Former deputy spokesperson for the state Department Fox news analyst and host marie harf. And in the center seat, former White House Press secretary for President Trump sean spicer is outnumbered today with your fancy socks on. A lot for you to weigh in on, this new cycle is fierce. Sean i dont know if there are too many that have not been fierce. This is pretty normal. Harris lets get to normal, shall we. As we await the remarks on the president , more reaction to the decision is coming into revoke john brennan security clearance, White House Press secretary Sarah Sanders says that the president is upholding his duty to safeguard the nations secrets. Watch this. Speak of the president has constitutional responsibility to protect classified information and who has access to it. And that is what he is doing paid for filling that responsibility. This is actually specific to mr. Brennan and the others are under review. Harris brennan responding in a New York Times oped accusing the president of using his power to the Ongoing Investigation mr. Trump clearly has become more desperate to protect himself in those close to him which is why he made the politically motivated decision to revoke my security clearance and to stare into science others who might dare to challenge him. The top democrat on the Senate Intel Committee also went after the president s decision. This had an eerie memory of an enemies list. These people were being singled out. To either have their clearance is revoked or the process of being revoked, it smacks a nixonian practice of trying to silence anyone who is able to criticize this president. Putting us in uncharted territory. Harris republican senator john kennedy says that brennan had it coming. Well, i made my feelings known about mr. Brennan, i think that most americans look at our National Intelligence experts as being above politics. Mr. Brennan has demonstrated that if that is not the case. He has been very political. I think that i called him a butthead, and i meant it. He has given the National Intelligence committee a bad name. Harris you know that that is going to hashtag. And now the white house is reviewing the security clearance of former doj and fbi officials. Some have lost their clearance, may not have to have it reinstated. Sean spicer, how different is this from anything we have seen in the past in terms of security clearances . Sean it is different in a lot of ways, but it is different that you do not have the heads of these organizations going out and being overtly political. You do not have generally speaking cia director that goes out and attacks the current commanderinchief. Using treasons, high crimes, misdemeanors. It is on both sides. You have these individuals that are going out and using positions of trust and ones that have been nonpolitical. And engaging in a political way. In other words you are seeing a political response. Harris marie, you are the only one on the couch, probably, what i was going to say, probably who in distance would have worked with the people that were working with the security clearance. So im curious as to your thoughts, because you know some of these people. Marie i know john brennan. And i think that there are a few things to keep in mind. First the rule for a while get security clearances revoked, and john brennan did not break any of them. The ability for former officials to maintain their clearances is not a gift to the former officials paid it so that their successors can call on their predecessors to get guidance and support. Harris cant they be reinstated at a high level . Sean not all. Marie i dont know if there is a way to overrule the president. The point is that it is not a gift to these former officials. I will also say that the idea that because former officials are speaking out publicly, that somehow they got on a list and now they are being punished by taking their clearance away is not going to change anything that john brennan does. I do agree that it smacks some sort of going against his ability to speak freely. He has done nothing to abuse is classified access. Lisa what does it do to the Intelligence Community to have someone like john brennan accuse President Trump of unfounded things like treason . Marie i talked to a lot of my former colleagues at the cia, they were upset because they still really like john brennan. Some of them dont. I worked there under george w. Bush and barack obama. And mike hayden, who i love and i worked for was critical of the obama administrations policies after he left office. So the question is, what is the line . And donald trump is taking this sean there is a difference between being critical of the policies and talking about things that he would have had direct knowledge of and still question whether he if you have a clearance and you are talking about an investigation, an active investigation, it clouds the idea for the viewer to know whether or not you are speaking based on experience or your access to information. So its one thing to be critical of overall policies. If brennan was talking about our foreign policy, that would be one thing could we would be having a completely different discussion. But the fact is he is talking about an active investigation about intelligence that he has had access to. He is not making it clear, he is not saying, i have not looked at anything new paid i have no new information. He is not allowing the viewer to discern what he knows is based on active intelligence that he has access to. Marie he