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FOXNEWSW Hannity January 9, 2015

Of paris. Theyre obviously heavily armed the Police Searching for the suspects. And theyve been backed by helicopters with thermal vision. Its been a very dramatic and very dangerous search. And there have been varying reports of how hot or cold theyve been on the trail of the two suspects. But at this point those suspects are still at large. And to some extent parts of the search are tapering overnight as obviously its more difficult to cover such a large territory in the pitch dark. Now, of course the two suspects weve been speaking about said and cherif kouachi, theyve believed to have robbed a gas station this morning in the area where the forest is and thats why the search has been there. When they took off from the gas station and the police went on their trail it is believed thats when they abandoned their vehicle and melted into the woods. The two of them have quite a long history of extremist activity. Cherif did some time in jail for trying to funnel fighters to iraq. And said even u. S. Officials tonight are saying got training in yemen. So questions are being asked in the meantime how these two slipped off the radar to the extent that they may have perpetrated the horrible events yesterday, sean. Amy one question are the police also searching in these areas that we call the nogo zones where nonmuslims are usually not allowed, not even police and Fire Departments usually. Are those the areas that theyre searching right now . Well, right now the area as i mentioned is very rural and its a lot of forest. There are villages around that area, and they have been going housetohouse as well as trapesing through the marshland. They have arrested people in grounds across france but its not clear what connection they have to the suspects. Whats clear is these guys are on the loose and they may be up to Something Else in the coming hours or days. Amy kellogg in paris thank you. Standing by in washington with the latest on the two suspects and their terror ties is foxs own Catherine Herridge. Catherine. Sean, fox news confirming through government sources that both brothers have direct ties to al qaeda. And the 34yearold suspect went to a Training Camp for al qaeda in yemen three years ago. Said kouachi worked on skills ranging from small arms fire to commando style attacks tactics apparently on display during wednesdays shooting. Tonight, u. S. And french investigators are trying to work out whether said had direct contact with the al qaeda leadership in yemen and they were the ones who directed the paris massacre. These images showing french terrorists working with isis in iraq posted in november called on muslims to conduct attacks in france offering direct help. The leading republican on the House Homeland Security Committee Says its not clear to investigators whos behind the paris massacre, but both al qaeda groups are radical islamists taking aim at the west. I think isis is a real threat. And the foreign fighter threat from isis is real. But i would say the more lethal immediate threat still comes from aqap. An intelligence source confirms to fox news that 23 minutes after the attack in paris before anyone really understood what was going on, two tweets were sent from an account linked to al qaeda in yemen. The tweets feature images of the shooting with photos of the al qaeda groups past leadership including americans an war a la ki. Coming from the same propaganda magazine that called for the execution of Charlie Hebdos editor in march of 2013. Also tonight a rare and candid warning from the head of britains Intelligence Service known as mi5. Direct general Andrew Parker warning al qaeda in syria is planning mass casualty attacks on british soil including transit systems or iconic landmarks like big ben. Parker did not link this new credible threat information to the massacre in paris sean. All right, Catherine Herridge in washington tonight. Catherine, as always thank you. And yesterdays attack on the offices of Charlie Hebdo was not the first. The satirical newspaper magazine has been threatened for many years. Ainsley is at the big board with background. Charlie hebdo has poked fun at religion government and Authority Figures since it was created back in 1970. But the outrage from muslims began in 2006 when the paper ri printed pictures from the prophet muhammad. In november 2011 headquarters were firebombed after its cover featured another cartoon of muhammad. The building was since then protected by riot police. And the french government did ask the paper to stop publishing images that offended muslims, but they went ahead with them anyway. In 2012 after again printing cartoons of muhammad the paper was criticized by thenwhite house spokesperson jay carney. We are aware that a french magazine published cartoons featuring a figure resembling the prophet muhammad. And obviously we have questions about the judgment of publishing Something Like this. We dont question the right of Something Like this to be published. We just question the judgment behind the decision to publish it. The editor, Stephan Stephan charbonnier was killed in yesterdays attacks. In 2012 he told reporters this, i am not scared of reprisals. I dont have kids or a wife. Ive got no car, no credit. It perhaps sounds a bit pompous but id prefer to die standing than living on my knees. Just this week they ran a cartoon taunting extremists that were it was titled still no attacks in france. And minutes before the attack a tweet mocking isis leader abu bakra al baghdadi. The paper is going and publishing next weeks edition. The columnist for the paper was not there at the time of the attack but did tell French Television this, its very hard. We are all suffering with grief, with fear but we will do it anyway because stupidity will not win. Sean, that paper usually prints 60,000 copies a week but will print 1 million copies next week with other Media Companies helping to cover those costs. Ainsley amazing courage they showed because they kept doing it in spite of what happened in the past. Thank you for that history. Appreciate it. Also with reaction joining us now fox news terrorism analyst dr. Walid phares. Let me put up on the screen exactly the numbers that were looking at in europe. Theres been a lot of immigration there. The number of muslims, for example, living in europe in 2010, well there you have the number in france 4. 