Transcripts For FOXNEWSW On The Record With Brit Hume 201610

Trumps poll number dropping just one point. And it also shows that 74 of Republican Voters want their party to stand by trump. And cbs conducted a snap poll in ohio and reached out to voters before and then again after the video was released, among donald trump backers, 91 say this video does not change their view of him. Among all likely voters, 44 have a worse view of him but the mothority, 54 , say this does not change their view. And donald trump could have a good night and so how does he do that. The Campaign Cowboys join us. Karl rove and joe trippy. Good evening. First to you, cakarl, what he ds need to do about the controversy about that remarkable video. You are right, it doesnt affect his supporters, at least not much so far. But 8 of the 40some odd percent that he has got means he would lose a few points and that is a big margin when you are already five points behind. What he needs to do tonight is to begin he cant get it all the way back but he could begin to get back on his footing. One is by a statement of humble contrition for what he said and did. And an explanation that he feels that whatever he said ten years ago, this campaign has made him a changed man. He understands the responsibility he has to speak on behalf of change for those who put their trust and confidence in him. And then in my opinion, he needs to put the focus such as it can be on both her record as status quo and if he has any current disagreements with her, let those be over the the revelation that she says one thing to business and wall street audiences and something entirely different to democratic primary voters and general election voters and stay away from bill clinton. She is prepared for that. And she wants to be victim and aggressor. And if he thinks that this is the worst and last op dump they have on him, i suspect more tapes are coming and the more he digs in it against bill the more relevant he makes those attacks on him. And joe, how does Hillary Clinton behave tonight. Does she drive this video home or does she stick to the issues . What . I think she just gets out of trumps way and try to let him get out of this watch how he does it and then just turn to voters and say listen to what you heard just like she did in the last one. I think that this is a really tough pickle that hes in. I agree with karl, this isnt the last thing well see coming. I do agree with him. Donald trump has to do something none of us have ever seen him do before, he has to be sincerely contrite. Not teleprompter contrite. He has to be show humility and he has got to step back and if he comes after Hillary Clinton tonight, it does have to be on the issues. I think bringing up bill clinton and the past after this without humility and without being contrite and without a real apology is going to be a disaster for him. Well, is it not possible, though, joe, that there is a way into this for him to raise the fact that she countenanced her own husbands serious misbehavior with women and there is obviously one allegation of rape that has never quite gone away. And there is no way to use that and have that be effective. Is she ready for that . Could she turn that against him . I think this is going to be look, i think the clinton defense is not going to work for him tonight. But it is sort of every time hes done something, he and his supporters have said, oh, yeah, but clinton i dont think that will work here. He could try to do that. But i think the real problem here is when you go back to those polls that you were looking at, brit, it is okay even if he holds on to his supporters and karl points out if he loses a few percent of them that is bad given where he starts. But his problem was he he was trying to reach out to women, to suburban folks and to collegeeducated whites and these are the people he had to grow. Got it. And this thing really pushed him away. Karl, your thoughts on that . Well, look, i think there is one instance in which he could raise the issue of bill clinton and that is if she goes after him on this issue and goes over the top. If she is out there just lambasting him and he is given a contrite statement of apology and he feels that he is on honored ground, he has the ability to go back at her but it has to be measured and short. If she is over the top, its better to say, appreciate that but at least i did something your husband never did and i apologize for the language. Hes never apologized for his actions. And then and only then. But here the counter punch is better than the punch and it is unlikely that she will, in my opinion, go after him hot and heavy about this. She has smart people around her and they understand this thing has a life of its own, particularly if there is more stuff coming and if they have more oppo tape that drop on a convenient news outlet but if she does, he will have a brief moment to respond to it in a way that is devastating and short and not angry and more in regret than in anger. Got it karl. Well move on now. Late last week, ahead of tonights debate, but in comparison to the trump tape this is covered much less about the media. Im talking about leaked paid speeches given to wall street and other groups. Shannon bream has detailed from the unearthed speeches. We could never let wall street wreck main street again. I spoke out against wall street when i was a senator from new york. That is Hillary Clinton last april during the democratic primary. But new emails wikileaks claim are directly linked to clinton and her closest Associates Show that she repeatedly boasted of her close ties to wall street including the mark e remarks made to a law firm that, quote when i was a senator from new york, i represented and worked with so many talented principaled people. And Hillary Clinton said one thing on the campaign trail and another behind closed doors. It is a suspicion she seemed to confirm herself in a 2013 speech she gave to the national multihousing council. Quote, if everybody is watching, all of the back room discussions and the deals and then people get nervous to say the least. So you need both a public and a private position. We came out of the white house not only dead broke but in debt. That is clinton in 2014. Just two months earlier she allegedly told Goldman Sachs and black rock she was far removed from her middle class upbringing. Quote, because the life ive lived and the economic you know fortunes that my husband and i now enjoy. Trump represents the same rigged system that he claims hes going to change. That is the language voters heard throughout the primary. But in a speech at Deutsche Bank in 2014, clinton cast doubt on whether the system is rigged at all, saying, quote, even if it may not be 100 true, if the perception is that somehow the game is rigged, that should be a problem for all of us. Hillary clinton is for open