Country. Howie as rioters invade Nancy Pelosis conduct, many blame on the outgoing president. Ask yourself who is the enemy of the American People right now, it clearly is President Trump inciting mob and threatening democrats and republicans alike. I want to go back to this chilling fact. We are in this situation because the president of the United States forced it. Chris you had the president for an hour filling a crowd with misstatements and facts that have been shredded in state courts, in federal courts. Howie some conservative commentators were harshly critical of his conduct. Lets be honest since november third when we got the verdict by november 5th, the president s behavior has been terrible. Hes clearly violated oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the constitution to the best of my ability. I dont think theres much doubt, bret, that the president s actions and his entire conduct post the election are what led us to this point. I think President Trump, Donald J Trump is done politically. Howie but others on the right have a different take. You can be horrified by the violence and as we said and we will say it again, we are horrified, its wrong, but if you dont bother to pause and learn a single thing from it from your citizens storming capitol building, then youre a fool. Suddenly the same media mob is trying to condemn all Trump Supporters, the vast majority in washington, d. C. Were peaceful, you cant paint them with a broad brush although youd like to. Howie the next day trump released scripted video announcing new administration will take over. Mollie hemingway, in new york liz claman, host of claman countdown. Mollie, there seems to be a rare consensus, fair or unfair . Mollie well, the first thing thats important is that theres consensus across the political spectrum that happened on wednesday was wrong and that is a good thing that there is consensus there. From that point, people are pointing blame and thats fine too because theres plenty of blame to go around and donald trump is certainly no exception at all to that. I think particularly what he did to mike pence was shameful and to be condemned and the problem, i think, the left whether in the media or otherwise are using the horrific attack that everyone agrees was horrible to go against 75 million Republican Voters and theyre not looking at what they themselves did to contribute to this. This was an escalation but its worth howie can you briefly clarify what you meant what President Trump did to Vice President , whats shameful about that . Mollie you look at the speech that was on the mall. President trump asked people to be peaceful and patriotic. People are saying thats incite meant, if thats incitement then everyone in congress is being called as inciter, but telling people that mike that mike pence, the former Vice President could really do anything on this day was dangerous and it was wrong and i think he owes mike pence an apology for it. Howie liz, you were live on the air on fbn when violence erupted but he refused to let go of a stolen election claims that has many supporters upset and led death of police fair or unfair . Liz fair. Is he responsible for the fact that with the momentum that they had, that they started going right off the cliff. You can see it right on your screen. More importantly is the bunked bite that you played which was President Trump, we are going to walk to the capitol, we, instigating the fact that planting the idea that he was there. I would agree with mollie that there is the point where everybody is on the same page about how horrific this was. Where the media differed was the planting of that blame, but when you look at the wall street journal which, of course, has been very fair, over all over the past 4 years to donald trump, wall street journal editorial board, trump incited the crowd. They specifically talked about the verbiage that he used to whip them up. Kimberley strassel, this is from the guy at the top. Neil cavuto, his show on fox news asked former hhs secretary tom price, did trump light the match and trump price appointed by President Trump said, in essence, this was unconscionable and unforgivable. There is that spike there. The bifurcation. Howie clarence, theres right to peaceful protest in the country which i know you value, is it fair to describe, for the media to describe all who went to capitol site as thugs and criminals . Clarence we saw people incite to what became a riot. He didnt have to say a word, as mollie said, come with me to the capitol and i i was down there when this all began to unfold and he made it very clear and the crowd was clear too and donald trump went back into the white house and watched it back on television and before the day before he had said mike pence is going to do the right thing and if he doesnt, hes not going to be very popular, words to that effect. Howie right, right. Clarence knowing all along that it wasnt legal. Howie i was just trying sorry, im just trying to make the distinction that not everybody who went to the capitol broke the law. Clarence i said that, definitely right. Howie one is that many pundits are now claiming vindication saying we have been telling you for four years that President Trump was dangerous, like your thoughts on that and we will talk about this in another segment, but brief comments on twitter taking the step of permanently banning donald trump . Mollie right, well, what i was thinking earlier too is that people arent putting enough blame on other people as well and the media, its a media show, we need to talk about what they did to contribute to the situation as well. The media has praised takeovers from capitols whether that was in wisconsin in 2011 and texas in 2013. Democrats encouraged proceedings there and attack on Supreme Court and summer of rage that the media not just coddling and enabling and supporting and other people such as democrats working to bail out rioters who took over cities, dozens of people that were killed, billions of dollars that were damaged, attacks on federal buildings, state and local buildings, churches, these are things that the media generally encouraged and took months to get anybody on the left to condemn them and the media said you have to listen to what people have to say. If you want to be heard, violence is an appropriate way to go about doing that. That also contributes to it. The response to this is terrifying. Whats happening with twitter, bigtech oligarchs works to suppress, on the day that democrats take control, collusion with big media, big tech and the Democratic Party to completely wipe out a Political Movement that has 75 million americans in it. Howie more on that in a few minutes. The Capitol Police handology of this was an handling of this was a massive failure and new reporting by the Washington Post shows that we narrowly everted a massacre by minutes really thanks to some brave officers on the Capitol Police force. Lets turn to the growing democratic talk of impeachment. Nancy pelosi now that the 25th amendments kind of die house and let me play a sound bite from an interview that airs tonight on 60 minutes. Well, sadly the person in the executive branch is a deranged, unhinged, dangerous president of the United States. Howie liz, does that kind of talk hurt the efforts to heal the country and the idea of impeaching the president again when he has ten days in his term, will that be covered or should that be covered as more beltway partisanship . Liz well, it is what democrats see as an opportunity, the moment to go in for the socalled kill. As you look at all of the past events in the past 72 hours and what happened at the capitol, it does especially considering we havent really heard from the president beyond