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A news show featuring the top headlines of the day from pop culture to politics, which are discussed by a rotating panel of four women and one man. Union and the president has to go in there. I dont know what the outcome is going to be but if he loses, it will be very bad for republicans. He went on that note, this is what congressman peter king thought about his appeal to voters. Rankandfile people, they identify with President Trump. Hes able to connect with them. He cuts through a lot of the washington talk and strikes a very responsive chord. So hes out there, people may not agree with everything he says, the fact is he is able to connect and its a ability to have paid Judge Napolitano i dont like anybody can dispute what congressman king just said. The race is going to be decided not by the base of republicans. Jessica , we cant dispute the president s ability to connect when hes having a rall rally. Troy balderson is an interesting republican because he has trump in case it can endorse rarely happens. He was on the sunday shows yesterday and he pointed out actually that balderson didnt even invite him, that trump just said he was coming and then said i guess i should show up at this thing. So he was really going the more moderate route there because columbus is obviously a big liberal bastion there and he is trying to protect the suburbs were a lot of white women actually have been moving away from the president and independents are really where this race is going to be won. But Danny Oconnor is very similar to connor lam in the pennsylvania Special Election. Medicare for all. Judge napolitano prolife democrat like connor lam . Jessica we are all prosecond amendment, just for responsible. To be what i dont want to get off topic. Dagen this car just drove in a ditch. Melissa it is wonderful deniability to say i didnt even invite president trent, he just showed up. That would make moderates feel good while those who support President Trump would love to have President Trump there. Maybe there threading the needle dagen pelosi puppet, genius way to try to label Danny Oconnor, whoever he is. Because with connor lam, connor lam smartly distance himself from nancy pelosi because again it comes down to the numbers. And i pushed back, i dont think in a Special Election in a relatively wealthy district in ohio has anything to do with the way people will vote in Southern Virginia or North Carolina or any of these other areas. It is all about ask somebody in two weeks to won that Special Election in ohio. It is and about how people feel at home, particularly is not about independence, its about women. Its about how women and mothers eating at home feel about their pocketbook, feel about their family finances. Kennedy i want to ask you something about that really quick because i think youre right and thats what it boils down to you but where does the president put his weight . Does he continue to talk to the base and get them excited because its a very different strategy than trying to go for some of those independent voters and some of those educated suburban women. Dagen is not the talk, its a walk and hence the policies and what theyve actually produced in terms of Economic Growth in this country. I can go through all the numbers. Job growth on average this year every month is at a faster pace than it was last year. So it is about how people feel and is the numbers theyre putting up. And i will say this, lee carter who works for me did some testing and said enthusiasm has gained among republicans in the last month but also independents are maintaining support because of many of trumps policies. Judge napolitano shows up uninvited and loses come hes going to feel the sting. Melissa he never feels the sting. Jessica the republicans will file for him. Dagen is going to turn around and say nancy pelosi in every single democrat in washington, you know that tax cut that almost everybody in his country has felt . They didnt vote for it. So they dont get credit for it. What are they going to do, raise your taxes if you put them in n the house . Jessica a few points there, i believe nationally speaking the independents are actually starting to move away from republicans towards democrats. They are part of that Enthusiasm Gap that is shifting and Danny Oconnor has been adamantly against nancy pelosi. If you look at his twitter bio, it actually says we need a new generation of leadership. He is following the connor lam thing there. He was pushed and pushed about whether he would support your leadership again. Kennedy is at the very loud progressives going to talk about later in the show could generate so much enthusiasm but the Unintended Consequences of their policies will lead the country. Dagen all republicans are toothless smelly people at walmart. Kennedy the Trump Administration at midnight tonight reimposing the first stage of an economic sanctions against iran after President Trump pulled out of the nuclear ligament stop back calling at the worst agreement ever negotiated. Ambassador john bolton see me already seeing u. S. Pressure impacting irans economy and regime. Watch. Weve already seen some of the implications, the pressure on the iranian economy is significant, the value of its currency is going through the floor, we have seen public reporting of massive flights of capital out of iran, the elites are getting nervous, we