7. But lets go to the number living in europe total, which is 44. 1 million 6 of the population. And if you look at the projected number by 2030 58. 2 million. Robert spencer youre an expert. You study this. When you look at the numbers of people, its estimated about 10 of the population of france, the nogo neighborhoods how they have separated themselves theyre not assimilating, even separate sharia courts. Do you believe this contributed to what happened yesterday . Oh, absolutely, sean. Theres no doubt about it whatsoever. Because in those enclaves and remember theres 751 of them all over france. And thats not just rumor or conjecture, thats based on a french government website that lists them all. These 751 nogo areas are essentially ruled by sharia law. They have no regard for french law. They do not teach french law. They infiltrate sharia. Someone who blasphemy muhammad they grew up in these areas and they learned that blas fe mers must be put to death. Thats what they were acting upon when they went into the Charlie Hebdo offices. I want you to be very clear on this. Washington times had a great piece describing it as growing islamist ministates. Essentially you have minicountries within a country. Why would the french have allowed that to happen . Absolutely. Well see, islamic law is political system as well as a religious one. And it has a complete system for the governance of society and the political or social order. And so the immigrants, the french have been bringing in as well as other european states and the uk many of them have come believing that because the quran says muslims are the best of people and that nonmuslims are the most vial of created beings that the french government and society has no value and has to be placed ultimately within sharia, meantime muslims set up enclaves where sharia will rule and law of the land will be disregarded. This is a recipe for disaster. With the growing population, the immigrant population growing, theres going to be a clash inevitably between them and the nonmuslim. Because theyre contrary values. Theyre conflicting values. Steve, from an immigration standpoint standpoint, which is where youre coming from. So youre talking about 44. 1 million muslims there right now. An estimated 58 million muslims they expect by 2030. Then the question has to arise, they dont want to assimilate, they want separate neighborhoods, they want separate court systems, dont want help from the police or Fire Departments, but yet they get to vote. Why would these countries in europe then allow them to come to their countries . Because i suspect they want to change them and have values that conflict with western values. No, its a very important question. Immigration is often thought of about dollars and cents taxes paid labor market. But there are these other profound and important questions. Cultural questions or questions about National Security. And unfortunately we dont really ask those questions here. Remember, the Muslim Population in the United States is smaller but growing rapidly. About 3 million about 100,000 new muslim immigrants enter the United States each year. And we have no discussion about any of the possible National Security implications, a kind of Political Correctness rules here. And unfortunately there as well. Now, there are things we could do to probably better assimilate people, but the bottom line is immigration is a discretionary policy. We can decide who to let in or not. And we dont even walid were losing him. Steve, sorry about that. Walid, let me bring you in here. In spite of all the accommodations the french have made, british have made, belgian have made, values contrary to western values, the antithesis of these values, raises a question about the United States, do we have to examine the values of people and ascertain those values before they come here . First of all, sean, in europe and of course in north america and in australia, when these communities migrate, they migrate as communities. And within the communities you have all sorts of friends. So when those are established its like any ethnic enclave here in the United States or canada. Problem, who is mobilizing, who is indoctrinating, who is forcing or pushing these enclaves to refuse law, order to become a nogo zone . I would call for a better understanding of the networks who are in control. Its not just ministates. Theres a regime inside. The muslim brotherhood, the proi think we should zoom on these forces. Appreciate your expertise. You can see on the screen those were the first pictures from Charlie Hebdo where you can see the blood inside of the Office Building where this carnage and evil took place. We have a busy news night tonight. How some in the western media are giving radical muslims a pass. Mark steyn is here to respond to that tonight with his analysis. Plus tonight here on hannity. Islam does not mean peace it means submission. Okay, so you want worldwide submission. We can live peacefully together. Highlights from my Heated Exchange with radical london imam Anjem Chaudhry as this busy news night continues. Stay with us. Welcome back to hannity. Liberals in the western media appear to be more worried about offending muslims than defending innocents gunned down in paris. France has a very serious problem with