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FOXNEWSW On The Record With Greta Van Susteren August 22, 2014 23:00:00

That is it for this special report. Fair, balanced and unafraid. Dont forget, Chris Wallace with what promises to be a big show this weekend. Take a look at that. Greta goes on the record right now. Golf. Yep. Thats a golf ball. And tonight even the New York Times is talking about golf because it seems even that liberal newspaper that twice endorsed president obama in 2008, and 2012, just cant take it anymore. The criticism right on page 1. Above the fold. Yes, the president teeing off. Not so much on isis but on the golf course. And the most vicious, wellfunded well formed group sets its sights on america. President obama hit the link for another round of golf. The contrasting images spark criticism of president obama from the left and the right. Washington examiner betsy woodruff. Washington examiner susan ferrechio. Even the New York Times is hammering about this. Thats the tipping point. At this point if i were to guess whats happening behind closed doors is, that obamas circle is telling him its time to look like you are doing some work. I is coming back to washington on sunday. As planned. Not early. And he came back for a couple meetings this week. Which we still cant find out what he was doing. He also went to a Wedding Party when he was back here this week as we talked about earlier. So, i think, you know, they are getting the message. He needs the golf is just a symptom of a problem. The golf is not the problem. The president s golf. The look of detachment and just position of his actions when it seems like the middle east is falling apart and american brutally killed. What is the president doing . It looks like he is he just recreating and not really taking his job seriously. Part of a larger pattern of disengagement. Thats a bigger proper. Any democrats disserved by this . We havent seen any democratic lawmakers out there. There have been across the board some frustration with what has been a trend, exactly of detachment. We have seen him sort of step in to situations and not give his forceful comments as he previously did. There was frustration over how he handled ferguson from some democrats. To the extent to which, you know, we see a repeated lack of enthusiasm, thats a problem for the president. Do they do any polling on this . As susan said, probably discussion behind closed doors. Im not sure where there could be any doubt because of the gravity of whats going on in the world. What do you think is going on in the white house about this. I have no idea. Cherry on the top g. O. P. John kerry spotted on vacation at home in nantucket. Everyone is out to lunch. Let me defend john kerry because, you know, he has at least been on the road around the clock and, you know, we dont see him out golfing. Fair point. And he also doesnt leave just before talking to the family of a beheaded journalist. That is certainly on his side. The point is that the optics here are just abysmal. I think it was 10 years ago that last month that then candidate obama gave a speech at the dnc pushing for candidate kerry to be president that made him a National Political figure. The reason that speech was so effective because it was so emotionally resonate. Its amazing the change just in terms of Emotional Intelligence or at least emotional intuitiveness that we have seen in the last 10 years. Really astonishing. How does the white house spin this as a good time. They talk about it as the president needing to first of all, that he is on the job all the time. That his work comes with him. Not like is he in nantucket not working. He has his advisors with him in vineyard. Mistaking the two vacations. Is he working while he is on vacation the idea that the president s job is so stressful the idea of having to deal with the families of someone who just had been murdered and all the violence that he needs to blow off some steam on the golf course. Thats also very stressful for the American People. Its very stressful for the family. He wanted the job. He fought very hard for the job not like we feel sorry for him oh he works so hard. He is not showing that is he cow tailing to terrorists. Going on with business as planned and fun as planned. Thats a way to show strength on the National Stage when he really is facing a crisis. Thats an argument that you can make. At the end of the day im not sure it sells especially since he lost the New York Times. That argument totally makes sense but when the New York Times above the fold says you are messing up 00 the optics. Jeez, didnt look very good picture of him in the golf carted after getting off the phone. I think they got the message to that. I dont think we will see that again. Prime minister cammeron coming off his holiday. Im surprise weed didnt hear from the president today went hiking with his wife. At least is he is not on the golf course. There is that anyway, panel, thank you. And its not just here at home. What kind of message is president obama sending to the rest of the world as he plays golf . British Prime Minister as we just noted David Cammeron cutting his vacation short to deal with isis. Former u. N. John bolton joins us. Good evening, sir, what kind of message does it send the world and does it matter if the world sees the New York Times and people here in america troubled that the president is out playing golf as isis beheads an