By the way, i feel like were four lucky ladies to have you. Can we get your thoughts on what veterans day means . Yeah, certainly. You know, i think its about reflection, remembrance and honoring those who served, to be sure. But, you know, our Founding Fathers promote a idea that no one in the history of mankind did, and that is were going to start a nation on a principle that everyones created equal. So we became the first democracy. Our soldiers fought to establish that democracy, and they have fought ever since to preserve the longest democracy in the history of the world. And our soldiers, they go to war, they dont want to die, to be sure, but what makes them different is that theyre willing to. And the fact of the matter is they are willing to give up everything they care about in life; the opportunity to have a full life, to be a parent, to have friends in their life, to have love in their life, to love and to be loved. And the fact of the matter is, they do that willingly. Why do they do it . Ive spent my entire adult life around this. They do it, in my judgment, out of a simple yet profound sense of duty, and they do it for one another. And this is true honor. And on this veterans day, i know we will ever, ever take this kind of devotion for granted. Were here to recognize that, were here to continue the awareness of what this truly means to us. General, thank you. Good way to get us started. I just want to hug you. Maybe after the show. You got it. Deal. [laughter] lets begin with the military ramping up in iraq. A team of about 50 american troops on the ground in iraqs Anbar Province which has been overrun by isis terrorists the pentagon is confirming those troops are checking out a u. S. Air base there in case it is needed for a larger contingent of military advisers and trainers to assist Iraqi Security forces. This as president obama has announced plans to potentially double the number of troops in iraq to more than 3,000 as u. S. Led efforts against isis entering what he calls a new phase. All the while insisting, as he has for some time now, that these troops will not have a combat role and will just be used as advisers. Watch. Commander in chief, i will not allow the United States to be dragged into fighting another war in iraq. Let me say it again [applause] american combat troops will not be returning to fight in iraq, i will not allow the United States to be dragged back into another ground war in iraq. I want the American People to understand how this effort will be different from the wars in iraq and afghanistan. It will not involve american combat troops fighting on foreign soil. Meanwhile, the white house says it will also ask congress for another 5. 6 billion to fund the fight against isis. But the president s critics say hes leading the u. S. In a its impossible to destroy a terrorist organization. But lets not gill over that because everyone knows the intent here is to defeat them. And thats the right path and the right words, finally. But the problem we have when you put together a strategy to do that, he set a major condition and restriction which is simply therell be no involvement of Ground Combat troops in combat. Once he made that decision, then were totally reliant on indigenous forces in iraq and in syria. And the fact of the matter is when you take a careful look at those indigenous forces an iraqi army thats 17 divisions, but only half of them are actually organized now after isis forced their collapse, peshmerga who need to be robustly armed and equipped and receive some training, sunni tribes who are waiting for reconciliation with this government, the new government in iraq that is, and also need arming and equipping, and the Free Syrian Army which is being devastated as we speak by assads barrel bombs. What do we have here . This is a very weak hand, and were reliant on this hand. Common sense tells you if you want to avoid the direct combat forces and youre going to use indigenous forces to do your ground fighting, then give them all the support they should, they need. Lets be all in. And were not all in. Were incremental. We need about 1015,000 advisers and trainers to assist front line combat forces. We need equipment to help them do their job. General, when you hear that the president is now asking 5. 6 million be released for fighting isis, and there is that criticism that it would be a blank check, what do you understand that money being spent for . Well, the money is being spent for the additional advisers and equipment that theyre going to need to conduct that operation. But when you look at it, hes not going to let the advisers go down with the front line units. That means the sunnis, the iraqis, the peshmerga will be out there by themselves. When theyre fighting with us, they do well. Not only that, those advisers would be special forces, and they would have the capability to bring in air power. And that is a very important dimension to be successful. But thats not going to happen, thats the problem they coordinate what theyre finding out on the grounder with the planes theyre an important conduit. Whats the difference between an adviser and a combat troop in kind of a group sense . They dont have a direct combat role, but they are with combat units and, obviously, they have the skill sets to protect