he is scripted speech that he did put out on twitter, it does make you wonder what is really going on at the white house and you have Media Outlets trying to do that. I would argue that the blowback of what happened is very much a cluster bomb, its herding some down ballot people. You have red states like missouri, you have purple states such as wisconsin, their top reputable newspapers, you know, the kansas city, calling for ousting of josh hawley, congressman Scott Fitzgerald and ron johnson. So i think that the spread is now like wild fire and nobody should be surprised that the democrats will jump right on this. I do want to Say Something about the Capitol Hill Police because having been live on the air, we couldnt see what was inside, some let the rioters and others fought valiantly and one lost his life and we should never forget that. Howie i was talking about the planning. Clarence, it was only last sunday after our show the Washington Post released the audio, media freakout where the president calling Georgia Republican secretary of state, i just need to find 11,780 votes. My question is are the media rooting for a second impeachment of the Senate AlthoughSenate Conviction would be unlikely . Clarence the responsible media did not root anything. Maybe youre talking about the opinion people. They are entitled to say what they want to say. Democrats are divided about what to do now because they are outraged on what happened. Are there votes enough to impeachment . They have enough democratic votes but republicans for all the criticism that you hear from responsible republicans, the ranking file hasnt changed and the press are still on cruz and hawley, very much politically alive. Impeachment is dead and democrats, i think smart ones are looking at what can we do now with the new biden administration. Howie i have to get a break. Ahead former white house spokesman on whether the president twitter ban is justified. Trump officials who are resigning. Isnt it a little late to be piling on your heart isnt just yours. Protect it with bayer aspirin. Be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. Want to sell the best burger add an employee. Ode . Or ten. Then easily and automatically pay your team and file payroll taxes. That means. World domination or just the west side. Run payroll in less than five minutes with intuit quickbooks. Howie largely overshadowed by the riots, some of President Trumps most loyal allies broke with him over claims of stolen election. If we overrule them, it would damage our republic forever. I dont buy this. Enough is enough. We have to end it. Howie spade of resignations including education secretary betsy devos, transportation secretary elaine chao, mick money mulvaney. Chris do you feel any responsibility for enabling donald trump . I feel a lot of emotions this week, i was shocked, i was angered, i was frustrated. What happened on capitol hill was direct result of his poisoning the minds of people with the lies and the frauds. Howie bill barr who stepped down as attorney general last month told ap orchestrating a mob was unexcusable and betrayal of office and supporters. When you have bill barr issuing the blistering statement and spade of resignations its hard to say that most of this is kust because the liberal media dont like donald trump. Mollie oh, absolutely. I think its true that at the end of an Administration People tend to be leaving. We are literally in the last hours of an administration with media frenzy and you can overstate the importance of some of the departures. People are absolutely are saying how they feel about this and thats appropriate. Its inappropriate, of course, to blame 75 million americans for what happened which is whats quickly happening as the media mauve band of rioters across the capitol and entire impeach an entire movement and trying to silence that many people and thats a big story going forward. Howie liz, the washington reports that President Trump is furious at mike pence for not using power which he does not have under the constitution to try to block the Electoral College results and senator says that pence is mad at trump. The media dont need to hype the backlash against the president. Liz the media dont need to hype anything about mike pence because people saw with their own eyes that this mob as the wall street journal call it descended chanting and theres video of this hang mike pence. In fact, we need to point out that a lot of the video that came through from reporters that happened to be inside and caught in the fray show that these people came weponized. There was one man with a spear, 6foot long spear, zip ties, one got inside the chamber and up load of human restraint zip ties, for what, taking people hostage. The mike pence thing is very crucial but as for the people who were leaving the administration from betsy devos to elaine chao, the Deputy National security adviser which is crucial. We need national security, maybe some of it is conscious, maybe some of it is just trying to 25th amendment invocation chatter and didnt want to be part of it. Howie some of the pundits are saying well, too little too late and they are trying to salvage the reputation, do you think its fair . Clarence it is too little too late and whats most important, howard, the general public, 70, 75 million Trump Supporters out there and all the folks that are making excuses for mr. Trump still, we can talk about should people get away with impunity after all of this or what about those who supported by just simply being passive to recall, what really matters here if you let this happen and dont try to to have some kind of punishment for those who are responsible who are accountable, encouraging disruption to happen again. Howie right. Okay. Clarence we need to talk about being passive, you can be an accessory. Howie on the sunday shows, other allies, Chris Christie called the president s impeachable and pat toomey said that he should resign. Loyalists like Liz Mcconnell and lindsay graham, no evidence of widespread election fraud, doesnt that match what the media has been saying pretty much since the election . Mollie well, that removes the problem which is people are trying to conflate very important issues. We had a sloppy elections and tens of millions of people are concerned about that and the concerned should not be lumped in with people who have elaborate conspiracy theories about servers in different states, Different Countries and what not and these type of conspiracy theories. The problem, the underlying problem whether people have faith in the country, faith in electoral systems, thats not going away. You cant hide the fact that people have these concerns. You to address them. The media have done a horrible job of addressing them for years and also all of the other issues that concern these people and trying to eliminate them or pretend like they are very Serious Problems with how the country is being run dont exist is not going to help anything. Again, people are forgetting all of the violence, the summer of rage that we had this year and all of the violence leading up to this year that was embolden by people on the left, including Kamala Harris put out link to bail out rioters when they were taking minneapolis, these were things that happened and if the media pretend that didnt happen and go after people on the right, thats going to further make problems for this country and people should be thinking about how to heal the country. Howie i do think the widespread distrust of the media even after what happened in the capitol on wednesday is a continuum problem for this business. Mollie hemingway, clarence page, thank you very much for joining us. 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