For starters, i think you ought to look to someone whos had executive experience. Hell assemble a great team of people to whom hell listen. Hell create a culture in which they can deliver not just the good news, but the bad. Hell listen carefully to their advice and then hes got the backbone necessary to tough decisions on behalf of the American People. And joining us now frr an exclusive interview, 2016 republican president ial candidate, former Florida Governor jeb bush and the 43rd of the president of the United States, george w. Bush. Good to see you, governor. How are you . Hi, sean. Mr. President , when are you . I thought you gave this up for lent. Brother asked. I love him dearly and know he will be a great president. I have interviewed you post leaving office a number of times. You have wanted this run for a long time. Correct. Yeah. Tell us why. I love america. We face enormous problems. He can deal with them. Handle them. Im not an expert in a lot of things but im pretty knowledgeable about what it takes to be president. After eight years. Since i were one. Hes got what it takes. He has character, backbone, philosophy, vision. He can deal with crises. Hed make a really good president. You have been through this yourself. South carolina was particularly tough in 2000. Really i dont know. You know, not that tough . I mean, we won. Wasnt that tough. Yeah. I found New Hampshire a little tougher in 2000. Is that right . I lost. It is a grind. When you watch, i know how close you are to your brother and watch the attacks and back and forth, get you mad or frustrated . No. I get puzzled sometimes. The campaigns need to be tough because the job is tough. We want to see who has the ability to endure. If you wilt on the campaign trail, youll wilt in the oval office. I thought it was a fierce debate on saturday night. How do you feel about it . I felt great about it. I got to talk about National Security issues and show i had a steady hand and the front running candidate lost it, lost his temper. Didnt go his way. He just kind of lost it. When you are president of the United States based on what i see you cant be upset at the drop of a hat. You have to have a steadiness and assuredness so the world knows the United States will be there the youre friends and enemies cant see someone unhinged. Am i fair in my assessment i thought youve got enbetter in every debate. Did you start off slower than you wanted . Would you like a redo . I have gotten better at what george was the best. Discipline. Message discipline. Im not half as good as he is. He stayed on message and over time the effect allowed him to be a president , two times, which is pretty hard to do. So im getting better, sure. Im striving to get better. We are making good progress. You used the name jeb. Yeah. You have had dad as president , a brother as president. Ive asked you this before. Does the last name hurt inasmuch as why are you laughing . Because i used w. Jeb has been my the slogan since 1994. Yeah. I had three races for governor, largest swing state in the country and its just part of my brand. Its not that im disowning my family. This is hard for the rest of the world to see. Look. Im proud of george, proud of my dad. Everybody loves my mom. Im proud to be a bush. But people want the know where you stand, whats your record, what are your ideas to help people . It is about them, not our family. You know . Thats the issue is most families are really struggling and a lot of people are scared about the future seeing the unraveling of the world and see the lack of u. S. Leadership and the people running not giving them much assurance other than a few of us. These really are tough times, economically, you know, look at the number of americans out of work, poverty, Home Ownership down, food stamps and then you have a world with isis, al qaeda. These are tough times. Exactly. Very much so. You know, what troubles me is that the lessons of 9 11 are being forgotten by a lot of people. That is the human condition elsewhere matters to our National Security. There is i tell people that i remember studying pearl harbor and i wanted to, you know, mainly try to memorize the dates so i didnt get a b on the quiz but it affected our dads life to the point where an my dad. Your dad. Same on 9 11. And if we let down our guard, against this group of thugs, theyll hurt us again. The good news is jeb wont let down his guard. You think of the San Bernardino killings of people, she was radicalized. No one in the state department thought it was they thought it was a violation of Civil Liberties to check her facebook page. Unbelievable. Where she advanced jihad before she got her visa. We have to be vigilant. If in the post 9 11 era if we allow just kind of to move away from protecting the homeland, we will have more of these things. Whats interesting about the election cycle is Foreign Policy is a Central Campaign issue. It wasnt in 2000, for example. And so i hope the voters take a look and see who has the clearest eyed view of the world and a plan to deal with those who plan to do us harm. Ive looked at jebs plan. I know how solid it is. The other thing thats needed in the white house and jeb understands this is you set a goal. Defeat isis. And then you call upon the people who know how to help you achieve that goal. The military and the intelligence community. And theyll and jeb will inspect them. Thats what you want. Understand how to make decisions and somebody who knows who can help you achieve goals. Its interesting, in this campaign were talking about National