borders. Politico fact claimed that false when Rudy Giuliani said it at the rnc and cited this sound bite that she doesnt support open borders. We need to secure our boarders. Im for it. I voted for it. I believe in it. And we also need to deal with the families, the workers who are here and made contributions and their children. But in 2013 remarks to a Brazilian Bank he advocated for just the opposite. Quote, my dream of a hemispheric Common Market with open trade and open boards. Sometime in the future with energy as green and sustainable as we could get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere. And so the Clinton Campaign has refused to confirm the authenticity of the emails released on friday night by wikileaks and refusing to deny that the speech excerpts are actually authentic. Brit. So what are they actually saying . They are saying that if you heard john podesta, he said i cant go through and see what is real and fake and there is not time but when pressed on the transcripts, if you saw donna brazil, she refused to talk about them and whether they are legit. You know what that means to me, they are legit. Up dont have to say that. Karl rove and joe trippy are back to talk about the leaked transcripts. Gentlemen, first to you, joe, my sense as you just heard me say to shannon, they wouldnt confirm or deny suggests these transcripts are on the up and up. Your thoughts. I think that could be true. But i think in the end, Hillary Clinton has some explaining to do and shell have to answer this im sure tonight shell get asked. But were in a situation where once again trump sort of dominating the cycle right now and his predicament, i would much rather be in hers than his right now. And so i think tonights debate is really going to be his to try to save his candidacy. This may be damaging, but i dont think it will be something that her candidacy is on the line the way his is. Karl . Sex beats money and video beats paper and the attacks on him are coming from a video about sex. And the attacks on her are coming from paper about money. So hes in a worse shape than she is. But he has to use this as the way to go back on the offense. It strikes me. Because it gives him a chance to go at a weakness. If there is one thing we think about Hillary Clinton, it is that she will say and do anything in order to get elected and another thing we believe about her is that she will necessarily curry favor with the people that she thinks could bring them power and advantage. And so these things are i think the colloquy between you and shannon about what these things are, they refuse to say and refuse it doesnt take anything. All they have to do is pass out the transcripts and well make the decisions as to whether or not they are accurate or not. But agree, they are accurate. And so this is something that he could use to go on offense. It is a heck of a lot better than trying to relitigate bill clintons manifold sins and the people up for grabs, this is her weakness. This is one of the two or three principle weaknesses and she is untrusty and dishonest and this goes to prove it. And let me have another question here. Shes had some difficulty with Younger Voters and those that supported Bernie Sanders and im sure the concern is particularly with young voters that they wont turn out to vote for her. Doesnt this problem as it relates something to the border question where she has stayed one position and now we are talking about how shes dreaming that she she dreams of a time of open borders and this cozy relationship with wall street, dont those combine to reinforce the doubt to the point that it could affect turnout well i dont think the specifics of open boards and trade affect young people as much as she tells us one thing and does another but the wall street thing does go to the sanders and millennial voters are concerned about. Joe, go ahead. And the key is does trump have the discipline to make this case. And so i agree with what karl said tonight. He those be contrite and show humility and take to these kind of issues and the divide and the contrast between him and her on these issues. In the past but if hes coming in here loaded for bear to go after bill clinton, well see what happens, but if that is where he is going, there is no way hell come out of this debate with any chance to resurrect his candidacy. Brit, one more quick thing. Shes got to go to something new. She has to be prepared with a response to all of these items that came up. She may not be prepared if he comes at her on another issue with the same problem of saying and doing Different Things at different times. Karl and joe, thanks. Well come back to you later. Stay with us, please. And here to respond are Scott Jennings who did political analysis for the george w. Bush white house and the columnist george will. George, your thoughts on the leaked emails and what they mean. I think karl is largely right, it is very hard to get peoples attention in a fire storm that weve had for the last two or three days on something when you read the transcript, it looks like pandering to the people who are paying her lavish fees. It is not attractive or dynamite. Scott . Yeah, i think she has a problem because it is a topic that allows trump to get back to the one area in this campaign where hes been scoring points and that is on economy, trade, job creation, nobody believes that Hillary Clinton knows how to create jobs in the private sector and the main rational is just that and if he could get on that topic and the issue set for more time than in the first debate, we could have a good debate tonight. What about the statements he he made about how you deal with the controversy and so on you have to have a public and a private position. Is that simply more of what we already knew about her, george, or does this take it to another level. This is a kinsley gaf, who said that a gaff is when a politician said something true but in politics, you do some things and you do things in the background when you are negotiating, cutting deals and splitting differences and making sausage and i dont think this is startling but it is again not something that the public likes to hear. So, scott, if you are donald trump, it has been suggested by the earlier panelists that you could take advantage of this and how do you picture him doing that. I think he has to get the outrage of the day off the table right out of the gate. He has to get ready for her attacks on the New York Times income tax story because i think where hillary is going to try to defend herself on the economy and on the documents is to point out the income tax issue and maybe he is not the great business man that he says he is. He has to be able to perry those attacks and move back in offense and not allow himself to be distracted and spends all night on defense and flustered about what she is likely to say about