Then in august the World Health Organization declaring the epidemic to be Public Health emergency of international concern. What did the Obama Administration do many say nothing or at best the white house is very slow to do anything. Tonight we have Live Team Coverage with all the ebola developments. Galveston, texas, awaiting cruise ship, carrying Quarantine Lab worker from Presbyterian Health hospital. She was in a lab with ebola samples just days before boarding the ship. Andrea watkins joins us live. Andrea, tell me whats going on with this ship and this passenger . All right, greta. Well, as far as we know, this use cruise ship called the magic from carnival crews lines is going to be docking on sunday. Thats actually the scheduled docking day. But they headed home a little bit early because cozumel refused to allow them to doc today. The cruise line said they learned Late Wednesday from the cdc that there was a patient on board that had been in contact with contaminated medical waste from dallas presbyterian. That is where the ebola patient Thomas Duncan passed away. The medical worker was selfmonitoring at the time she boarded the ship on sunday, but apparently she didnt tell the crews line that now, carnival says the woman is now quarantine on the ship even though she hasnt shown any signs or symptoms of having ebola. Right now she is 19 days into that crucial 21day incubation period. So the cdc considers her at very low risk of ever contracting the disease, but nobody is taking any chances. Belize did not allow her or her husband to get off the ship. Then the surprise this morning came when cozumel would not even allow the ship to dock. That puts the rest of the passengers maybe disappointed what you could say. They were tweeting they were stuck outside of cozumel but carnival is offering them 200 credit on their account and auto off the next crews cruise line. Whether or not things are really strained on the ship we will find out sunday when it docks here. If the ship was over here at this port, you would be able to see its a massive ship, of course, on my other shoulder, over here is utmv galveston, they are the best when it comes to infectious diseases. Research and doctors here. They say that they are ready if indeed its necessary to take this patient in across the street from the cruise ship. They will take her in for observation. Right now they havent had to do anything medically for this patient because she is not presented with any symptoms whatsoever. Back to you, greta . Andrea, thank you. Of course this woman is 19 days into the 21 days which he we understand the to be the cut off. Wait until you hear this. Did you know there is a special ebola screening machine, the military uses it in africa. Believe it or not, the dallas hospital at the center of the ebola crisis has one, too. So why arent they using it . And why didnt they use it on mr. Duncan when he first showed up at the hospital on september 19th when ebola type symptoms . Patrick tucker joins us. Nice to see you. Thank you. What is this machine . Its called a film ray, from a Company Called biofire. Its about toaster size. You take a sample, you stick it in there after about an hour its going to tell you what you have got. It depends on what kit you arm it with. Right now the f. D. A. Has approved the use of this machine for detecting certain types of illnesses like listeria, types of influenza. If you want to use it to detect ebola, you have to get a special kit for ebola. Like a Little Software pac. The thing is though this dallas hospital, though they had the machine, they werent authorized to use it to screen for ebola because it wasnt a researchuse only machine. According to the f. D. A. Guidelines. Did they have the software . I understand there are two considerations here. Whether they had the software to make it so they could test for ebola is the first thing. Seconds thing whether the machine was capable. And then, of course, the other is a designation. Could it have done it . If they had the software, they did not. So you have to designate the machine as researchonly. You call get you the software kit immediately. They are very up on this. That is just a fedex exchange be that needs to happen. They didnt have the kit. You have to change your designation in order to get it then once they had that it would have taken an hour to properly diagnose. What designation it had in this hospital . Well, its a clinical diagnostic machine. You use it. But if you say its only for research, you vkdz looked for ebola . Exactly. If you tell the f. D. A. Were only going to use this for research, then you can use it to actually take care of parents that might have ebola. If you want to use it to, you know, clinically diagnose listeria and not for treating ebola patients, then it gets to retain its clinical diagnosis status. You agree thats a little nutty only one. Pretty crazy. Patrick, thank you. The first dallas nurse infected with ebola nina pham is now in the d. C. Area. She arrived on a specially equipped private jet last night and now being treated at the National Institutes of health. Catherine herridge is live at nih with the very latest. Catherine . Thanks, greta. Thats right. Nina pham is being treated here at the National Institutes of health. Before heading to maryland, the dallas hospital released a video where pham thanked them for their care and they thanked her for volunteering to help Thomas Duncan, the first ebola case to die in the u. S. Really proud of you. After the threehour flight, doctors here at the nih, told reporters that pham was well enough to walk off the jet and on to the ambulance. But they described the transfer as extremely taxing and draining for pham who tonight is described to be in fair