Wrote know the answer. I have said that. If we get to the point because of the complexity of the object ive precision fires would only be possible with the presence of a failure oner i will page that recommendation but we are months away. Turning to syria. You say we cant defeat sis just with air stranges but with the syrian moderate remember peoples suffering such serious losses in recent backs, is there going to be any moderate Syrian Opposition to train or confront sisson the ground . That is a fair question. That is a question we grapple william the Syrian Opposition is under enormous pressure particularly in the north where i have my greatest concern of the ability to attract and recruit and vet a moderate opposition. Militarily dont you have on confront assad and his attacks on the moderate rebels or you will not have a force to oppose isis . My job is to provide the president and our elected leaders the option they choose to con front assad and that decision has not been taken. We could do it if you were given the order. Of course. We just inned our combat role in afghanistan and on Christmas Day president obama addressed troops in hawaii. He told them this. Afghanistan has a chance to rebuild their own country. We are safer. It will not be a source of terrorist attacks again. How can the president say that so flatly that afghanistan will not be the source of terrorists attacks . You have to ask the president how he can say that. Would you say that . If you ask me let me give you my impression of afghanistan. We have a a credible and cooperative partner if the new executive officer and we have Afghanistan Security forces would have demonstrated will ifs to stand and fight. I personally think will be pockets inside of afghanistan that containing hands from time to time. That is the history of the country. We are in a very if place in afghanistan in terms of giving them a can to do exactly what the president said and we will have to keep an eye on. You would not say the threat of terrorism from afghanistan is on. The chairman of the joint chiefs as the seen director military leader of the nation tens to be rather cautious and careful and he also tends to be paranoid and terrorism can ebb and flow. It may not be there now and it could be there tomorrow. We have to key an eye on this we have to recognized terrorism flows where instability lurks. The military times acts active Service Member how they thought the commander in chief was doing his job and 55 percent say they did not approve of president obamas performance and only 15 percent said yes the lowest number of his presidency. Why do, in your opinion so many Service Member have doubts . Would i tell the troops when i travel the commander in chief supports their efforts and i can tell them with great confidence that he takes this is the issue of whether or not im being micromanaged. It is not justify the troops on the ground but the two last secretaries of defense pa meat panetta and gates criticizes the white house for micromanaging, jumping the chain of command and emphasizing politics over policy. Are they right . Am i being micromanaged . Is that the question . That is one of the questions. If you ask me if i am micromanaged. I better check with the white house before i 18 the question. Look, it is the wrong met trouble in defining the relationship between the military and our elected leaders. I can tell you the metric we should be focused on is access and whether my advice is influencing the decisions. I have frequent access to the commander in chief. I feel no constraints in providing my advise to him and my advice over the past 3 1 2 years has influenced his decisions. Whether someone wants to characterize the desire, the insatiable appetite for information on complex issues as micromanaging, they can have that. For me the metric is access and advise. Last secretary of defense hagel was upset with what he said was white house pressure to release more prisoners from guantanamo. You have to sign off or give a recommendation on every prisoner released. Given that some of the prisoners that are last new are the waste of the worst are the worst of the worst the most dangerous and the number of detainees who are released and return to the battlefield is around 30 percent do you worry this white house is in too much of a hurry to close . I have been in the group that believes it is in our National Interest to close, guantanamo. It creates a psychological scar on our national values. Whether it should or not, it does. I have also said there are some of these detain yeses particularly this kind of conflict over a protracted period that should not be released. We will reach a point where we have dozens of the individuals would have to be detained. We have to figure that out. You would not release them . Of course not. If you cant release them and the United States Congress Says you cannot bring them to this country. Isnt that a fair question for our elected leaders. Doesnt that mean you have to keep gitmo open . That is a policy decision. There will be dozens of these individuals who have to be detain. Our elected officials need to find a way to detain them. In iran you say a diplomatic solution is preferrable but if the talks fall apart can we contain a nuclear alarm or do we have to launch a knack strike and could we take out the Nuclear Program . If the diplomacy fails and they move ahead to acquire Nuclear Weapon we have been clear that will be unacceptable risk to both our own country and, also, to the region and we have military capability if place and we continue to keep them in ready notice to if asked, to eliminate. Delay is the right raise, irans Nuclear Program. What have you learned of cyber lets of the north korean hacking of sony . How vulnerable are we to to a cyber Pearl Harbour . It can be disruptive, disrupt, and destroy. It can destroy hardware and it can disable Critical Infrastructure that could lead to loss of life and those capabilities are out there. In every domain we enjoy a significant military advantage but we have peer competitors in cyber. In other words we dont have an advantage . We dont have an advantage. It is a level laying feed. That makes this chairman very uncomfortable. What do you think of Vladimir Putin . I try not to render my opinion about heads of state. 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It is time now for our sunday group, with karl rove and fox news political analyst juan williams. George, sit back for a moment. What strikes you about this week . About the trained terror cells in the heart of american in the heart of western capitals and their ability to perilize a great difficult like paris . What happened at the magazine was terrible and terrifying. It is terrorism as we normally understood it. It is usually understood to be random violence. This is not random but assassination. They knew where they were going would would be there. Let me interrupt there is live picture from paris with all of the World Leaders on the streets of paris now part of the mass demonstration, more than a Million People ranging from french president hollande to germ chancellor merkel and you can see Muslim Leaders israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and all participating and bear witness to the events of the week. George . This could disrupt an entire city, a modern city, modern Society Depends on flow, cooperation and trust. We have seen how the two car accident can close a four lane superhighway delaying 10,000 vehicles. That is the nature of modern society and that is where randomness comes in destroying trust that weapons things moving. When you talked with general dempsey about cyberterrorism, he said that is the level playing field. They are as capable as we are. We saw what a few clicks after rogue computer did to a bank, destroying a centurys old bank and we know what bombers achieved in world war ii can be achieved by cyber attack. President obama, i think, it is fair to say has always been a bit ambivalent about the war on tore terror. He has launched nor drone strikes and took down Osama Bin Laden but he resists on the other hand calling it a war on terror. He resists calling out islamic jihadist and i have to go back to may of 20 attorney when he made a big speech and talked about taking this country off what he called a perpetual wartime situation. The afghan war is ending. For al qaeda it is a shell of its former self. Groups must be dealt with but in the years to come not every collection of thugs that label themselves alqaeda, will pose a credible threat to the United States. Is there any sense from the white house that the president was premature in either saying this is over or, at least winding down . There was a political incentive for the management to emphasize things such as core al qaeda being decimated and the death of Osama Bin Laden. When he wrote say this, the advisors would say we are still concerned about the other groups. It is striking to hear the clip fr

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