him and that is a huge problem and he cant control any flow in this debate. That seems to suggest, scott, is that he is going to need some selfdiscipline. George, do you think he could muster the selfdiscipline to avoid walking into traps and at the same time turning things to the things he wants to talk about. Just the contrition is not part of his repertoire and neither is discipline. He is a counter puncher and an attacker. He also is in a terrible position now. Because 20 years ago, in 1996, at exactly this point in the campaign, it became clear to republicans that bob dole is not going to defeat president clinton. The entire republican apparatus shifted and the argument became elect senator so and so, the republican, congressman, so and so, the republican, as a check on the Clinton Presidency. And i think you will see that now. People are going to assume that the Clinton Presidency is going to happen. There is talk, scott, that Party Resources will be turned away from supporting trump and more than ever toward retaining control of the house and senate. Do you sense that that strategy is about to take effect . Well, i think certainly in order to hold the United States senate, we have to keep republicans, rural voters and christian voters going to the polls. One thing im worried about are rural voters, and christians dissuading they dont want the decision for president on their conscious and they dont want to choose between either and they decide to sit it out. The Republican Party has to keep those folks going to the polls. I worried about North Carolina and missouri where there are close polling f. A handful of people dont show up, it could cost the majority and it is a huge problem. George, final thoughts. The Faith Community he is referring to has been a big part of the republican constituency for years and taken seriously and courted by candidates. If the Faith Community could weather this storm of trump news the leaders are sticking with him. They are sticking with him. It is going to cause people to rethink what it it means to be in the Faith Community. Scott and george, thanks to both of you. Stay here with fox news and we await the second president ial debate. What does trump need to do . Well talkthat shortly. Stay tuned. Man dear mr. Danoff, my wife and i are now participating in your mutual fund. We invested in your fund to help us pay for a College Education for our son. Weve enclosed a picture of our son so that you can get a sense there are real people out here trusting you with their hardearned money. At fidelity, we dont just manage money, we manage peoples money. Tonights second president ial debate is less than two hours away and in the past 48 hours a number of republicans have bolted from donald trump and pulled support for his candidacy. But it is wise to abandon trump at this late hour of the campaign. Our nightly Political Panel is here. Night york, from the Washington Examiner and heidi press bella from usa today. There are fairly notable people who have walked away now from trump based on this. John mccain being one. Senator portman from ohio, the list goes on. Your thoughts about whether this is politically wise at this late stage . Well, it has to matter to the candidate if his goal is still to win. Because what i think it will do is two things. One, it will harden the support among his core supporters who are really angry and feel like he is like he does, like he is being abandoned. But it is also going to, i think, crystallize the independent support that drifted away from him over the last couple of weeks since the last debate and i think the bigger question at this point is just the absolute quandary that some of these members are in right now. You saw the politico poll this morning showing that a number of republicans are sticking by trump. So that makes the decision for what they do really difficult. Because they still need these Trump Supporters to not bail on them when they go to the polls. So i think the big quandary today is really how these members handle it themselves and whether we continue to det t see the defection. Tomorrow it will depend on the performance. Tonight is a Republican Voters<\/a> want their party to stand by trump. And cbs conducted a snap poll in ohio and reached out to voters before and then again after the video was released, among donald trump backers, 91 say this video does not change their view of him. Among all likely voters, 44 have a worse view of him but the mothority, 54 , say this does not change their view. And donald trump could have a good night and so how does he do that. The Campaign Cowboys<\/a> join us. Karl rove and joe trippy. Good evening. First to you, cakarl, what he ds need to do about the controversy about that remarkable video. You are right, it doesnt affect his supporters, at least not much so far. But 8 of the 40some odd percent that he has got means he would lose a few points and that is a big margin when you are already five points behind. What he needs to do tonight is to begin he cant get it all the way back but he could begin to get back on his footing. One is by a statement of humble contrition for what he said and did. And an explanation that he feels that whatever he said ten years ago, this campaign has made him a changed man. He understands the responsibility he has to speak on behalf of change for those who put their trust and confidence in him. And then in my opinion, he needs to put the focus such as it can be on both her record as status quo and if he has any current disagreements with her, let those be over the the revelation that she says one thing to business and wall street audiences and something entirely different to democratic primary voters and general election voters and stay away from bill clinton. She is prepared for that. And she wants to be victim and aggressor. And if he thinks that this is the worst and last op dump they have on him, i suspect more tapes are coming and the more he digs in it against bill the more relevant he makes those attacks on him. And joe, how does Hillary Clinton<\/a> behave tonight. Does she drive this video home or does she stick to the issues . What . I think she just gets out of trumps way and try to let him get out of this watch how he does it and then just turn to voters and say listen to what you heard just like she did in the last one. I think that this is a really tough pickle that hes in. I agree with karl, this isnt the last thing well see coming. I do agree with him. Donald trump has to do something none of us have ever seen him do before, he has to be sincerely contrite. Not teleprompter contrite. He has to be show humility and he has got to step back and if he comes after Hillary Clinton<\/a> tonight, it does have to be on the issues. I think bringing up bill clinton and the past after this without humility and without being contrite and without a real apology