continue to see demonstrations and riots in cities and towns all around. Kennedy the president this weekend saying the ball is in irans court waiting i read in this economy is going very bad and fast. I will meet or not me. It doesnt matter, its up to them. Meantime the European Union and u. S. Allies Great Britain france and germany announcing what they call a blocking statute to take effect tuesday. That would protect european firms continue to do business with iran. So what do we do here . Are there sanctions you can impose that make a difference and bring iran back to the table to renegotiate his deal or do you let Western Europe run all over the country . Judge napolitano as it was about the best youre going to get at the time under barack obama. I dont think what we are going to get thats better short of any violence. I dont know anyone that really wants to violence. This was an Executive Agreement between the president of the United States and the leaders of iran, this was not a treaty ratified by the senate. Therefore, though i may disagree with president trent, he has every lawful and Constitutional Rights to aggregated but hes got to face the consequences. Its divisive in the e. U. , the e. U. As you just pointed out is going to protect the businesses that continue to do business with iran, i dont know how theyre going to do that protection, knowing donald trump is going to retaliate against countries that permit their companies to do business. Melissa i dont think that he wants a balance. What we are seeing is a Regime Change, that theyre being squeezed so tightly economically and we are not hearing a lot about the riots in the various things that the only other way to battle back other than an agreement is to put so much economic pressure that the death grip on their own population is overthrown. Kennedy is interesting because its so tough with a theocracy. How do you do that . The last thing americans want is Regime Change in the middle east. We dont want another protracted war, we dont want more death, a thriving economy is fine. That benefits everyone. But how on earth do you encourage that sort of an up rising so they overthrow that horrific system . Melissa for sure obviously, but if you look at saudi arabia on the next generation of leaders that have come in, obviously they have a million miles to go in that country but it is a population where 70 of the population is under 30 and they are looking for a more modern way forward just because they realize. Kennedy is a generational shift. Dagen the messaging coming out of Secretary Of State mike pompeo has been brilliant. If you listen to that speech he gave at the Reagan Library in late july, he painted the iranian leadership as mobsters. Has a bunch of members of the mafia. The money that iran got because of the Iran Nuclear Deal was directed to Terrorist Dictators and militia rather than the welfare of ordinary iranians. Mike pompeo said the United States hears you talking about the iranian people who are dealing with soaring unemployment and soaring inflation, the United States supports you, the United States is with you. In the protest weve seen, they are not against the United States. They are against the iranian leader and what is happening within that country. Kennedy they want what everyone else wants. They want flexibility, they want to take care of their kids. Judge napolitano we should not have laws in this country that permit the president of the United States alone without an authorization from the congress to ship 400 million in cash to the iranian dictators. Mike pompeo is rate, what barack obama did was lawful, it shouldnt have been lawful. Kennedy that was not something that was ratified by the senate, you can think President Obama for that. Jessica thank you, President Obama for that. Kennedy dont complain about the consequences from President Trump acting lead unilaterally. Jessica i was just doing that to make you happy. We are in an awful mess here. I do agree with the judge that the deal was the best we are going to get at the time. I am hopeful that we can get a better deal and that the economic and is often how we get to a better place because people just measures things based on their pocketbooks and thats true of europe and is going to be true of a place like iran as well. In terms of another uprising, you are seeing a little bit of the same vibe that we had prearab spring, the young people out they were agitated. We are working to make sure they have a Free Internet for instance. That is one of the most important things that we can do. It goes in and out obviously with how much they allow and what they cut off. Dagen i want to answer one thing that the judge said. As evidence that the real world never saw this iran deal would stand, American Companies for the most part did not start breaking deals in doing busines business, erupt, they just dove in headfirst we have incredible energy production here, Strategic Petroleum reserve that has 650 million barrels, and then also cutting out access to the Swift Financial work, a Messaging System that facilitates Financial Transactions around the world, you caught iran off, you cut them off from the outside. Kennedy also, it will be u. S. Technology and the free market. President trump continues to ramp up his feud with the socalled fake news as several reporters raise alarms over his rhetoric. But the white house defending his criticism