themselves, but theyre not responsible for the actual closing with the enemy. So what he has authorized is Training Centers to be set up, and therell be advisers and trainers in those Training Centers. He is not permitting advisers to go down below the Brigade Headquarters level. The people that do the fighting are at battalion, company, platoon and squad. The lowest we would put an adviser is at battalion level, but hes not permitting that to happen. The military wants that to happen because they know this would enhance the effectiveness of this weak hand it drives morale i would imagine, too. What about the politics of this, ann andrea . I was going to ask the general, there are reports there is a strained relationship between the pentagon and the white house. I know youve been asked about this, and i also would love your thoughts, last week we talked about the report that president obama had sent a letter to the ayatollah in iran asking for his help with isis. General, this is very disturbing to me, that we would be reaching out to iran to help with isis. What does that tell you, if that report is true . Well, first of all, i dont think we need to be communicating with iran about dealing with a common enemy in isis. Iran is our strategic enemy in the region. They declared that in 1980, and they have been using their proxies to kill us ever since. This has been going on for 30 plus year yeah, why should we be fighting irans war . Why should we be doing their dirty work . They may have interest in the war, but this is our war. Yeah. We have isis crushing u. S. Vital interest in the middle east, destabilizing the middle east. Their caliphate and their ultimate design is to take over not just shiadominated governments, but sunnidominated governments. And, clearly, they also pose a threat to the United States. I dont think its imminent, but certainly its definitely possible when theyre able to consolidate their gains, and theyre certainly motivating people in other countries that identify with them to do some harm to their own citizens. So great to have you, general, on this veterans day. On this day as we honor those who have served our country, we are learning more about the planned restructuring of the department of veterans affairs. The changes, announced months after whistleblowers revealed officials had covered up long wait times for sick veterans. There will be more of a focus on Customer Service and simplifying the way the Agency Delivers health care. Secretary mcdonald has promised to discipline the employees involved in the scandal. Bill hemmer asked him about that. Bill i read that you want to fire a thousand people at the v. A. , how are you going to do that . Well, what ive said is weve got disciplinary actions in place against people who have violated our core values. We have 22 million veterans in this country, we serve 9 million veterans in our health care system, and what we want to do is we want to improve that system to better care for veterans. So in these sweeping changes, general, the v. A. Secretary has told the v. A. Employees, call me bob. Hes handed out his cell phone number even to reporters, said call me if theres any changes. Does this new Customer Service focus, sweeping changes announced, will they be enough, in your opinion . I dont think any of us know. I mean, heres what i think we do know, it appears the president s made a good selection. This guys got a good track record of leadership, and this huge bureaucracy, 152 medical centers, 1400 clinics out there, 300,000 people that work for him, 164 million budget a year, this is huge federal bureaucracy. So thats going to take strong leadership. Hes displaying so far right attitude, passion, hes displaying a sense of commitment. He has proven in the past he has the skill sets to run a large organization. He has, well have to wait and see if hes capable of being effective. I was going to say, wait to see if theres actual accountability. He says he plans disciplinary action against a thousand v. A. Employees. Isnt that the question, so many veterans kennedy, youve been covering this story too are just whereupon set until they upset until they see some kind of accountability. Shinseki, obviously, out and mcdonalds in, but will they get that chose your . The veterans ive spoken to dont expect to see changes anytime soon, and weve also spoken to whistleblowers who say its worse now for white house l blowers than it was before. My estimation would be this new secretary doesnt want to be embarrassed. Thats someone elses problem, and he definitely wants to move forward, and i think hes got good intentions. The biggest problem is these veterans dont have any other alternative. Weve got a veteran on our staff who has to get regularly checked because hes a cancer survivor, and hes beholden to the system, and he has no other choices where to go should he need treatment again in the future, and that is a disgrace. One of the things app drink ya brought andrea brought up yesterday was the idea of having, you know, a parallel system for our veterans, so you have whats established there, but then you have a voucher system thats set up. I would volunteer, certainly, if we could earmark our own taxes, id give my taxpayer dollars to do that, to set up some sort of subsidiary where they can take a voucher