They made it up. If people really exist that would have said that, theyre low lives and liars. I would be willing to swear on anything that i never said that about our fallen heros. In my opinion, this is one of those stories, a rabid created and manufactured by the left. Theres no sources, no evidence, no tames. And in my tapes. In my experience, runs contrary to what people who know President Trump know about his disposition, his love for vets. The way that trump is quoted, the things that he has said, its not only unamerican, its not only completely bereft of patriotism but at what point is he not fit to lead . Howie joining us now to analyze the coverage, molly hemingway, Senior Editor at the federalist and fox news contributor, Kristin Soltis anderson, a Washington Examiner columnist and leslie marshall, radio host and fox news contributor. Molly, Jeffrey Goldberg claims four unnamed sources on reporting on thee the french cemetery. I know you have a problem with Anonymous Sources. As i learned during my years of reporting, sources are sometimes the only way to get a story. Right. All reporters use Anonymous Sources. You dont want to overuse on on uanAnonymous Sources. The Trump Administration has seen so many of these Information Operations where current or former government officials get reporters to allow them to be anonymous, to spread narratives that turn out you find out days, weeks, months, sometimes years later, that the narrative they spread was false. Whats important for reporters to do here if they want to participate in information on of presentations which i would caution them to be thinking about whether thats a good idea, make sure you include all of the on the record reputations from government officials, were up to 10 of or 12 now from firsthand accounts in many cases, the evidence including government documents that dispute the story and the years of photographic evidence of how Donald Trumps acts around disabled vets, how he makes trips to walter reed, house he is shown hugging and kissing on them, make sure you include all the information if you want to take part in the information on of presentation thats going on. Howie fair points. White house did initially decline to comment to the atlantic. Kristin, also from the magazine on a visit with john kelly to the arlington grave where his son is buried, trump reports to have said i dont get it, what was in it for them. Kelly declined to comment. Based on my understanding of journalism, this was clearly run by him, a friend of kellys, retired four star general was quoted in the piece, president has attacked john kelly as having been exhausted and dysfunctional as white house chief of staff. Its created a kind of guessing game. The worry about Anonymous Sources is without knowing the name of the folks who are claiming that the statement was made, its hard to assess their credibility. So while on the one hand you can point to things President Trump has done publicly to either confirm or deny your suspicions about this, you can say well on the one hand he does lots of things for vets, on the other hand look at what he said about john mccain, you can build a case either way. In the case of an anonymous source, without knowing who was making the claim, how close they were to the potential situation, were they really there and overheard it, is it hard for the average voter to know how much credit they should give to this. Howie also a fair observation. Now, jeffrey gold bette goldbere many defense stories over the year. Jennifer griffin confirmed key elements of the story based on her sources, as has the Washington Post. Leslie, this isnt a routine white house denial. You have several top aides that were there in france including Sarah Huckabee sandersing saying this never happened, john bolton saying he never heard it. I think maybe they werent standing with him when he said it. There are two things here many Jennifer Griffin is an outstanding journalist and to me youve got to look at not only if theres an anonymous source but who was reporting that source. Jennifer griffin of our own network has confirmed this, corroborated this, Washington Post, New York Times. But in addition, howie, you have you to look at a pattern of behavior and the president , i mean, with the mocking of the disabled journalist, the president saying negative things about a gold star family, a grieving mother, saying to a mother of fallen soldier in niger that he knew what he signed up for, the things he said about john mccain and also his level of defense about it. You know, my mom used to say if you accuse somebody of something and they defend themselves gone and again and again, theyre probably guilty because if youre not, it doesnt bother you. To me, the pattern of behavior speaks to the journalists claims. Howie i just want to say, President Trump has called for Jennifer Griffin to be fired. This is one of the fairest, most conscientious reporters on the planet, a former war correspondent, has done this throughout various administrations. She wasnt offering opinion. She was doing her job. Its fine for the president to attack the story. He needs to try to cancel journalists based on reporting he doesnt like. Heres what Jennifer Griffin told neil cavuto. She said deep throat was an unnamed source. Doesnt make what he said untrue. My sources are unimpeachable. Why havent they come forward . She says you can see how people get destroyed when they come crosswise with the president. Your thoughts. Jeffrey goldberg said the reason he didnt reveal his sources, its because he didnt want