saying its the media thats been launching this attack. We will debate. Plus, we could be just days away from learning if trump will agree to an interview with special counsel Robert Mueller. What will happen . Im comfortable in saying this, if there was strong evidence of collusion, i guarantee it would have been leaked by now but lets wait for the process to play itself out. Come here, babe. Ok. Nasty Nighttime Heartburn . Try new alkaseltzer pm gummies. The only fast, Powerful Heartburn Relief Plus Melatonin so you can fall asleep quickly. Oh, what a relief it is decide to sit for an interview with muellers team against the advice of lawyers, watch. At the end of the day come hes the president he gets to make that decision. We are going to give our advice. But if you get a subpoena, you file whats called a motion, it would go to the District Court and the Court Of Appeals and in the Supreme Court of United States and from the Supreme Court, goes back down to the lower courts again. So if the special counsel makes a determination and gets the authority, they have to have the authority to seek that subpoena, a subpoena for live testimony has never been tested in court as to a president of the United States. Melissa meantime, republicans editor marco rubio says it appears that mueller has nothing when it comes to Finding Collusion between President Trumps campaign end. Watch. I believe it is in the best interest of the president and of the United States of america and the American People for that investigation to run the course for all the truth to come out and the best thing that can happen for him in the best thing that can happen for the country. Obviously, he is annoyed by that investigation continuing to go on because its about him. And he believes and has said repeatedly and emphatically that he did not collude with the russians. Im limited in what i can say because a son is still doing our investigation but im comfortable in saying this. If there was evidence of collusion, i guarantee you it would have been leaked by now. Lets wait for the process to play itself out. Melissa house until democrat adam schiff says there is evidence of collusion and the president continues to Cast Doubt On Whether Russia Meddled in the election. The biggest thing the president could do was confront moscow, establish some kind of deterrence but instead exactly the opposite messages being being sent and that is and i think this was delivered in helsinki, as long as the russians interfere on Donald Trumps side and the midterms, Vladimir Putin can count on the president to never call him out. And that leaves us all to vulnerable. If melissa the president s lawyer Rudy Giulianis as a final decision on a mueller interview is likely by this sunday. I know we had this new tweet from the president over the weekend talking about the fact that the meeting was about that they have dirt on the opposition. Im confused because the democrats paid a Foreign Government or foreign entity. Judge napolitano your confused because they were investigating the wrong side. Melissa im confused what is or isnt legal. Judge napolitano there is no such a lot and there is no such word in the law as collusion, thats a hollywood and media term. The legal term is conspiracy. At the Trump Campaign and the russians Work Together, but was there an agreement to Work Together . The crime is the agreement. Whether the agreement was put into place or not. Thats what bob mueller is looking for. Melissa s are paying for the dossier, thats an agreement. Judge napolitano except that hes not investigating that, hes investigating whether or not the people from the Trump Campaign entered into an agreement to receive dirt from hillary, Whether The Dirt was received or not. The crime if there were a crime is receiving anything of value from a foreign person entity or government. If there is an agreement to do that, the dossier was prepared by a person looking for a law firm hired by Hillary Clinton. Kennedy youre basically just wandering guilt at that point. Judge napolitano you may argue and ive argued that unsuccessfully in agreement that ends up not being carried out shouldnt be a crime but it is. Its the prosecutors favorite crime, its called conspiracy. Its the easiest to prove, all you need to know is who agreed that one of them took a step further. Melissa if you hire someone to kill someone, that the crime even if they arent successful. Judge napolitano two people hire someone to kill someone whether that killing takes place or not, they can be prosecuted for conspiracy to commit murder even know there was no murder. The reason he so looks upset is that he told bob mueller of the meeting with the russians was about russian adoptions and the lawyers made misrepresentations like that, than other lawyers stop believing them. He said this is what i was told by my client at the time. And his client, the president initially said it was about adoptions over the weekend. He acknowledged what it was truly about which was whether or not theyre going to get dirt from hillary. The president was also worried about his son because his son testified under oath that this was not about dirt from hillary and that his father didnt know about it and there appears to be a difference. Dagen from the outside looking in, doesnt it look like increasingly the mueller team is setting a trap for the president if he decides to speak with the them. So