condition. The nih also provided this photo to reporters today of the Isolation Unit where pham is being treated while at the same time, he they are gathering data to better understand the virus, whether its mutated and the best way to treat symptoms. Bizarre episode at the pentagon today, a woman claiming to be a defense contractor who had recently traveled to liberia got on a shuttle bus, then said she felt sick and got off and threw up. This created a lot of investigation here in washington, d. C. This afternoon over whether the people on the bus should be quarantined and whether the First Responders should also be tested. But our contacts tonight tell us once they got that woman to the hospital, and they got on the path to testing her for ebola, she quickly revealed that she had made the entire story up, greta. Catherine, that falls under the headline never dull. Thank you, catherine. And the nations new socalled ebola czar ron is a former chief of staff to Vice President biden and Obama White House advisor. Now has many asking why did president obama chose political owe pointee instead of medical expert to lead the fight. Joining us is bob cusack, the Washington Post jackie kucinich, and the chief Political Correspondent byron york. I dont know why we needed a czar. I would have been happy to have the secretary at the cabinet level burr well do it but anyway i dont get to make that call, how about ron klein. If they did choose one, why did they choose one without any medical experience . Its a big question mark. The white house says they did it because he has extensive managerial experience. They have pointed to the fact that he was in Vice President bidens office when the administration was handing out billions and billions of dollars in the stimulus which worked across a bunch of government agencies. They have point that to as his main experience. Is that transferable to dealing with ebola . I just dont know. The last problem is he doesnt report to the president himself. He reports to the Top National Security bureaucracy. You wonder if its adding another layer into this so far bureaucracy. I dont know if you wonder. I think its practically a given that adding another layer. Jackie, your thought on this . He knows how to navigate the bureaucracy and they trust him. Trust is a big deal to this particular white house. I think thats another reason why. Navigate bureaucracy how to deal with all these hospitals and patients. Also a bureaucracy in a way. So, and also he has a relationship with the hill, which is he worked for biden when he was at the Senate Judiciary committee as well. Also someone who knows how to navigate those personalities as well which they are not too good at. Sounds to me they are hiring a baseball player to play football own weekends. Unusual pic, administration prerogative if he doesnt do welling we will still be talking about this issue. I did think they need to bring somebody in because at thpress conference this week on the second patient in dallas, there was no one from the federal government at that press conference. Thats outrageous. We have people, we have a cabinet level. Hhs secretary. When we had the anthrax scare we had Tommy Thompson who took charge. Whats wrong with having secretary burwell do it. Maybe furwell but frieden has lost credibility. He said hospitals are equipped to do this clearly wrong. Fine, get burwell. At the white house News Conference this week josh earnst said this is before the appointment of cain said that the National Security advisor was i understand grating the response. Does that mean she is in charge . He said no not really. He listed all these other agencies. He said is there any one person in charge you . Would expect him to answer the president of the United States and he didnt. I wouldnt expect him because on august 11st, this is what the president said about ebola. I wouldnt be surprised he cant answer that question. On august 1st he said in part, keep in mind ebola is not something that is easily transmitted. Thats why generally outbreaks dissipate. Not easily transmitted, hows come people in hazmat suits dr. Brantly got ebola. On august 1st he doesnt even think its very con teenagous. Contagious. Dont they all know that . It seems like this is a political move. In a lot of ways, to say okay, look, we are bringing in someone else who is just going to handle it. Bring in dr. Tom coburn, u. S. Senate, bring in a republican who might at least put down some of the temperature on the political. Thats a lot of the criticism that you are hearing, someone with some medical experience. Burr well has got to deal with obamacare so she has her hands full already. You arent appalled by this choice . I think its an unusual pick. Unusual or appalled . Lets see how he does. This is a Political Choice. One operative today told the New York Times that klain would help with messaging and turning down the political heat on that. It is inconceivable to me that we are talking about making Political Choices when many in the nation, whether rightfully or wrongfully terrified of ebola. Inconceivable that everyone in washington is stepping all over each other adding to the bureaucracy and picking someone with no experience. Maybe its just me. Its the mid terms so close. Sometimes, you know, if we were a little bit smarter. In fact if we paid attention to the World Health Organization in march, we wouldnt have this problem. Best way to deal with the politics of this is to deal with the substance of it successfully and show that a5. you are on top of things. Indeed, thank you, panel. There is growing outrage over the cdcs ebola response. Many americans are wondering how at risk healthcare workers were allowed to board cruise ships, tom frieden saying from now on