to receive mean tweets. I want to be clear about what is confirmed when someone talks to Anonymous Sources. Whats confirmed is that Anonymous Sources are talking. It doesnt confirm the underlying claim. We know the russia collusion hoax was spread through numerous government officials making claims based on what reporters felt was credible. It turned out it was all false. We have to be careful. You can talk to people who you can grant them a anonimity if yu want. The story hasnt been confirmed, just the fact that Anonymous Sources are spreading the story have been confirmed. Theres a big difference between those two things. Howie in the atlantic some of this confirmed by other news organizations, some comments by the president attributed to john mccain. Donald trump said, you know, mccain he likes people who werent captured, referring to his pow status. Again, this speaks to the pattern of behavior. This is not quite frankly, its very sad that these remarks arent shocking coming from the president. The president has a pattern of behavior of not telling the truth. As i think voters look at the pattern of behavior of this individual with regard to truthfulness and with regard to these types of comments about these individuals, look, there are people that probably believe what he said that wont vote for him anyway, hes person any the military. The military are typically prorepublican and the president is the incumbent republican candidate. I dont but i do think, and i heard from on my radio show some vets that werent shocked but it was just rubbing salt in an old wound that reminded them with the election coming up of who their commander in chief is. Howie let me tell you, were getting short on time. The president this morning continuing his assault, calling Jeffrey Goldberg a con man and saying people should write to the atlantics steve jobs widow to discuss their dissatisfaction. The magazine was for impeachment early on. It comes out two months before the election. Does that make people question it . Well, i think the timing of this of course being right before the election, it certainly indicates that the sources would quite like to move Voter Sentiment with these statements. I dont know that the timing necessarily to me affects the credibility of the story one way or the other. I do wish we had some names on the record saying, yes, i heard this. That would make it much easier to assess whether its credible or not. Howie that would make it much easier to you assess. I want to get to the question of urban violence, President Trump and joe biden visited kenosha wisconsin. Lets roll it. The rioters and joe biden have a side, theyre both on the side of the radical left. Joe biden has given more aid and comfort to the vandals. Rioting is not protesting. Looting is not protesting. Setting fires is not protesting. Ask yourself, do i look like a radical socialist with a soft spot for rioters . Really . Howie molly, biden says trump is fanning the flames and when the president defends his supporters in portland for shooting paint ball and pepper spray at liberal protesters, it makes many in the media say, see, hes egging his side on. The media has struggled with how to cover the violent riots. As soon as they found they were hurting the Democratic Partys electoral chances, they began begging joe biden to finally say something, they began claiming the riots were happening but they were trumps fault. The media shouldnt care about the fact that the riots are hurting the Democratic Party and just report that the riots are happening. When you see the media claim these are mostly peaceful protests, the average person thinks they must have been particularly violent last night. Howie kristin, the president got skeptical coverage of his trip to kenosha. He met with Law Enforcement officials. Joe biden got much more sympathetic coverage, in my view. He met with the family of jacob blake who was shot in the back seven times during an you attemd arrest. The media say that trumps playing to his base. When biden talks mostly about Racial Injustice, isnt he playing to his base as well . I wouldnt say when youre talking about the issue of Racial Injustice that they play to the base. Fighting Racial Injustice is something thats important to voters of all political stripes. We would all like to see less Racial Injustice in this country. I push back a little bit on that one. I think certainly biden is getting much more favorable coverage throughout the course of this week, the last month, the last year. The bar has been very much lowered for joe biden. On an issue like this where you begin to actually see a lot of voters who previously said im sympathetic to the matter, i believe we want to see Racial Injustice addressed in the country and are seeing whats happening in portland which is divorced from any sense of trying to pursue Racial Injustice, just people who want to see the world burn, thats where you see voters go. Howie ive got 20 seconds. When the president defends the 17yearold man who is charged with homicide in the Fatal Shooting of two people in portland, says he may have been acting in selfdefense, people say, well, he wont criticize his side. Well, he doesnt. I mean, look, allegedly this young man was a trump supporter, the president likes people that support him and like him and when they do, he normally speaks favorable of them. Look, whether a president is a democrat or republican, in my opinion, a president should stay out of these things. You can make a comment as the leader of this nation but certainly you need to have due