potentially listening to the advice of you on this sofa regularly and his own attorneys, how in the world could he ever cooperate and sit down with mueller for an interview knowing that if you tell one lie, he will move to file charges . Jessica he could not tell a lie, thats always been an option here. The president had nothing to do with the statement originally on Air Force One, he absolutely did an hope hicks was back on Air Force One this weekend which seems like a very odd timing at the two became out in the morning. Don jr. Said the wrong reason that the meeting happened in the first place, you have Michael Cohen who knows how many more tapes are going to come out for him saying actually, there were more people in the room. Dagen is more insidious than that. You never know what mueller has on you. Despite all the prep work that his attorneys do with him and another thing is it would seem like the president wants to sit down to get this out of the way, but we dont know how far he is into this. Kennedy i understand the president is incredibly emphatic about his innocence. I think that he should sit down, i think that he should im sure there will be parameters. And i think he should dare them to impeach him because even if there is a democratic majority in the house and thats the avenue they go down, is never to be impeached. But it is almost an Insurance Policy that guarantees his reelection because he will and is the only scenario where he cast himself as a victim. He did the right thing politically, he sat down, he answered the questions and if he is charged with the procedural crime in essence is somehow Robert Mueller telling congress go ahead and impeach him. Jessica i think the president should do whatever he can to make it clear that he was not involved. I believe that he wasnt, the people around him are the ones that were, that don jr. And jared kushner, et cetera. His lawyers are holding him back a little bit. Dagen it so much more fun, the tweeting. If you sit down with the interview, he is going to leak everything he says and tweeting as soon as he walks out of the interview. 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We are going to have to fight uphill. But me, im going up that hill and i hope you are too. And i hope that when you do, you reach your hand out and bring someone else along for the clim climb. Kennedy very good, we are all going to everest. Meanwhile, listen to this from new york gubernatorial candidate Cynthia Nixon continuing her approach to make socialism more mainstream in the party. I am proud to be one of a small but growing number of candidates who identify as a democratic socialist. The establishment is terrified of that word. Socialism. Republicans are going to call a socialist no matter what we do, so we might as well give them the real thing. Kennedy youre never going to hear that conversation. I agree, i absolutely agree with her in that. If youre really going to teach people in this country about socialism, you should give them the real thing. So Cynthia Nixon should take a plane lives of people down to venezuela and see how they exist for two weeks. Judge napolitano i dont think this is the future of the democratic party, looking at my dear friend jessica, i think the future is the connor lamb and Danny Oconnor and the moderate democrats because this hard left stuff will do to the democrats what and this was my baptism into politics what Barry Goldwaters conservatism did in 1964 the republicans. Make them the Minority Party like Ronald Reagan comes along and makes the word conservatism respectable. I dont think socialism can ever be respectable because of its inherent defects of stealing from k to give to b. This is bad politics. Melissa i dont think they are familiar enough with socialism that in a vacuum it sounds like a good thing. All you have to do is work as a waitress at a restaurant and a place where you pull tips and you work really hard and somebody else doesnt work hard and you pull the tips and all of a sudden youre both staying there with the same amount of money and young people understand why socialism doesnt work. Ill add one more onto that. The people making a lot of money stop putting all their money in. This happened in a restaurant i worked at, anyone who has worked as a waitress knows that the kind of thing does not work but inherently, there are some thing now in young people that sounds noble and heroic about socialis socialism. They have forgotten the real lesson. Kennedy the economic consequences, if this country really does get into the socialist experiment and feared at some point, theyre going to, what happens to the economy or things like Universal Basic Income and medicare for all . Dagen it goes down the toilet, everyone should just move to New York City and see how far your tax dollars go. You get and in the streets and pot holes the size of rhode island, thats what your money gets even a place like new york. And ill just point out, it would be lovely if the democrats knew some basic math. In terms of medicare for all, great slogan, great message. We found out last week, a couple of weeks ago, it costs 33 trillion in the first ten years and medicare to put that in perspective, you would have to double what the government collects in taxes from individuals and corporations in this country and it still would not be enough to cover it. You know its going to happen in eight years . The Medicare Hospital Trust Fund goes bankrupt. It runs out of money and theyre going to be able to pay that 0. 