is going to be a disaster for him. Well, is it not possible, though, joe, that there is a way into this for him to raise the fact that she countenanced her own husbands serious misbehavior with women and there is obviously one allegation of rape that has never quite gone away. And there is no way to use that and have that be effective. Is she ready for that . Could she turn that against him . I think this is going to be look, i think the clinton defense is not going to work for him tonight. But it is sort of every time hes done something, he and his supporters have said, oh, yeah, but clinton i dont think that will work here. He could try to do that. But i think the real problem here is when you go back to those polls that you were looking at, brit, it is okay even if he holds on to his supporters and karl points out if he loses a few percent of them that is bad given where he starts. But his problem was he he was trying to reach out to women, to suburban folks and to collegeeducated whites and these are the people he had to grow. Got it. And this thing really pushed him away. Karl, your thoughts on that . Well, look, i think there is one instance in which he could raise the issue of bill clinton and that is if she goes after him on this issue and goes over the top. If she is out there just lambasting him and he is given a contrite statement of apology and he feels that he is on honored ground, he has the ability to go back at her but it has to be measured and short. If she is over the top, its better to say, appreciate that but at least i did something your husband never did and i apologize for the language. Hes never apologized for his actions. And then and only then. But here the counter punch is better than the punch and it is unlikely that she will, in my opinion, go after him hot and heavy about this. She has smart people around her and they understand this thing has a life of its own, particularly if there is more stuff coming and if they have more oppo tape that drop on a convenient news outlet but if she does, he will have a brief moment to respond to it in a way that is devastating and short and not angry and more in regret than in anger. Got it karl. Well move on now. Late last week, ahead of tonights debate, but in comparison to the trump tape this is covered much less about the media. Im talking about leaked paid speeches given to wall street and other groups. Shannon bream has detailed from the unearthed speeches. We could never let wall street wreck main street again. I spoke out against wall street when i was a senator from new york. That is Hillary Clinton<\/a> last april during the democratic primary. But new emails wikileaks claim are directly linked to clinton and her closest Associates Show<\/a> that she repeatedly boasted of her close ties to wall street including the mark e remarks made to a law firm that, quote when i was a senator from new york, i represented and worked with so many talented principaled people. And Hillary Clinton<\/a> said one thing on the campaign trail and another behind closed doors. It is a suspicion she seemed to confirm herself in a 2013 speech she gave to the national multihousing council. Quote, if everybody is watching, all of the back room discussions and the deals and then people get nervous to say the least. So you need both a public and a private position. We came out of the white house not only dead broke but in debt. That is clinton in 2014. Just two months earlier she allegedly told Goldman Sachs<\/a> and black rock she was far removed from her middle class upbringing. Quote, because the life ive lived and the economic you know fortunes that my husband and i now enjoy. Trump represents the same rigged system that he claims hes going to change. That is the language voters heard throughout the primary. But in a speech at Deutsche Bank<\/a> in 2014, clinton cast doubt on whether the system is rigged at all, saying, quote, even if it may not be 100 true, if the perception is that somehow the game is rigged, that should be a problem for all of us. Hillary clinton is for open borders. Politico fact claimed that false when Rudy Giuliani<\/a> said it at the rnc and cited this sound bite that she doesnt support open borders. We need to secure our boarders. Im for it. I voted for it. I believe in it. And we also need to deal with the families, the workers who are here and made contributions and their children. But in 2013 remarks to a Brazilian Bank<\/a> he advocated for just the opposite. Quote, my dream of a hemispheric Common Market<\/a> with open trade and open boards. Sometime in the future with energy as green and sustainable as we could get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere. And so the Clinton Campaign<\/a> has refused to confirm the authenticity of the emails released on friday night by wikileaks and refusing to deny that the speech excerpts are actually authentic. Brit. So what are they actually saying . They are saying that if you heard john podesta, he said i cant go through and see what is real and fake and there is not time but when pressed on the transcripts, if you saw donna brazil, she refused to talk about them and whether they are legit. You know what that means to me, they are legit. Up dont have to say that. Karl rove and joe trippy are back to talk about the leaked transcripts. Gentlemen, first to you, joe, my sense as you just heard me say to shannon, they wouldnt confirm or deny suggests these transcripts are on the up and up. Your thoughts. I think that could be true. But i think in the end, Hillary Clinton<\/a> has some explaining to do and shell have to answer this im sure tonight shell get asked. But were in a situation where once again trump sort of dominating the cycle right now and his predicament, i would much rather be in hers than his right now. And so i think tonights debate is really going to be his to try to save his candidacy. This may be damaging, but i dont think it will be something that her candidacy is on the line the way his is. Karl . Sex beats money and video beats paper and the attacks on him are coming from a video about sex. And the attacks on her are coming from paper about money. So hes in a worse shape than she is. But he has to use this as the way to go back on the offense. It strikes me. Because it gives him a chance to go at a weakness. If there is one thing we think about Hillary Clinton<\/a>, it is that she will say and do anything in order to get elected and another thing we believe about her is that she will necessarily curry favor with the people that she thinks could bring them power and advantage. And so these things are i think the colloquy between you and shannon about what these things are, they refuse to say and refuse it doesnt take anything. All they have to do is pass out the transcripts and well make the decisions as to whether or not they are accurate or not. But agree, they