process, everyone is constitutionally allowed that right. Youre innocent until proven guilty. You need to let the law play out in the court with the people and not the president s opinion. Howie all right. Ahead, the trump Campaigns Communications chief will be here. When we come back the media pouncing on controversial trump comments in his interview with laura ingram. Alright, everyone, we made it. My job is to help new homeowners who have turned into their parents. Im having a big lunch and then just a snack for dinner. So were using a speakerphone in the store. Is that a good idea . One of the ways i do that is to get them out of the home. Youre looking for a grout brush, this is garth, did he ask for your help . No, no. No. We all see it. We all see it. He has blue hair. Okay. Blue. Progressive cant protect you from becoming your parents, but we can protect your home and auto when you bundle with us. Keep it coming. You dont know him. Howie in an interview you with foxs laura ingram, President Trump was talking about jay shortness of breath blake being not the back seven times in kenosha during an attempted arrest and focused on the pressure faced by that Police Officer and cops in general during such confrontations. He might have been going for a weapon. Theres a whole big thing there. But they choke, just like in a golf tournament, they miss a threefoot putt. Youre not comparing it to golf. Im saying people choke. People panic. People choke. And people are bad people. Theres both. You have some bad people and they choke. Choking is an interesting choice of words, horrifying when he compares it to missing a golf putt. He was comparing it to golf and sanitizing what looks like attempted murder by a Police Officer on video to being an imperfect judgment made in a tense moment. Howie molly, i understand that the president was making a broader point about police under pressure. Wasnt the golf analogy, well, a terrible one . Sure, i would not use a sports analogy to describe the killing of by Police Officers of individuals. Its true that the media need to put Police Violence in context. I dont think weve seen that in the last we definitely havent seen that in the last several months. Theres hundreds of millions of Police Interactions each year, very few of them lead to violence, particularly against unarmed people. The media have not shown that story. Theyve not accurately described that story. They havent talked about how Police Shootings are down in major cities by record amounts. This is something thats very important to tell and so that the failures by certain a few certain individuals are put in accurate context because i think if you ask the American Public because of the Media Coverage they have the idea that Police Interactions are a hell scape and thats an accurate telling of events. Howie most Police Officers are good Police Officers. We should remember that. We could find one other mention of this golf analogy on fox. Cnn and msnbc replayed it time and again. Is it newsworthy. I dont necessarily know that it is newsworthy of being played time and time again. Its certainly not a good analogy. You can hear in the interview, laura ingram is trying to save the president from himself. He does double down on it. Every time the president says something that was indelicate, if i blew up the media headlines for weeks, which is sometimes does, its a distraction away from the critical stories that matter most to voters. What do you think voters care about more, this president used a bad metaphor about golf in a serious situation or the fact that we still have this pandemic and riots in the streets and people that are protesting for very justifyable reasons. We have a lot of big issues facing the country. Im not sure that this he deserves wall to wall coverage. Howie leslie, arent the pundits, many of them, refusing to acknowledge that the broader point by the president of the United States, which is Police Officers put their lives on the line every day, they sometimes are in lifethreatening situations. They have to make split second decisions, sometimes those decisions turn out to be wrong. Well, howie, we all know if it bleeds it leads, sadly. Thats pretty much since adam and eve with journalism. Quite frankly, its not as attractive, it doesnt have as many people buy newspapers or listen to radio programs, pod of casts or watch a Television Newscast if they dont sometimes have that, sadly. But if the president had to put it in these terms, he could have brought the focus to what you just said and quite frankly in the eloquent manner in which you just said it. When you have somebody who is going to be a allegedly a paraplegic at this point whose children will have emotional issues having watched their father being shot and people that have buried their children or of loved ones at the hands of this, it does show a lack of sensitivity and i do think that resonates with a certain segment of of the voting population. Howie all right. Just trying to get to the broader point. Let me play one more sound bite from the laura interview, weve got about 20 seconds each for reaction from all of you. Roll it. I dont even like to mention biden. Hes not controlling anything. Who do you think is pulling bidens strings . Is it former obama officials. People youve never heard of. People that are in the dark shadows. People that are what does that mean . That sounds like conspiracy theory. Dark shadows, what is that . People that you havent heard of. Howie people in dark shadows controlling joe biden . This is a major theme of the Trump Camp