90 on the dollar, theres going to be an immediate benefit cut to anybody on medicare and not one jerk in washington. Kennedy its interesting because they were to think tanks that did the cost benefit analysis of this and Bernie Sanders office, fox news reached out to Bernie Sanders office and they hadnt run the numbers, they dont know what its going to cost. Jessica you listen to alexandria ocasiocortez give quite a infamous interview with trevor know on the daily show which certainly the friendliest of audiences that you might have in terms of talking about this. She did not. And i get it, shes young and she is learning and i would encourage all young people to get involved in politics, i think its an exciting thing to do. But if youre going toetotoe with people who are all about the numbers, you have to have the numbers, im personally not a member of the medicare for all caucus, the moderates you name are not as well. We have seen a shift left and you have people that Kamala Harris now who is in that caucus but also when you hear her speak quite moderate and a lot of the things happening nationwide, almost sounds like Hillary Clinton or for publicprivate partnerships like the experiment we had in vermont where there is always going to be a public option but we still keep private Health Care Providers. Kennedy they abandon their socialist Health Care Push and Bernie Sanders homestay. Dagen the slogan for these should be we make better decisions with your money than you do. Judge napolitano i want to see a response to this, ocasiocortez go up against. Dagen i dont have the Unemployment Rate is going. Just politically speaking. Kennedy President Trump not letting up on what he calls fake news, the latest from the president and the white house comes to his defense of her concerns that his remarks are out of line. We will debate next. You see clear skin. You see me. But if you saw me before cosentyx. I was covered. It was awful. But i didnt give up. I kept fighting. I got clear skin with cosentyx. 3 years and counting. Clear skin can last. See if cosentyx could make a difference for you. Cosentyx is proven to help people with moderate to Severe Plaque Psoriasis find clear skin that can last. Dont use if youre allergic to cosentyx. 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They purposely cause Great Division and distrust. They can also cause war. They are very dangerous and sick. Counsel to the president Kellyanne Conway defending the president s remarks saying he is targeting reporters and Media Outlets that dont tell the truth. Watch. That i think the president s entire point is this. We do have a news media that includes some reporters, so this should not be a broad brush by any statement. I said that before, his daughter said last week and i know he believes is not all. Thats why he said he really refers to those who arent always telling the truth and are giving a motion over information, talking more about their own egos then giving everyman interviews. Dagen New York Times columnist Bret Stephens warns the president s attack on nonmedia could to violence. Stevens writing this. Maybe trump thinks that most journalists with their relentless hostility to his personality and politics which they deserve public scorn. What should be clear is this. We are approaching a day when blood on the News Room Floor will be blood on the president s hands. Candy, how overthetop is this and why isnt there more outrage at that kind of comment . Kennedy i think both sides are overheated and misguided, but that sort of his story it is actually very dangerous because youre almost goading people into violence. And i think journalists have to do an examination and say what is journalism, what are the questions we are supposed to ask, how do we seek the truth objectively and how to be called truth to power . Is a critical function of the press in this country. He has to accept that he will be challenged and i understand that he is frustrated because there was such an overwhelming amount of negative coverage from the media but given that, he also has a callout Media Sources that he thinks are doing a great job and you dont always have to agree with the president. Its actually okay to be skeptical. Dagen so many people judge on tv, the every day that they love being upset and outraged, i call it manufactured outrage. And its asymmetric rage, is not symmetrical with what was actually said very often or what is actually happened in this country. But they love it because they love being the center of attention and they enjoy not really doing any policy work and research, and they can just be lazy and say whatever comes to their mind. Judge napolitano im going to agree with both kennedy and Brett Stevens, it is a duty to challenge the government under the law and thanks to some wonderful interpretations of the first amendment, the press, the media is the eyes and ears of the public, they have the right to dig, they have the right to knock on doors, they have the right to ask whatever questions you want. If you read the columns, the excerpt that we cited from brett stevens, he talks about threats that he received. Melissa but he received those threats after he said perhaps the reason trump voters are so frequently the subject of caricature as they so frequently conform to types. It started with