are accurate. And so this is something that he could use to go on offense. It is a heck of a lot better than trying to relitigate bill clintons manifold sins and the people up for grabs, this is her weakness. This is one of the two or three principle weaknesses and she is untrusty and dishonest and this goes to prove it. And let me have another question here. Shes had some difficulty with Younger Voters<\/a> and those that supported Bernie Sanders<\/a> and im sure the concern is particularly with young voters that they wont turn out to vote for her. Doesnt this problem as it relates something to the border question where she has stayed one position and now we are talking about how shes dreaming that she she dreams of a time of open borders and this cozy relationship with wall street, dont those combine to reinforce the doubt to the point that it could affect turnout well i dont think the specifics of open boards and trade affect young people as much as she tells us one thing and does another but the wall street thing does go to the sanders and millennial voters are concerned about. Joe, go ahead. And the key is does trump have the discipline to make this case. And so i agree with what karl said tonight. He those be contrite and show humility and take to these kind of issues and the divide and the contrast between him and her on these issues. In the past but if hes coming in here loaded for bear to go after bill clinton, well see what happens, but if that is where he is going, there is no way hell come out of this debate with any chance to resurrect his candidacy. Brit, one more quick thing. Shes got to go to something new. She has to be prepared with a response to all of these items that came up. She may not be prepared if he comes at her on another issue with the same problem of saying and doing Different Things<\/a> at different times. Karl and joe, thanks. Well come back to you later. Stay with us, please. And here to respond are Scott Jennings<\/a> who did political analysis for the george w. Bush white house and the columnist george will. George, your thoughts on the leaked emails and what they mean. I think karl is largely right, it is very hard to get peoples attention in a fire storm that weve had for the last two or three days on something when you read the transcript, it looks like pandering to the people who are paying her lavish fees. It is not attractive or dynamite. Scott . Yeah, i think she has a problem because it is a topic that allows trump to get back to the one area in this campaign where hes been scoring points and that is on economy, trade, job creation, nobody believes that Hillary Clinton<\/a> knows how to create jobs in the private sector and the main rational is just that and if he could get on that topic and the issue set for more time than in the first debate, we could have a good debate tonight. What about the statements he he made about how you deal with the controversy and so on you have to have a public and a private position. Is that simply more of what we already knew about her, george, or does this take it to another level. This is a kinsley gaf, who said that a gaff is when a politician said something true but in politics, you do some things and you do things in the background when you are negotiating, cutting deals and splitting differences and making sausage and i dont think this is startling but it is again not something that the public likes to hear. So, scott, if you are donald trump, it has been suggested by the earlier panelists that you could take advantage of this and how do you picture him doing that. I think he has to get the outrage of the day off the table right out of the gate. He has to get ready for her attacks on the New York Times<\/a> income tax story because i think where hillary is going to try to defend herself on the economy and on the documents is to point out the income tax issue and maybe he is not the great business man that he says he is. He has to be able to perry those attacks and move back in offense and not allow himself to be distracted and spends all night on defense and flustered about what she is likely to say about him and that is a huge problem and he cant control any flow in this debate. That seems to suggest, scott, is that he is going to need some selfdiscipline. George, do you think he could muster the selfdiscipline to avoid walking into traps and at the same time turning things to the things he wants to talk about. Just the contrition is not part of his repertoire and neither is discipline. He is a counter puncher and an attacker. He also is in a terrible position now. Because 20 years ago, in 1996, at exactly this point in the campaign, it became clear to republicans that bob dole is not going to defeat president clinton. The entire republican apparatus shifted and the argument became elect senator so and so, the republican, congressman, so and so, the republican, as a check on the Clinton Presidency<\/a>. And i think you will see that now. People are going to assume that the Clinton Presidency<\/a> is going to happen. There is talk, scott, that Party Resources<\/a> will be turned away from supporting trump and more than ever toward retaining control of the house and senate. Do you sense that that strategy is about to take effect . Well, i think certainly in order to hold the United States<\/a> senate, we have to keep republicans, rural voters and christian voters going to the polls. One thing im worried about are rural voters, and christians dissuading they dont want the decision for president on their conscious and they dont want to choose between either and they decide to sit it out. The Republican Party<\/a> has to keep those folks going to the polls. I worried about North Carolina<\/a> and missouri where there are close polling f. A handful of people dont show up, it could cost the majority and it is a huge problem. George, final thoughts. The Faith Community<\/a> he is referring to has been a big part of the republican constituency for years and taken seriously and courted by candidates. If the Faith Community<\/a> could weather this storm of trump news the leaders are sticking with him. They are sticking with him. It is going to cause people to rethink what it it means to be in the Faith Community<\/a>. Scott and george, thanks to both of you. Stay here with fox news and we await the second president ial debate. What does trump need to do . Well talkthat shortly. Stay tuned. Man dear mr. Danoff, my wife and i are now participating in your mutual fund. We invested in your fund to help us pay for a College Education<\/a> for our son. Weve enclosed a picture of our son so that you can get a sense there are real people out here trusting you with their hardearned money. At fidelity, we dont just manage money, we manage peoples money. Tonights second president ial debate is less than two hours away and in the past 48 hours a