american . I dont think they are worried that he is playing golf. People talk about playing optics. I would leave optics to the on opticians. The issue here is substance. The president for five and a half years has not cared about measure national security. He treats it when he is supposed forced to. Even when he is forced to he walks away from it the message it sends to leaders around the world its the same barack obama who hasnt paid attention adequately during his entire presidency. Doesnt that Say Something that someone you look to for sort of leadership in the world, like the United States, and then, i mean, i imagine that angela merkel, chancellor of germany, she wants to look to the United States as sort of being a leader on these things and so does the british Prime Minister. And they pick up the newspaper and its ladi da. There he goes again. A weak inattentive president. Address this question that you can lead the free world from march thats vineyard. The fact is unless you are in washington surrounded by all the aides on the bridge. You cant take advantage of all the resources of the presidency. Tag what he should be doing requires a lot of hard work, hour after hour after hour. Including communicating most importantly, what is our objective here with isis . What does he want to achieve . I think our objective should be the destruction of isis because it cant be contained or deterred. Whats Barack Obamas objective . Has he told us . He doesnt know yet. He referred he said contained on monday, which is shocking, you know, that he just wants to contain it i want to destroy it too. If you go back to january, he says its jv. But then isis is jv and then today he has got the spokesman over at the pentagon saying well, a lot has happened since we are now in august. But back in january, when he was calling it jv, they had taken fallujah, which, in 2004, was our biggest battle in iraq. We lost 9 a. They had already taken fallujah by the time he made the jv comment. Because the president the is wedded to the ideological obsession that there is no war on terror. Al qaeda is on the road to defeat. Usama bin laden is dead. That was their argument. And it fits into the ideological argument that we dont need a war on terror. Its a Law Enforcement matter. And so the entire weight of the United States is the Justice Department is now consists of an fbi investigation of what happened to james foley. Thats their idea of how to deal with it, within the criminal law. Its fundamentally wrong. And i dont think it is sellable politically in this country for what its worth which is the only thing the president seems to care about. Whats the big difference between having a Law Enforcement and having an ideology or military except for the resources use to try to ferret it it out and get rid of it . You are an n. An entirely different legal paradigm. Among other things. Operating under the war. Entitled to do case of war. As a criminal defense attorney you know thats not something you can do to the people who beheaded him if you are going to read the miranda rights, give them due process, insist on a chain of custody for the evidence and the rest of it there this is a real divide between obama, the Justice Department, and his click. I think the entire rest of the American People see this as war. I see problem is you pibleg up the culprit who did it but then you turn your back on the other ones running to replace him in a war you take everybody out who is going to it try to do this. It also misses the key fact that the real application of military power is intended to deter the crime. Not to worry about prosecuting somebody after it occurs. And thats why i think the objective here has to be the destruction of isis. So, rather than talking about tactics or there are going to be boots on the ground. Are we going to use drones. First, you have to decide what your objective is this is the basis of strategy. Then, once do you that assemble an International Coalition and go and do it. Do you not think, in my wildest dreams, i cant imagine he doesnt think we should get rid of isis, they are beheading people. I tell you, like secretary kerry said years ago, we are never going to get victory over the terrorists. We just want to reduce it to a low grade threat. I fundamentally reject that i think most americans do, too. Now we should have a debate over it. Ambassador, thank you, sir. Thank you. More grave disappointment with the Obama Administration. Tonight we are hearing from the brother beheaded american journalist james foley, he says the Obama Administration did not do enough to bring his brother home alive. Including paying a ransom. The United States could have done more on behalf of the western and american hostages over there and still dealt with the broader worldwide issues and other nations have done that thats a source of frustration from me. The New York Times above the fold reads a terrorist horror and then golf. The president hitting the links during a time of crisis. Joining us senator john mccain. Good evening, senator. I know that this is not about optics, its far more serious the president during the white house Correspondence Dinner was ordering the takedown of usama bin laden. However, the American People are scared. They have seen the beheading, they know about the terrorism is is the president showing the concern he should for the American People . I hope that he is and i hope its just an optics problem. I