I am chris wallace. With donald trump headed to the nomination is the Republican Party in danger of tearing itself apart . We will ask Rush Limbaugh and mitt romney. We have no idea what donald trump is aextraing crowds, they have no idea why his crowd is loyal . Conservative radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh in a Rare Television interview, a Fox News Sunday exclusive. Then, mitt romney joins the Never Trump Movement and donald trump fires back. Donald trump is a phony, a fraud, the promises are as workless as a degree from Trump University. He was a failed candidate and should have beaten president obama easy. We will talk with the last republican president ial nominee about his unprecedented attack on the frontrunner. Plus, the feds grant immunity to a federal state Department Staff are responsible for setting up Hillary Clintons private email server. We will ask our sunday panel if that is now the biggest threat to Hillary Clintons nomination. All right now. Open fox news. Hello, again, from fox news in washington. We begin with late breaking election results. Republicans want to the polls in four states open saturday. It was a split decision between donald trump and ted cruz. Trump posted a win in louisiana with 41 and took tongue tuck with 36 but cruz posted a decisive win in kansas with 48 and in maine with 46 the overall count has trump with 378
delegates and cruz with 295 and rubio at 123 and kasich with 34. 1,20037 are needed to win the nomination. We will have the d results later. The big story this week is the open warfare inside the Republican Party. In a few minutes we will talk with former governor mitt romney who launch add blistering attack against trump but, first, the king of conservative top radio, Rush Limbaugh joins from his studio in florida. Rush, welcome back to Fox News Sunday. Chris, thank you, great to be here. I want to let everyone know, folks he may have to interrupt me because why speak in 101 minute segments so do not get mad if he has to interrupt me to keep hill on the track he wants to stay on. How is that . A dispensation from the pope. I will do my best. Brevity is the soul of wit. First, mitt romneys speech
where he basically joined the anybody but Trump Movement and you say that is going to back fire with trip supporters in other voters who will see it as the establishment try to tell them what to do with mitt romney listening slain what he is missing. It is all that and more but, it is not unprecedented. His dad did much the same thing against Barry Goldwater with republican stabment guys bang in 1964. The establishment, this is not new, the establishment is not wanting outsiders or conservatives is not anything new. Now, chris, very briefly, there is something remarkable happening here that no one is talking about but skirting the issue. The Republican Party has told us they cannot win with just republican votes. That is why they support am middle east and why they support the democrat on many issues to get his magazines or other minorities. Guess who is doing it . Donald trump is deeing it. Donald trump is put together a coalition whether he knows it or not or whether he intended, he put together a coalition that is exactly what the Republican Party say it needs to win. Though trying to get trump out of race. They not in charge of it. They are not in control. It is the most amazing thing to watch this happen. Governor romney comes along and tries to talk people out of trump and it will not work. Can you not talk his supporters out of supporting him. The only go that can do that is trump himself. We will talk about that. There is a lost commentary and some coming from conservatives who say the Republican Party is if danger of tearing itself apart. We have soon splits, many times before over political philosophy but this is not what is happening this time. This is the establishment, the elite of the party, versus the grass root states. Exactly. It isnt anything new they were this way with Ronald Reagan. Before reagan was elected. They tried to deny reagan in 1976 and in unanimous 80. When i hear governor romney in the speech talk how the Republican Party must stand for legitimate conservative values, they dont. That is why they have the problem they have. They are not conservative. They are run by their go nors. You look at the primaries and they dont like ted cruz, either, and maybe they dislike ted cruz more than trump but cruz and trip are the only guys that have won. The establishment candidate in this race cannot get noticed. The republican primary voters whether close primaries closed primaries or open or voting for anyone but candidates attached to the establishment. You think ted cruz is the real conservative in the race. We will discuss him in a moment but, first, donald trump. How would you feel talking about him bringing in new people how would you feel if he is the republican nominee for president well. I would not, much way when anyone is elected, you daily with what you end up getting. I am not under any allusion i have any ultimate say so i am like anyone else in media i have my opinion and i am not afraid. You do not win everything. You have to take what you get. As far as trump this is a bigger upside. A lot of people disagree with me on this. The people who want someone not of washington, it is serious this time. It is a disconnect between the Republican Party establishment and the democrat establishment. And the people of the country. It is longer, producter, wider. The people in the establishment have been telling us they fix
everything and everything they tray to fix, they much with. Tarp, the recession and the stimulus bill, College Education new is an impediment because of the costs. A College Education is if longer a step up. The American People have worn out their patience being told by socalled boaters, by the. They would rather invest in themselves than to listen to washington who does not have a record of fixing. Rub had a tough night, cruz won two and donald trump won two and donald trump called on rubio to drop out and make it a two man race. You live in florida is marco rubio finished . I dont see where he is getting traction anywhere. What is harming him . When rubio won a Tea Party Darling and a tea participate favorite, what happened . Gang of eight. The perception he want to washington and threw in with the establishment. He cannot recover from that. Has not been able to recover in that. He is seen as the candidate, the Republican Party and the donors, to glom on, jeb bush, look, he stated in december of 2014 he who wins this primary by not winning it, without winning base voters. They made it clear they are embarrassed of base. Marco rubio is attached to the establish president. I dont see his future in this cycle. You have not endorsed a candidate but you talk fairly about ted cruz and the other day you said he is the close of the we will come to Ronald Reagan in our lifetime. I did not know Ronald Reagan as