no one involved in Thomas Duncans care will be able to traveled uncontrolled environment meaning public transportation. John mccain joins us. Good evening, sir. Good evening. Your thought tonight . We have a cruise ship, bus in washington. Questionable things going on right now. People traveling on airplanes. What should would he be doing . First thing we should be doing is declaring that anyone in one of those countries now afflicted with ebola, if they want to come to the United States, they should be quarantined for 21 days and then given a blood test there should be no one coming from those countries to the United States of america unless we are absolutely sure that they have not been tainted by ebola. Until we do that in my view, we are putting the American People in danger. And i would also like to say that the appointment of mr. Klain who has no experience whatsoever on this or any other medical issue as a lobbyist and a democrat frankly does not fill the bill for a czar and the capabilities because he has no experience or knowledge or background in medicine. I know that you were or you are in favor of a czar. Maybe not mr. Klain. I disagree with that and im curious if you think im wrong. Thats sort of the job of the secretary of hhs. Tommy thompson was the secretary anthrax scare. We do have someone with that job. Now that we have a czar we introduce a whole new bureaucracy. Turf wars warning who is supposed to do what. Already have a cabinet level person, a secretary of hhs who answers to the president. Why do we need a czar . For weeks now no one in charge. Largely the secretary of hhs, Sylvia Burwell very capable individual. There was nobody. Thats why some of us said, look, who is in charge . Put somebody in charge could have made her the czar. The American People need to look to someone who has the knowledge expertise background can assure them we are taking the measures necessary. And frankly i dont think mr. Klain fits the bill as a partisan democrat. Certainly not in any effort to address this issue in a bipartisan fashion. Back in march, the World Health Organization roared a a rash of case of ebola the worst ever seen in africa. We have done something maybe he wouldnt have come here to the United States. I think one thing that is very clear we have been reassured quite honestly falsely. We were ahead of the cdc that ebola wouldnt come to the United States of america. Now there is allegation that this come called the dc saying i have got a temperature can i fly on a an airplane . They say go ahead. Thats what happens when you have a lack of leadership and discipline and that isnt just this issue. Its the irs, its the secret service, frankly, its also our entire approach to the situation in the middle east and this iraq and syria which continues to deteriorate. Is there anybody who believes that what were doing now will degrade and destroy isis . I dont know of anyone. All right. So, i guess that you havent named the person but do you believe the blame squarely falls on president obama being sort of, you know, slow to react to these crises . Of course. But he has been slow to every one. What leaders are supposed to be. I hearken back to ronald reagan. Ronald reagan would have been on National Television looking in the camera and saying my fellow americans we are facing a crisis here and here is what i am doing because im in charge. Here are the people that you can look to. From there is ways of addressing crises and it requires, first of all, president ial leadership. That has been missing throughout the last six years. Disheartening that we knew from the World Health Organization and apparently got no attention until it has now exploded all over us. Hopefully this is the end of it and its not going to get bigger. Senator, thank you. Who has he chosen to be the ebola czar in you wonder . Go to gretawire. Com and hear his answer. Charles krauthammer says the u. S. Government still steps behind the ebola virus. That sounds very grim since ebola moves very fast. Charles krauthammer goes on the record next. Plus, tonight there is ebola vaccine being tested on humans. We are going to take you inside that Government Lab where its being done, a tour you will only get right here on the record coming up. And, of course, everyone is asking about bentley he is nurse nina phams dog. Is he in quarantine, too. See how bentley is doing for yourself. Stay tuned. Nurse nina pham is being called taking care of dying slamming the Obama Administration cdc for handling the crisis. Im very surprised at the level i have to e have a well organized program to handle a crisis at this level. So is president obama leading or struggling to play catch up in response to the ebola crisis. Charles krauthammer says the u. S. Public Health Services remains steps behind the ebola virus and joining us charles krauthammer, author of things that matter a book that sold more than a million copies. Charles, slow to respond . Slow to respond and always behind. You hear the administration say a travel ban is not off the table. We have been hearing for weeks is a terrible idea it will make it worse. Its the most logical thing to do. British airways is not flying into these countries and it will be done. Only a question of time. On the other end of it where the cdc has been assuring us. You know how to handle. This we know how to trace contacts. Yes, but they dont know what to tell and handle the people once they have identified the context. You cant tell people as we are even now doing to selfquarantine. Ordinary people have no idea what that means. You have to have a government step in and i would say this is not a thing that we like to do. Override civil liberties. Were going to have to quarantine a lot of folks who have com