him insulting people who support the president which is where a lot of these things go off the rails. Judge napolitano his argument is if the president gives cover to the threats by his own verbiage, thats wrong. Melissa of course, its true. But Brett Stevens started by insulting the people who support the president , thats not helpful either, none of these things are good. Jessica your insults should be pointed i would say. If you have this with the specific group, go after them on policy, go after them on things if they actually believe her they have done. Theres also a caricature of what a lefty looks like. And that gets used in Mainstream Media all the time as well, that we are all out there screaming abolish ice, and we are not. We were sitting amongst you talking about moderate proposals, but the idea that Brett Stevens could be as big of a factor in this is the president of the United States of america i think is really unfair here. Melissa who said that . Jessica to be having a conversation about them in equal measure and say this and that. Kennedy youre taking one specific example and taking it apart and pointing out the flaw flaws. I think thats a reasonable thing to do. Jessica because this column is started off by insulting his group that if anything is warranted. Melissa no one said that. That is for sure not the case at the president in no way should be tweeting these things, that that Doesnt Make Sense but its important to note that it wasnt in response to you are saying drilling down on the facts of the matter, this started with someone insulting in an Opinion Piece the people who voted for the president. Judge napolitano that doesnt justify threatening him. Melissa it doesnt but its also bad behavior. Everybody needs to stop with all of this. Jessica you saw Chris Wallace push back on this yesterday on fox news sunday, what war have we started . I would just go back to it, im sorry i completed what you said theyre in anyway i didnt mean to. But you have the president of the United States of america, the most powerful person in the world harming in irreparable ways. Dagen words dont cut, they dont cut, they cut the fragile ego of some journalists that i happen to know here in New York City and he is merely touching on how the American People feel about journalists. My parents always hated hearing appomattox on national television, nobody ever bothered to figure out how to say it correctly. So is not something created by the president. He is merely expressing how the American People feel. Thats why he got elected. Judge napolitano what is powhatan . Melissa powhatan county in virginia. 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If it comes to the vote before then, my guess is that most or all republicans hold for judge kavanaugh on a couple of democrats particularly those in moderate states who are moderates themselves will vote for him. Kennedy so lets discuss, what is the right thing for democrats to do given they have a lot of resistance, what should they be after . Judge napolitano heres the issue, those that are rejoicing that the democrats are finally willing to meet with judge need to know theyre not doing this because of a vote for him, theyre doing this because they want to press him personally for his documents in his papers. Which are in the national archives. You talk about a million and a half pages of documents that he prepared when he worked in the Bush White House on things like torture, rendition, surveillance, forget about the fourth amendment. Now when elena kagan currently on the Supreme Court was nominated by barack obama and the republicans asked for her papers when she worked in the Obama White House, the Obama White House surrounded them. Melissa but she was a Legal Counsel and i thought he was staff secretary. Judge napolitano theres not any difference. The point is that he was still giving advice to the president of the United States on issues that he may have to rule on now. I think it is fair game. Can you imagine rand pauls reaction, already come out in favor of judge kavanaugh if he sees memos that george w. Bush in favor of torture . Melissa he was organizing paper from other Executive Branch is, he wasnt giving legal advice in that capacity. Kennedy is a you say is not fair game. Judge napolitano we dont know that until we see the documents and if they keep the documents from our view, we want no. Kennedy if you like theyre hiding something. Jessica there are always little clues in this, we saw a report they are looking at judge kavanaughs wifes emails. Im saying thats where we are in this conversation, so even if they are getting papers that are just staff papers shuffling around, they need to be looking for clues in there that can indicate they feel about issues that may become the United States. Kennedy with all of this and the gamesmanship, Will Cavanaugh be confirmed . Dagen yes, because there is pressure on joe manchin, joe donnelly in indiana and Heidi Heitkamp who voted for. Kennedy will they do it before the midterm . Dagen absolutely, it is a winner for the base. Speak to the democrats do not have the numbers. Joe lieberman was right, the republicans started this by not even considering merrick garland. But they dont have the numbers to block judge kavanaugh. B5 but was he borked . Judge napolitano he wasnt even considered. Dont get me going on borked. 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