hope what the president would do is review the series of grave errors that he has made which has led up to the situation that we were in, not leaving residual force behind in iraq which he could have done and bragged about the fact that we didnt during the 2012 campaign overrecalling his Security Team including Hillary Clinton when they recommended stepping up and giving aid and assistance to the Free Syrian Army ba shad assad crossed a red line. Destroyed american credibility in the region there is a series of mistakes that i hope that the president realize which has led us to his secretary of defense, recognizing this is a direct threat to the United States of america. I know this is not a game. This is not a big i told you so. In 2008, when you said that we would need to leave troops in iraq for a very long time, you got mocked by president obama candidate obama and by Hillary Clinton. You are the one that wanted to take care of the Free Syrian Army and to arm them and, again, that was dismissed. Tell me what is your strategy today in light of where we are are . First of all if the president will develop a strategy we will support it so far there is no strategy. Four things we need to do immediately. One is to have a reconciliation between sunni and she a in baghdad with the new government. Give give military aid to the kurds using old russian equipment. They will fight and fight well but they need the equipment to do it it massively increase our assistance to the Free Syrian Army and air strikes that go to syria because there is no boundary between syria and iraq today hard and often and incrementally is not the way it do it. Isis has carried out a threat against james foley which many of us have seen on a video or seen the pictures of and is beyond words. Do you think that theyre here in the United States and i dont want to be an alarmist but i have seen what they have done. Could i mention that i have now been named by isis as number one enemy and crusader and im extremely proud of that in their online propaganda. There is no doubt in my mind with the number of europeans and about is hundred americans are the estimates. And people have all over the world. Who have been radicalized are now fighting in syria. Are gonna come back to the countries that they came from the case of europe, they dont need a visa to come to the United States. As you know there was a Young American that thought in syria, radicalized came back to the United States and came back to syria and blew himself up as suicide bomber. That is probably one of the factors that has cause for this dramatic turn around by ourselves and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff for years i have been arguing with the chairman of the chairman of joint chiefs of staff we ought to take the position or strategy did you think secretary hagels statement was stronger than the president s about this . Did you get that sense . I think it was much stronger the president s statement on the tragedy plaintiff foley, they are very strong statements. But where is the strategy . In other words, its incredible because they are now warning us about how horrible the enemy is and how dangerous it is is they have articulated no strategy that i know of. And obviously part of that is going to have to be a number of additional American Forces in iraq, not for combat purposes, but to help the iraqis in this conflict if they are going to take back this territory, they are going to have to have a lot of american help. Second of all, greta, its not a matter of stopping isis. We have to defeat isis and we have it to take them out with whatever means possible. The fact that the Administration Made public that there had been a rescue attempt will harm further rescue attempts because good journalists will be finding out additional details, which then gives methods and capabilities over to the enemy and isis in particular, so, further rescue attempts will be complicated and more difficult because this administration, for whatever reason, whatever motive, made it known that they had made an attempt to rescue these people and it is not a valid excuse to say that news organizations were on the story. We could have denied it. You know, its funny. I had a different reaction to that and its no secret i dont have a military background. I have never been in any leadership in the military. But i actually thought that it sends a message to isis know what . We are going to get you where you are and coming for you. I had a different thought. I actually was happy to hear about that and i think that i would hope that maybe it would scare some of them because we are coming for them. The best way to sandy message to isis is through ordinance dropped on their heads and blowing them to smither reasons, blowing them straight to hell where they belong. Of course, there is also the fact that our intelligence was so bad is that we showed up when nobody was there which is beyond me, that the intelligence gathering that that could happen. Anyway, im taking the last word on that. Senator, nice to see you. Thank you for joining us. Thank you, greta. And you can see the rest of our interview with senator john mccain. Go to gretawire. Com. And straight ahead, brace yourself, a warning, representative peter king warning isis is stronger and richer than al qaeda was right before 9 11. Representative king goes on the record next. 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