number of republicans have bolted from donald trump and pulled support for his candidacy. But it is wise to abandon trump at this late hour of the campaign. Our nightly Political Panel<\/a> is here. Night york, from the Washington Examiner<\/a> and heidi press bella from usa today. There are fairly notable people who have walked away now from trump based on this. John mccain being one. Senator portman from ohio, the list goes on. Your thoughts about whether this is politically wise at this late stage . Well, it has to matter to the candidate if his goal is still to win. Because what i think it will do is two things. One, it will harden the support among his core supporters who are really angry and feel like he is like he does, like he is being abandoned. But it is also going to, i think, crystallize the independent support that drifted away from him over the last couple of weeks since the last debate and i think the bigger question at this point is just the absolute quandary that some of these members are in right now. You saw the politico poll this morning showing that a number of republicans are sticking by trump. So that makes the decision for what they do really difficult. Because they still need these Trump Supporters<\/a> to not bail on them when they go to the polls. So i think the big quandary today is really how these members handle it themselves and whether we continue to det t see the defection. Tomorrow it will depend on the performance. Tonight is a Conference Call<\/a> among republicans and theyll have to make some tough decisions. Lets take a look at some of the faces that represent those who have walked away from donald trump. I mentioned john mccain among others, there you see them. Fairly prominent members. A number of them up for reelection. Byron, your thoughts of how this plays out with so many supporters prepare to stick by him and if my twitter feed is any indication, these people are furious at those who are bailing out on him. Mine too. Trump was in a perilous moment yesterday. Now the video story comes out on friday. There are about eight hours on saturday where it looked like there might be a gop stampede away from him. And you did see john mccain and you saw john thune, number three ranking republican in the senate go away and robi from alabama and you say a variety of the republican lawmakers cut and run from donald trump. My feeling is some of them, like representative Jason Chaffetz<\/a> from utah, they are pretty safe because trump is not popular in utah. Others may have gotten out a little ahead of their voters. Not sure about rob portman who is running way ahead of Ted Strickland<\/a> in ohio and he had endorsed trump and had kind of he was he reversed his endorsement. Exactly. Yeah. So what i think you saw was first of all, we dont have any good polls. You cant have a good poll this quickly after an event. It has to kind of percolate a little bit. But even on the basis of this poll in polit oik this morning, i think maybe some Lawmakers Said<\/a> i dont want to get way out in front of my voters right now who seem to be sticking with trump to for the moment ill just stay quiet. I think that is what a bunch of them have done. Were going to come back to you in a little while. We have 90 minutes away from the second president ial debate. So what are the candidates themselves doing for the final preparation . Well take you to both campaigns coming up next. 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And right now we could show you live video of what the Trump Campaign<\/a> calls his debate prep but on the left hand side of your screen, the woman immediately sitting there is juanita brod drick and Kathleen Willie<\/a> and both are bill clinton accusers. In the case of broad drick, she was tweeted by donald trump and made a statement to Breitbart News<\/a> that she was raped by bill clinton in 1978 and that shes still afraid and still very much hurt and it is a very painful experience made more so by the idea Hillary Clinton<\/a> could be the president. This suggests that trumps debate prep as the Campaign Calls<\/a> it is more on the scorched earth side. In addition to going after Hillary Clinton<\/a> for bill clintons infidelity, the other part of the trump strategy to go negative includes going after his republican critics. And when you look at what has happened in the wake of the video from billy bush with the access hollywood and on the way to the soap opera taping and the outrage is severe. Republican governors and house members have not supported him and wont endorse him any more and trump has made it clear to some of his debate advisers back at trump tower that he has very little tolerance for them. It is worth noting that at trump tower at what has been the more serious debate prep for donald trump is mostly men. Chris christie, Rudy Giuliani<\/a>, steve bannon, the Campaign Chairman<\/a> have been the primary helpers in the process for trump and kelly anne conway, the noted pollster who made her reputation to how to appeal more to women and she is involved and a devout catholic and sarah huckabee, and huckabee the evangelical minister, have more of the mind he has to be more empathetic in his apology and get back on message as opposed to bashing Hillary Clinton<\/a> when it is Hillary Clinton<\/a> that is his actual rival. So if anybodys guesses is to what is happen tonight and if Trump Goes Nuclear<\/a> and goes after the Republican Party<\/a> and bill, that could do more damage. Although it is a virtual certainty that his most loyal supporters will think anything bashing hillary is delicious. Brit. Carl, you covered him now for sometime. And you just pointed out the video with some of the women that have accused him of improper sex advances and in one case of rape, would itsense fro signals to all of us he will raise those issues and go after bill clinton and his misbehavior or is this more for illustration and perhaps more intimidation. I think there is a distinct possibility that he could get into her head and under her skin and with the tweets and the appearance with them right before the debate, which ses streaming live online is one heck of a head fake and Hillary Clinton<\/a> is likely to confront him tonight with some of theus in his past and some of the issues in his past and president and if not from the audience, the moderators would have to ask this given that it has sucked out the oxygen of the campaign for the last three years. Thank you, karl. Well check in with you later. Jennifer griffin is with the Clinton Campaign<\/a> and joins us from st. Louis. What about the clinton preparations today . Reporter well, right now we are in spin alley and her chief Communications Director<\/a> told reporters she is not sure that Hillary Clinton<\/a> ever saw or listened to the trump tapes. Hard to believe, i know. She was briefed on it and they expect it to be the