has said that. I have not gone in, this is not based on anything that i know now. It feels heavy like the wall street journal. Harris they are not hiring him based on the fact that they like him. They are paying him and hiring him, because sean i will give director comey some credit, because my understanding is that he proactively went out and said i do not want to clearance, because i do not want their harris was that before or after the book . Sean it was after the book when they asked him to review. But at some point at least making it clear that i do not have access, i cannot be blamed or no one can view what i think of as an opinion based on any kind of active intelligence. Katie this is not just President Trump making this argument that it should be revoked, but put away after the officials leave their office, senator rand paul made the point that you just did about the fact when john brennan was going out on Cable Television and he still had access to classified information, we dont know who he is talking to. You run a serious risk of accidentally unprovoked exposing classified information in a unclassified setting. When it comes to what the requirements are, getting a sick clear at security clearance, there are many why they get to revoked. You look at the situation and the requirements, character, trustworthiness, and sound judgment are all requirements to obtain a security clearance. So based on how john brennan has behaved over the course of the last year, over the course of the trump presidency, the white house is saying, he is doing the country a disservice by going out with the security clearance and acting in this fashion. They have argued that this is an attack on their free speech. No, it is not. They still have the ability to go and criticize the president. Talk about their experiences. You are not entitled under the First Amendment to a security clearance. Harris i want to get into this, we have a shot of the white house, because the president right now is holding a Cabinet Meeting inside the white house. Contemporaneously we are getting some notes coming out of there. But there is a camera that is not going to show it live. So we will show it in its entirety when we gain access. But meanwhile, the president opening his remarks in that Cabinet Meeting. I want to begin by expressing my condolences of a person i knew well, Aretha Franklin. She was given a great gift of her voice, my warmest and best wishes and sympathies. Then he went on to talk about the economy. He called on larry kudlow, economic adviser and is touting that right now. As we get more notes out. And certainly if in that pool there is a reporter who would ask a question about the situation with john brennan who will bring that information as quickly as possible. Lisa all i was going to say is that i find it a little bit rich for the guy, john brennan while he was at the home of the cia had to apologize to Senate Intel Committee members and then lying to them, so i find it a little bit rich that he is bemoaning abuse of power when clearly he is at the helm of the cia, abusing his power. Or looking back, i do not think it is quite as addictive as using the irs for political opponents either. Marie mike flynn obtained his when he left the cia, when on the campaign trail, stood on stage and called for Hillary Clinton to be locked up. His clearance was not revoked. Donald trump did not call on him to have his clearance revoked. So it looks like donald trump wants to revoked clearances of people who politically criticize him. I do not like that. It is politicizing the security clearance process. People should stop focusing on John Brennans clearance and what he is saying. He is raising some interesting things. Lisa look at peter strzok, he just got fired. Marie but how do you respond to mike flynn. Katie i agree with you, the idea that mike flynn, its not the idea that just democrats who are in the intelligence agencies that go out. Marie im not sure that John Brennans democrat. Katie he is antithe current administration. There are republicans who serve in the administration of democrats and they go out and benefit from their experience, but when it comes to the time now where we are in a different time than we were two years ago paid Hillary Clinton is not the president of the United States trying to take care the countrys business and keep the country safe. John brennan and his commentary again, there is a line there. He still has access to classified information as he has done in the past. He has exposed cia operatives on the ground and importantly there is a case to be made that you should not have access whether he is using it or not to prevent that from coming out. Harris one of the questions are we to generous with their terms inadvertent and accidentally, should there be a bright line on cutting people off when administrations change . Sean look, as someone who has had one for 20 years, i think that to marias for bright want to call people back into government and what the cost tht their funds for people to get them, you want them to maintain. Harris can you reinstate . Sean it is active, secret clearance is active for a ten, top secret is active for five. If they do not get renewed, they go away. But the idea that you want to maintain them allows people who come in and out, or maybe they are contractors that gets pulled onto a classified project. You cannot wait. Harris we want to be able to take this when it comes up. I apologize, i am being told by our producers, one