with as you but i covered him for eight years as president and i have to say i felt that reagan was more inclusive than cruz, more about try to soft were the edges to get more people inside the tent. I dont think that is strategic. You are talking about personalities. I said this on the air the other day senator cruz strategy is there are 4. 5 million or 5 million republicans that did not vote in 2012, because they did not like the nominee, not conservative enough or religious components who knows but senator ted cruz things if he gets the voters and everyone else votes the same way though did in 2012 they can win so he tailored the message for a specific conservative evangelical. It is limited the appeal. He can appeal to everyone the debate you guys did the other night, i dont mean this to be insulting but i am telling you
what i thought he was in a Different League on a different planet. You got the sun stance from cruz. The or guys are dough what they were doing and trump said, yes, i agree with ted. He is in a Different League. He understands conservatism because he is. He is a nice guy he is a likable guy. Not crazy. Not nasty and not a liar, he is down the middle gay. Anyone can trust him. He has plenty of integrity. He is who he is. He is conservative. He does want to get government out of peoples hicks. Looking down line, there is a lot of talk among the stop trump moment, of a brokered convention. What is the chance . If they go in the convention and trump does not have the majority
but he has more delegate than anyone else what happens if establishment keeps him from getting the nomination . You keep a sharp eye because who uns the convention . The establishment. The Republican Party, they run it. I looked at the rhymes the other day, rule 40 determines everything you asked me about, if trump does not get 1,237 the delegates are pledged to him whether they want to vote or not in the first ballot and then it is wide open. This is at least as of 2012 candidates in order to be considered at an open convention have to is gotten a majority of delegates in eight states. They can change that rule any time, when they want, the meeting is remaining up prior to the convention and they can do, i predict if they cannot stop trump in the primary process they will make an effort to stop him at the convention. Governor romney has stated that. If that happens there is a walk up and utter chaos. It will typify exactly what has happened to the Republican Party and the base. Here is the question i often from folks i run and, how does the story end . It ends with everything working out. It will end with a nominee. I think when we get down to the summer and it comes together and the pressure and intensity now is taken care of we will have a nominee and whoever it is, support for the nominee, too, and we will move failure because at the end of all of this, everyone is going to realize it is the Democrat Party that is the most Destructive Force in this country not one of republicans and they have to be stopped in this election if this country is to be restored to its
founding principled and the ideals a majority of americans associate with this country were the democrats have to be stepped. That is going to be what everyone brings everyone back to sobriety. So you think a lot of what they are talking about is overblown . I am rarely wrong, but i could be. I think the rallyization that Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party pose the greatest threat to our future, chip, grandchildren, will bring everyone back to reality. Republican party could be forever reconstituted and changed and that may not be bad, either. This is real. This is not a phase. It is not a tall per tantrum. The average american who mes this country works and thinks Republican Party is actually
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see Hillary Clinton become the president of the United States and the great majority of republicans, mainstream republicans from across the country do not want to sea donald trump as president of the United States. They are concerned they would see a recession and they are concerned we would see a more dangerous world. Here is the criticism i heard from some people and that would include Rush Limbaugh. You certainly have a right, the First Amendment is there to criticize donald trump. Some people say your speech was condescending and undemocratic, in the science that you are saying foes wore voting for donald trump do not know what they are doing. Folks need to understand the background of donald trump. I find from time to time i talk to people about the campaign. They say i did not know donald trump gave a bunch of money to jimmy carter and Hillary Clinton and harry reid and john kerry and they hear that he is an
extraordinary success but they did future know about Trump Airlines and trump mortgages and the vitamin network and did not realize a lot of the small people have been crushed by Donald Trumps rise to become a very wealthy man, successful financially, but there is a guy who has not been a uniform success as they learn about him they say, i want to make sure i look at the other guys in race. All the argument which we heard from rub, the establishment trying to maintain control and push back a guy they could not control . You cannot control ted cruz, for instance, and no one is suggesting you can do that and marco rubio everyone tried to stop marco rubio from going against a sitting republican governor in florida and he did it. And won. Establishment suggests there must be a wizard of oz pulling the strings. They are individuals like
myself. I decided someone had to Say Something. I did not say i would do a speech or talk to anyone i difficulty on my own because i care deeply about the country. I love america and am conditioned. I believe the heart and solve conservatives and republicans recognize the principled that donald trump is talking about having if to do with conservative or keeping america strong. Do you see any connection between your speech and the fact trump who was expected to win all four contests yesterdayened up losing two of them to ted cruz . It was a big night for ted cruz. That is overwhelmingly because people are taking a commerce lack at donald trump and the best look watt the last debate. Ted cruz and marco rubio prosecuted their case effective ly. Donald does not have from answers. They talk about information and release the tapes from New York Times we talk about flexibility
on immigration. Flexibility . That is clearly saying what he said to the New York Times is very different from what he is saying to the American People. He is not the real deal. He is a phony. He talks how he will not be controlled by the money. Do people understand that he is not giving money to his campaign . He is loaning it because he expected to get money back from the big donors . He is running a general election based upon raising money from the very people. He is not the real deal. Ted cruz and marco rubio made that clear. That is why you saw what happened last night. You took down donald trump hard this week but you had a different view of him four years ago when he endorsed you. Had are some things you cannot imagine happening in director life and this is one of them being in Donald Trum