Security, how almost relitigating post 9 11 and the iraq war is a big issue, became a big issue on saturday night. You know, i have a tape of bill clinton where he admits in a speech he was offered bin laden on a silver plat enand gives an answer i couldnt justify, no legal justification to take him even though i knew he was a threat and look at cities you were fighting for and won, mosul, romady, tikrit and yet because through the prism of politics we start wars, we dont finish them and then lost nearly 5,000 people. Thats the lesson of iraq the fortitude and the courage of the men and women in uniform that fought so valiantly, led by a commander in chief that did something that was not politically popular but was the right thing to do. When he started, there wasnt much support in congress. But because of lindsay graham, john mccain and many others it built and the surge was successful len and to squander thats the history lesson. You have the win, you got to make sure theres security at the end. And by abandoning george told me he would make have tell conferences with malaki once a week. Isnt that right . Yeah, absolutely. That was being all in. Right . Making sure that malaki didnt wander off and resort back to all of the sectarian violence and, you know, dividing up of iraq. The minute he left and petraeus and crocker left, as well, the diplomatic and military elements that created the stability went away. Thats the lesson. Same in libya and other places. You have to be all in. The other lesson is isis can be defeated. Explain that. Well, thiss what the surge i mean, i know they call themselves al qaeda. They murder the innocent. Terrorize the tribes. They are thugs. Public executions. Evil in our time. It is evil in our time. And yet we defeated them. And we defeated them by giving hope to people on the ground. Most people dont want to live under the clutches of these thugs and given a chance they will rise up an secure their free doms. You were talking about world war ii earlier. My dad like yours fought and four years in the pacific. There was an alliance. This came up and this to me is interesting. You worked for vladimir putin. Yeah. Heres in the cold war we have the soviet union and United States standing side by side to defeat naziism and, you know, enemy of my enemy is my friend, right . You dont think its a good idea, you dont trust putin, governor, to no. Look. To defeat isis, not a good idea. You dont think he does . Theres no evidence of it. 95 of his air power is spent to attack the troops were supporting. Thats true. Pretty clear. Did point out i think mr. Trumps either naivety or lack of interest. Putin said something nice about him and i noticed if you Say Something nice about donald trump he likes it. If you challenge him, he doesnt. So i think part of this is youve enjoyed the debates with mr. Trump, havent you . I enjoy taking him on because i love my country and i love the republican party. I love the conservative cause. And hes hijacking it and so i feel obliged. I dont know what the political consequences of this are. Maybe a reason no one else is doing it. I tried to ask your brother the questions, the president , i wont waste a question on it. You have asked him, right . Hell tell you privately how he feels about president obama, right . He wont tell me. Talk about message discipline. Yeah. Thats really highest form of it, right many. Tell people why and the reason why you respect the office. I do. I think the office is more important than the occupant. And pretty profound. You stuck to it over seven years. I dont have that discipline. I unload every day. What did you wear when you went into the oval Office Every Day . Coat and tie. Coat and tie. What was the rug . Tell the rug story. It was a laura your wife designed it. Lesson one of leadership, to listen to people who can give you good advice. Thats what jeb will do as president. I didnt know much about rugs. She did. And designed a rug that looked very optimistic. And so its really important for the voters to is to determine whos got an optimistic outlook, see a Better Future and thats one of the things i loved about jebs governorship in florida. He inspired people because of his optimism and will do the same thing as president. Your records very conservative. First state that brought school vouchers, an aaa rating, a deficit to a huge surplus, created 1. 5 million jobs. And what do you think because you had a brother and father as president , what does that add to you if you get that office . I have had a front row seat seeing historien fold. I have seen the recognition that its never perfect. You dont control everything. In fact, i would say the biggest lesson of watching my dad and george is that the big challenge is unforeseen. We dont know what it will be. 9 11. Yeah. There was no Campaign Issue about 9 11 prior to it. Nope. September 10th i was with him in sarasota. We were talking about he had an interesting discussion with tram hudson my friend about a book they were reading about the civil war. Yeah. I mean, the world changed and thats whats going to happen. We could have a pandemic, a Natural Disaster or attack on our country. Almost assured. Think about the reality or possibility is scary. Yeah. So the question is who do you want sitting behind the big desk when that happens . Thats my case is that i have a steady hand and i will lead the country through tumultuous events. Thats what i believe i can do because i learned to do it as governor of the state of florida. I know you can do it. All right. I think you have one vote right there. Well take a break. More of our exclusive interview with Florida Governor and president george w. Bush. Also checking in with senator ted cruz from every Auto Insurance policy has a number. But not every Insurance Company understands the life behind it. 