and go in and see a specialist. Its already been found with Current Research that our military members are twice as likely to get als, and that takes constant and very expensive care. So to have a parallel system like andrea talked about is important. The general mentioned these two very important words which is i dont think were going to get change, and that is huge bureaucracy. I think its great that this new Department Head is being more responsive and probably making some good personnel decisions, but this is at its core a government monopoly that has no competition, no incentive for better cower or Quality Service care or Quality Service, and both parties are at fault because they claim to have the veterans in their best interests, and behind closed door meetings its about money. The bottom line is the bottom dollar. And until we actually set up charter hospitals for these veterans which they deserve and have the private sector contribute. I mentioned wall street yesterday, sandra, like with charter schools, these veterans are not going to get the care they deserve because government fails every time. I like your words of on the much, general, that optimism, general. These veterans discuss the best care possible. New obamacare glitches already predicted ahead of the Enrollment Period that starts this weekend. The Video Services showing one of the architects behind the law calling americans u stupid, saying thats why it passed. Also a Student Group at Virginia Tech loses funding after hosting a controversial event on illegal immigration. Was the school right to cut the funding, or was it suppressing an important discussion . And right after the show catch more from the couch on the web, join us for outnumbered overtime by logging on to foxnews. 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Her remarks coming just hours after hhs officials lowered overall enrollment expectations from 13 million to 9. 9 million signups, all this as the shocking new video surfaces showing one of the architects of the Health Care Law making some severelydamaging remarks during a panel event last year. Transparency is a huge political advantage, and basically, you know, call it the stupidity of the American Voter or whatever, but basically that was really, really critical to getting this thing to pass. The stupidity of the American Voter was critical to getting obamacare passed, sandra. [laughter] wow. Yeah, no, i mean, this is going to be a very telling time for obamacare and whether or not were going to see it, you know, repealed. The signups are in question right now, theyre on track to be below the cbo expectations. This is going to be an extremely telling time. I think i said it yesterday, not only are we going to see new signups, but youre going to see those who signed up resignup, and secretary burwell saying there are going to be some snafus along the way. Those are going to be extremely create side sized and not criticized and not let go. Now, this guy who made these comments, jon gruber, former adviser on romneycare in massachusetts is the same guy who said the subsidies law with the exchanges that the Supreme Court is going to hear he said was intentional. The same guy that set up the exchanges intentionally to get states to take up obamacare. The hubris and the hypocrisy, its so maddening and so sickening, but hes absolutely wrong. It doesnt speak to the stupidity of the American Voter, it speaks to the brilliance of the American Voter, because were this process more transparent from the moment that it was conceived until that baby was born into an unwilling household, i think you would have certainly seen a more brilliant electorate speak up and demand the failure of this legislation that was just shoe horned through, and it has been filled with lies from its inception. General keane other than that, i think its great. [laughter] i was going to say. Tell us how you really feel about it, kennedy. By the way, can i say one quick thing . Yeah. The apple iphone 6 came out, and the apple site was inundated from people around the world it did not crash. Well, no, it did for about 20 minutes. You didnt hear tim cook saying were going to have some glitches, and i hope everything works out. Right. Theyve had how long to fix the federal exchange. General keane, a lot of republicans ran on obamacare, i should say against obamacare in this last election. You open any newspaper, the headlines are still bad. Premiums are going up, deductibles are huge, average families are having to turn to charity care to pay for health care. Its been a mess. Yeah, its really dis dis appointing. It underscores what the legislature had to know, the fact that this was a tax, and it just narrowly passed. I think every democrat voted for it and just about every republican was against it. But the fact is nobody was truly explaining it to the American People in concrete terms the way they deserved to explain it to them. I think thats whats disappointing. When i see this kind of thing happening when people are not being honest with the American People, that is really outrageous. Harris, was that an honest statement though . It seemed like the one window of honesty he seems rather transparent. I would say two things are troubling or at least should have you scratching your heated, and one is that