islamophobia. There are a lot of frenchmuslim who is feel alienated from the society theyre in. Its important for French Society to be demonstrating to everyone who lives there that they can be accepted in society. They dont need to wage war against society to have their voices heard. Unfortunately he was not alone. One opinion writer at New York Times wrote lets denounce terrorism and oppressionism and misojny in the islamic world, and everywhere else, but lets be careful mark steyn is back with us. Mark, i was watching you last night on megyn kellys show. And you made a very strong case how media has coward in the face of radical islamists. Explain. Yes. Thats true, sean. I mean, i think these men at Charlie Hebdo bore a very lonely burden in part because they were braver than everybody else. The media congratulates itself on its bravery excessively. And one thing its done in the 24 hours since its happened has been to maneuver islam into the victim seat again. Islam always wants to play the victim role. There are 12 dead french men and actually another french lady, a Police Officer today killed by somebody of a certain particular persuasion. Couple of weeks ago it was two dead australians. A couple weeks before that it was a dead soldier up in quebec. And another dead soldier up in ottawa. Theyre the victims. And the perpetrators were muslim. And im sure that does make moderate muslims who just want to get up in the morning and go to work and come back and pay for food for their family and whatever, im sure that does cause them problems. But theres something in grotesque bad taste apart from anything else in the way they need to maneuver themselves into the victim role when the victims are still on the floor bleeding like these 12 frenchmen were and the two australians in the sydney coffee shop and the two brave soldiers in canada. This at the very least is in appalling bad taste that nbc and New York Times islam to do this every time. Its also dap, cnn, other news networks, et setcetera. Would it almost be better for everybody in the media to unite as a sign of solidarity as people are holding up pens in france and say were all going to publish it, were all going to tell the story so that people understand what it is that causes you to murder. Yes, i think the pen gesture you mentioned is pathetic, really. I would be more impressed if people were to hold up copies of the Charlie Hebdo covers, that those cartoonists died for. They knew the risk they were taking. Ive spent far too much since i got dragged through court in canada for writing about this issue, ive spent far too much time with vulnerable beleaguered cartoonists, especially in europe, not just french cartoonists but a dutch cartoonist, a swedish artist who had his home firebombed, a norwegian comedian whose parents restaurant was firebombed. And we understand now that these people face a real threat because 12 of them are dead. And the best thing that could have happened is that all these journalists, the big shot editors who all know each other in new york and london and paris and berlin and all over the planet had all said tomorrow morning were going to put the cartoons these guys died for on the front page. Because you cant claim to defend free speech and freedom of expression when you let these guys be murdered and then you accept the rules set by the murderers murderers, which is what the New York Times and cnn and all the rest are doing. I want to ask you about the left. They say they have a monopoly of compassion for minority rights, gay and lesbian rights. Look at what happens if you are gay and lesbian in certain countries, you get murdered. Conservatives have been the most outspoken against radical islam. And the left for the most part has been silence. One exception on jimmy kimmel last night was bill maher of all people. And i give him credit for even challenging the left. Why is there so much silence on the left . Yeah i think bill maher is absolutely the exception, sean. And interestingly enough the fellows all in Charlie Hebdo, all basically men of the left. The people i mentioned a couple minutes earlier the other cartoonists in europe, theyre all basically all time secular lefties who think you have the right to make the same jokes about muslims as jews and christians and everybody else. And the american left is not there for them. And it was to me pitiful to listen to the sort of antiseptic antiseptic statement that jon stewart issued last night. If jon stewart and Stephen Colbert theyre doing what real satirists do which is offending you and challenging you over the serious questions of the day. Theyre not just doing lame old tired antibush jokes a quarter century after hes left office. And these guys learned, these euro lefties learned that when youre really up against it when people are trying to kill you, that apart from bill maher and one or two other men of principle, i would rate richard dawkins, the famous atheist who nevertheless acknowledged yesterday that while he hates all religions, he actually has a bigger problem with islam than any of the other ones for the obvious that theyre trying to kill him and the other ones arent, apart from bill maher and richard dawkins, there were actually very few principled lefties out there speaking up for these poor beleaguered guys in europe. I got to tell you, mark, stephane charbonnier, the editor, said id rather die standing than on my knees. Im not sure you were on last night, im not sure if you had chance to see any of the interview with radical imam. Oh, yes. Were going to get back to part of it in the next segment. I want to ask you for this because i get criticized for having him on. And i understand it. But one of the things he said i was asking him okay, is this a religion of peace, do you have any tolerance for other religions and his

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