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The judge said that medical history and the lack of any signs of foul play meant the justice likely died of natural causes. Scalia was found dead in his room at a texas resort ranch saturday. He was 79. Pope francis resumes his fiveday tour of mexico tuesday morning. And the state of michoacan. On monday, the pope visited the impoverished state where he denounced the exploitation and exclusion of the nations indigenous people. Thats the news. Im kelly wright. When the american president speaks, the world listens. You can trust jeb bush to be measured and thoughtful on the world stage. Our enemies and allies will know that when president jeb bush speaks, he will follow through on his words. And welcome back. We continue with 2016 republican president ial candidate former Florida Governor, his brother president george w. Bush. You like being back out here . Fun for you . Yeah. I believe in the cause. It is not going to be a hbt. Is that right . Onetime deal. Im a sensitive artist now. And these paintings will be worth something. I saw the one of dana perinos puppy jasper. Jasper liked it. I think dana liked it too. How about your brother . Not yet. Waiting for him to get out of the primitive period. Is that right . All the stages of artistry . Thats cold. We lost Justice Scalia. Yeah. I think i have learned so much listening to argument s before the Supreme Court from him. He was so sharp, intellectually solid. A conservative. Theres now a big debate, Mitch Mcconnell said wait until the next president. The last 80 years we have not appointed a Supreme Court justice in an Election Year. Your snaugt. I this thats right. The senate has every right to either have an up or down vote or to defer. I dont think theres any problem with doing that. This should be an Election Year issue. It really should because if you go 54 the other way, you could see the Second Amendment being wiped out off the face of the earth. You could see religious freedom imperilled. Theres a lot at stake here. I think all the candidates left and right to use this as a basis to outline the judicial philosophy. To create a mandate for the next appointments. Yeah. You got the opportunity to appoint a couple of Supreme Court justices. I did. And you knew Justice Scalia well. I did know him, liked him. He was a funny man. Yeah. Listen, its a big deal to put somebody on the bench for alife jeb because appointed people to a bench before in florida and got a record that people can look at. You have to be all in on making that selection. I think the next pick has to be someone with a proven record so as to know they werent a candidate, they had a proven record that you could look back to create consistency. We will have a divided court for a while and important to pick someone who has been in the judiciary and then a white because this will be a massive fight. A big fight. I agree with you. Since robert bork and then clarence thomas. Chuck schumer was clear that you would not be able to appoint another Supreme Court justice. Now hes outraged. This is horrible. As close of a political question to ask you. I didnt appoint one after 2007. Yes. Thats schumerism. Is that a schumerism . Definitely. The way washington is. Yeah. In a way. You know . A lot of them are for an issue at one point and then getting the upper hand they, you know, somebody elses turn. Its too bad. Scalia was a lover of liberty and a protection, you know, of us from government. And the idea would be to pick someone like this. You know, we hear so much this year about i have used the term a lot and im guilty as anybody else. Insurgency candidacies and cabinet. I interviewed you and i read 400 pages on you. I read your whole record, time as governor in florida and said to you on stage, thats a conservative record. You have pretty much, its because of two issues, immigration and common core. People think youre the establishment lane. Well, im in the establishment lane because im the brother of a president and the son of a president. And i embrace that because thats something im proud of. You have a conservative record. Its disruption, challenging the status quo on behalf of people and it worked. We led the nation in job growth 7 out of 8 years. Income grew at 4. 4 . Government grew after half of that. They called me veto corlioni. We had more opportunities. These were disrupt. You can fire someone for cause in the state government. These were pretty difficult things to accomplish. The status quo in tallahassee did any other state create a million and a half i dont knows in that period . No. Texas california and texas were behind us but george had already left. Texas has it going, a Good Business climate and South Carolina for that matter. Theres a you can see the states that lower taxes, focus on regulatory reform. If theres a problem, haf governor that is try to fix it. We need that in washington. You can take the illinois path and governor rounder doing the best. Thats an entrenched status quo to be disrupted or take the florida how well the republican governors are done. And i think the frustration of Washington Republicans is different than states like wisconsin and michigan and absolutely. And even in florida and elsewhere. Did you count on your brother when you were president . Yeah