first line of questioning tonight. That was what the moderators have suggested online. That it will be front and center tonight. Hillary clinton refused a question shouted at her by reporters as she got on her plane in westchester, new york, earlier today. The campaign wants her First Response<\/a> to be on stage tonight with donald trump standing by her side with more than 80 Million People<\/a> expected to watch. We have an indication of her line of attack from her running mate. The tape yesterday is donald trump describing his actions. And there are women who are basically coming out and saying, yeah, he did that to me. So if it were locker room banter, it would be a little bit of a disqualifier in the character of somebody you want as commanderinchief but he is describing things that he did that are basically tant amount to sexual abuse or sexual assault. They are trying to present trump as a sexual predator but this could be mutually assured destruction. The tone of the Clinton Campaign<\/a> was one of gravity and no joking on the plane and surrounded by more than a dozen top advisers and it is one time so many have flown with her on the plane and has a few surrogates willing to speak up for trump today and facing an exodus of republican support. You see, republicans leaving him in droves and now there are 16 republicans who six republicans who said he should withdrawal or they wont vote for him and i think hell have some explaining to do tonight. Jen palmary had strong words for kelly ayotte and rob portman and for only now distancing themselves from donald trump. It is clear that the Clinton Campaign<\/a> strategy is to look down ballot and try to again retake the senate by focusing on senators who are facing reelection and hoping that they could turn the Senate Democratic<\/a> this fall. Also tonight, brit, of course, the golden question is will Hillary Clinton<\/a> shake her opponents hand when she comes on stage. Back to you. Jennifer, we are watching for that. Thank you very much. Robert de niro is no fan of donald trump. He stars in a video targeting the republican nominee. Watch this. Hes so blatantly stupid. He is a punk. Hes a dog. Hes a pig. Hes a con. A [ bleep ]. A mutt who doesnt know what he is talking about. Doesnt do his homework. Doesnt care. Thinks he is gaming society. Doesnt pay his taxes. Colin powell said it best. He is a National Disaster<\/a> and embarrassment to this country. It makes me so angry that this country has gotten to this point that this fool, this bozo has wound up where he has. He talks about how he would like to purng people in the face punch people in the face. I would like to punch him in the face. What i care about is the direction of this country. And what im very, very worried about is that it might go in the wrong direction. With someone like donald trump. If you care about your future, vote for it. Wow but fellow actor and noted conservative john voight jumped into action to defend him in a series of tweets, im so ashamed of my fellow actor bobby de n o niros rant against donald trump. Who has worked harder than any other man to get a good message to the american people. Dont know too many men that havent expressed similar sexual terms to women, especially in their younger years. And did the media focus on the donald trump individual and ignore a Hillary Clinton<\/a> email matter. Well look at the coverage of that as we count down to the next president ial debate. Stay with us. Crisp garden vegetables. No artificial flavors. 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Serious allergic reactions can occur. Nows your chance at completely clear skin. Just ask your doctor about taltz. That stage is where trump and Hillary Clinton<\/a> will square off for the First Time Since<\/a> the release of the lewd video and that video has dominated the news cycle since friday night but are the media ignoring a Major Political<\/a> story. Our panel is back. Byron york, and heidi press bola, senior politics reporter. And this video was sufficiently shocking and i knew there would be a tremendous amount of coverage and i think there is nothing inappropriate about that. I just wondering if it has suck ceased in burying the story about clintons emails in which were their pretty own strong medicine. Your thoughts . The answer is almost yes. You would see where the trump story would get more coverage because it involved audio, you heard trump in his own voice saying this stuff. Much more powerful than if it was just a print story quoting him. So, look, you could see why it got that big. It is about something that everybody has an opinion on. It is disgusted at officers and places where people gather. So that is true. But some of the clinton stuff is very, very significant and very issue oriented where she had said in a speech that she wanted a hemispheric open borders. That kind of stuff is very powerful for use in the debate is trump is stillfkillful enoug do it. There is a huge imbalance between the two issues. Heidi, lets suppose forsake of discussion that we didnt have this trump matter that is so explosive, would this clinton story that the the several that grow out of the email releases, would it have be much different in your judgment . Oh, totally. This would have been her october surprise. There is a lot of stuff in there. Some more damaging than others. Some of it is hold your nose sfuf stuff. But if the trump story wasnt out today, the Clinton Campaign<\/a> would be forced to come out with surrogates in full and answer for these on all of the specifics that have been leaked in here. Instead the candidate herself and byron could aheft to this attest to this, were here in the spin room and the clinton surrogates have been nowhere today because they dont want to step on the trump story ant dont want to answer for this wikileaks stories. I have to point the finger a little bit at broadcast because i feel like in the newspaper industry, weve all done full take stories on this but just because, like byron said, of the salacious nature and because of the fact that the clinton people are really actively holding back their surrogates, broadcast has been dominated today by the trump tapes and you have the audio that you could play back. It makes for a visual and an audio show. And so that is what has been happening today. But had that not happened, the wikileaks story would be clintons october surprise and wed be going over point by point and discussing just the nature of the different emails that were exchanged here. From the Clintons Campaign<\/a> perspective, there is a lot buried. They wanted to get out that this wikileaks is the russians doing this to them and theyve been unable to communicate that. And what they are not saying, heidi, is that these emails and the documents that were contained in them are fake. They are not denying them. And there is one in particular