of the things that might be asked about what the president inside the Cabinet Meeting. We are just getting drips and drops, as it happens we will take you there might be about the john brennan thing. Which is exactly what sean spicer is talking about. I would ask the question could the president have gone through on one of the other venues of the fbi just to have them review the process before doing this . That is my question to ask. To the president now responding after hundreds of newspapers ran for donated editorials today going after what they are calling the president s assault on the free press. Sean spicer faced many of those reporters daily. What . We will get your reaction. Lisa and the reaction per Paul Manafort could come today. On the verdict watch of the former Trump Campaign chairman, what the jurys decision will mean for the Mueller Investigation if anything at all. Stay close. Alright, i brought in new max protein. 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And of course we saw upwards of 300 editorial boards gathering with newspapers across the country today to write projournalism editorials and the president just told reporters if you like you can stay, if you like you can leave. Freedom of the press. The color in the room. Hitting these topics i might be talking at some point about the security clearance revocation of cia director john brennan. Lee said. Lisa another fox news alert, could comment any moment, the jury trying to prosecutors told the jurors said that the evidence is overwhelming, but the defense slamming Robert Muellers team, Paul Manaforts righthand man rick gates saying that he is a liar. Peter doocys life in alexandria, virginia, with all of the latest, peter. Lee cell, the jury this morning asked the judge for a sort of change of venue, they tt that the jury room was too small to deliberate, they asked if they could do it in the rec room instead, the judge said that they could, that is where they are right now. This is the first day of deliberation. And the judge wanted to make sure that the six men and six women from Northern Virginia are focus more on the evidence then the sometimes salty comments he made to the mueller team about the approach, their witnesses and their evidence. The judge told the jury since you are the sole judgment of this case, do not take any court to question, asked witnesses as expressing an opinion on the evidence. The molar team conceded in their closing arguments that the Business Partner rick gates might have some credibility problems. Greg andres told jurors that they do not need to trust every word that gates said, but they should put it into context with the rest of the evidence. And from the mueller team said ladies and gentlemen, the star witness in this case is the documents. The Manafort Defense Team thinks they have wedged enough doubt into the case that jurors cannot convict. Richard wessling from the Manafort Team says the constitution guarantees each and every american charge within a fence to put the government to its burden. It is your job to ensure that burden has been met. There was a funny moment in the court this morning that had Paul Manafort laughing after the jury was impaneled and they left the courtroom, the judge asked from the bench if mr. Trump was there, and people gasped and as it turns out, there is a prosecutor named mr. Trump who was there for the next case. Back to you in new york. Lisa thank you for that color. Harris you are hilarious. Lisa thank you, peter, we appreciate it. That was so funny. As the jury deliberates, what is the conviction mean for the president . Sean nothing. Look at the charges. Bank fraud, failure to pay your taxes. Failure to register with the government properly. I think that if he signed a violation, that is something that he has clearly done wrong. Injustice is being served. It has nothing to do with the president. At all. Judge ellis has made it very clear that any collusion to the president is outofbounds, because none of the charges have anything to do with him. It gets back to the underlying point which is that clearly he is going after all of these outside of the area charges against manafort because he wants him to flip or give him Information Exchange for some conviction or sentencing to get the bigger fish, what he believes is the president. Lisa marie, i will ask you the flip side, if he is acquitted, what does that mean for the Mueller Investigation . Marie im not sure we can grab a lot of lessons. Lisa is it a blow to his ability to bring charges . Marie know, already dozens of charges on americans and russians as a whole host of issues, we will see what rick gates gave them as well. Probably just beyond manafort. I think that Paul Manaforts teams took an interesting tact to not bring any witnesses of their own. They did not get a plea agreement. Manafort thinks that he can beat this, but he is facing hundreds of years in jail time if he is convicted. And i will say to sean, the president says that he hires the best people, we have all known manafort plays a little fast and loose, he brought them into run the campaign. To this is not a surprising outcome for a lot of people who know Paul Manafort. Sean i wrote all about this in my book, that manafort at the time, heading to a convention in cleveland where there was this nevertrump effort afoot, to put a new candidate on the ballot, all of this stuff. Manafort back to the Florida Administration the last broker convention. He was brought in for a specific reason