that hasnt been publicized much, a strategy memo from inside of the clinton camp which talks about how to get good stories going, going back to 2015 about the Clinton Campaign<\/a>. Let me quote from one of those. Quote, we have a very Good Relationship<\/a> with Maggie Haberman<\/a> of politico, she is now with the New York Times<\/a> over the last year. Weve had her tee up stories for us before and we have never been disappointed. And while we should have a larger conversation in the near future about a broader strategy for reengaging the beat press that we think we can achieve our objective and do the most shaping by going to maggie. And she did put out a statement regarding her. And i could read it here. This is from the National Politics<\/a> editor. Quote, maggie is a brilliant and skup lusly fair reporter who is trusted by people from all sides of the political debate and any suggestion otherwise is just false. Byron, your thoughts about this this excerpt and that strategy memo. Well, it doesnt look very good for the reporter involved because it said they wanted a friendly reporter and somebody who has come through for us in the past and teed up stories for us in the past and they were looking for a piece about the launch to show what a careful, thoughtful process Hillary Clinton<\/a> was going through and in deciding to run for president. The other thing is this memo could reappear in the campaign because Maggie Haberman<\/a> with the times does a lot of lead coverage on the Trump Campaign<\/a>. And of course, the Trump Campaign<\/a> could say here is safe reporter who is deemed so friendly to the Clinton Campaign<\/a>, that they wanted her to do their big rollout story and now she is covering trump and were supposed to get fair coverage. I think youll see it as a basis for some complaints from the Trump Campaign<\/a> about the New York Times<\/a> specifically. Heidi, do you want to comment on this . Yeah. I think brit, that we should let the viewers in on one of the worst kept secrets in washington which is that all campaigns shop for reporters and they shop for papers when they are about to make a major launch like the Hillary Clinton<\/a> campaign was. It wasnt a campaign at this point when the memo was drafted in january of 2015. The New York Times<\/a>, to all of our chagrin, gets a disproportionate number of the scoops because of their reach. And in terms of the never disappointed us, it could just mean that maggie writes a richly reported story, which is why the Trump Campaign<\/a> shes been getting so many scoops out of trump tower as well. Right. And byron makes a point. I hate to cut you off but we have to go here. But yeah. I dont know how damaging it is to her. Okay. Getting so many trump schools. That is a good point. Well made. Thanks to both of you. Donald trump may have laid out his game plan tonight and may take aim at bill clinton. Karl rove and joe trippy respond next. Ent. Make sure its an intelligent one. The highly advanced audi a4, with available virtual cockpit. Ive never been 1 in anything until i put these babies on. Now were on a winning streak and im never taking them off. Do i know where im going . Absolutely. Were going to the playoff. 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It allows him to set the argument out there to grab a lot of attention that will compete with the results of the debate tonight but i think this is very problematic. The issue is not did bill clinton did bad things. We know that. He is not on the ballot. She is and he has to put to bed the questions about his vulgarity and his vulgar and offensive and wrongheaded comments. Joe this doesnt help do that. And joe, your thoughts. I think this is a mistake. Even before just even if it is just the press conference or the press availability here. He cant do this in my view without having apologized for his own behavior, clearly and sincerely and with some contrition. And to go on the offensive on this is i just without that, without contrition and then even as carl and i were talking earlier, i still think this is the mistake. Be contrite and then move to real issues that people care about. Where he has some real differences with Hillary Clinton<\/a> that he could that he could make that divide contrast positively for himself. This isnt going to do that. This keeps bringing it back to him and if there are more do we have the audio. And if there are more, it is going to be bad. We are almost at the one hour countdown for tonights president ial debate from st. Louis. Stay with fox news all night long. More to come. Stay with us. Man dear mr. Danoff, my wife and i are now participating in your mutual fund. We invested in your fund to help us pay for a College Education<\/a> for our son. Weve enclosed a picture of our son so that you can get a sense there are real people out here trusting you with their hardearned money. At fidelity, we dont just manage money, we manage peoples money. Even if youre trying your best. Be a daily struggle, along with diet and exercise, oncedaily toujeo\u00ae may help you control your blood sugar. Get into a daily groove. Lets groove tonight. 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Mr. Trump might have said some bad words, but bill clinton raped me and Hillary Clinton<\/a> threatened me. I dont think there is any comparison. At 12 years old, hillary put me through something that youve never put a 12yearold through. And she said shes for women and children, and she was asked last year on what happened, and she said she [ inaudible ] and now she is [ inaudible ]. Carl cameron is back with us. Does this suggest that it is inevitable he will bring this up during the debate. Yes. It appears pretty obvious. And at one point in the last few days trump suggested that he might put those very same women in the audience in order to play some sort of sigh ops on clinton and that is possible as well. And this has caused consternation for the National Republican<\/a> committee here at the debate and one of the things i was just told by a senior official in the Republican National<\/a> committee, depending on how things go, there may be very serious decisions made by financing. There is talking about whether the rnc might shut off the money that and dedicate it toward down ballot candidates. That is what is being discussed. Thanks, carl. That is it for us tonight. And Oreilly Factor<\/a> is up next. And well be back here at 7 00 tomorrow night and hope you will be too and the analysis continues now with my colleague bill oreilly. Bill . Hi, im bill oreilly. Thanks for watching this sunday night edition. And a lot going on. Is the president ial race crushing the spirit of you, the american public. That is the subject of this evenings talking points. No matter who wins the white house, tens of millions of voters will be angry. 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