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FOXNEWSW Outnumbered August 11, 2020

Forward to see how the department moves forward through the procession of reenviesing public reenvisioning public safety. The decision is after the Seattle Police were told to stand down as the protesters took over a sixblock area of seattle neighborhood for weeks. Remember this . The occupation. Also, they protested outside the Police Chiefs own home. You are watching outnumbered. Im harris faulkner. Here today fox business anchor dagen mcdowell. Fox news correspondent gillian turner. Executive director of serve america pac and the Fox News Contributor marie harf. Joining us today, i havent seen him in a while. Were glad he is back. Former chie chief of staff for mitch mcconnell, josh holmes in the virtual house. Josh good to see you. Harris good to see you. Josh good to see you, harris. Harris chart with chief best and what could not have be an easy decision for her. Why was it necessary . Josh i think a lot of us hoped that ewould never get to the point that americans are suffering the consequence of prolonged liberal government of American Cities but the consequences are here. And with this particular case, the real problem honestly is you cant over time disrespect, defund the police department, pretend like they dont exist. The concerns about the community are nonexistent. You cant do those things and then hope that good people will choose to serve the communities. What we have seen in seattle, perfect example of the neglect of the police department, Law Enforcement in general that unfortunately in the end means a qualified police chief decided to walk away. Harris dagen, this hurts on so many levels. You and i have been talking for months now about the accomplishment but the continuing need to address issues of race relations, citizen relations among the Police Officers. Finding the evil ones among them. Both sides of the issue of policing and also just human beings getting along. Can they get along . Losing a diversity player as high up to the top as this at this time in this country, that does some damage. Dagen it does. Carmen best is the first black woman to hold that job as the police chief in the city of seattle. But she has stood by and watched a city council let the mobs rule and let the mobs win if you will. This started with the taking of the Police Precinct. The Police Precinct was surrendered to occupiers. She pushed back. She pushed back when the city council banned the use of pepper spray. She disagreed with that decision, calling in to question how her officers would do their jobs in trying to control the increasingly violent crowds of people. Then her home that was essentially, it was targeted by what she called aggressive protesters. Her neighbors had to jump in and stop the trespassing, or stop what else might have followed. She said at the time the behavior must be denounced. This devolves in to way of doing business by mob rule. And the city council is allowing this to happen. I just want to raise the issue of where are all these giant businesses that are based in an around seattle. Amazon, starbucks, costco, nordstrom to stand up and say we are not going to tolerate this . We are not going to have basically a few aggressive, violent anarchists control our city and we are not going to let this woman leave. Harris i have a guess of where they are, dagen. They are caught between the incredible, incredible amount of privilege through their bottom line that they have per the workers they are so blessed to get at those corporations that keep them whole throughout whatever process. They are caught between that and whatever wokefulness means at this juncture when people are looting, breaking and stealing things. They are caught in the middle. My question is how are they going to get out of that . You cant stay stuck. Marie . Marie i thought one of the most interesting part of her Resignation Letter thought about how most people in seattle do support the police. It is worth remembering that the anarchists that are doing the looting are a very, very small number of people. That is an important thing to remember when we see pictures that are obviously concerning. Most of seattle residents dont support defunding the police. And support reforming the police. So that is the conversation that the city council awkwardly waded in to. They pulled back on some of the initial proposals but i dont think they are a model on how the city council should try to look at the funding to see if some of it could be better spent elsewhere. This is a complicated, messy situation. I think that a lot of cities are going to be looking at how do we fund the Police Departments and reallocate some of the money in a better way . This is an unfortunate situation all the way around, losing the police chief as a result. Harris i wonder about the time, though. They have had so many days to do ma what you are talking about. Then my question is who the heck are they listening to . The people in the streets dont have a cohesive leader. Its b. L. M. , the organization, b. L. M. , the movement. Very Different Things in most cases and most peoples minds out there peacefully protesting. Then, you know, what some police and the mayors are calling attempted murders as they lock doors to exits and buildings they set fires in. Gillian in this case, harris, the thing about government budget cuts whether its at the national level, the state level, the city level. They only work when they are made at a time that fits in with the annual budgeting process. It never works when the cuts are made midway through a cycle like they are done now because they end up being haphazard. They end up causing a lot more harm and making the problems they are trying to solve worse. This is what happened when the new York City Council cut the nypd budget, slashed by 1 billion. Its happening now in seattle. The cuts are made in reaction to and in response to what is perceived as the national mood. That is very problematic. That is irresponsible way to do the process of government. Budgeting in a case like this is a perfect example of the city council doing their citizens, the constituents a clear disservice. Even if you agree that the Police Budget should be cut, this is still not the appropriate way, the responsible way to do it. Harris meanwhile, Portland Police declared an Unlawful Assembly on the 74th street night of protest where the police were again attacked. In this chicago, protesters rallied to support more than 100 people arrested in the widespread looting and rioting sunday night. 13 officers injured in that. Now the wall street Journal Editorial Board is writing this. All of this raises the question of how long the main stream press and democratic politician can publicly maintain the fiction that violence surrounding mostly peaceful protest is a nuisance of little consequence and that the real villains are the police. The longer this willful distortion continues the longer the economic imminerasiot of chicago will persist even after the pandemic ends. You know, josh, i come to you because we are talking about where the messages come from to make changes. What is your thought on this . Josh situation needs to be done. You have to have the courage to call a situation what it is. This has nothing to do with george floyd. This has nothing to do with the police brutality, equality and justice. All the things we had a conversation about in june morphed to lawlessness in cities across the United States. I fear as the wall street journal clearly articulated this will have a prolonged effect. You remember in the decade past we had a huge migration of American Cities to the suburbs where you had no investment in what became the slums across this country. That would be the tragedy the likes of which, i dont know that we fully wrap our heads around. But that is going to happen unless you have the leadership here. Its provided by a bunch of the liberal democrats what control the entirety of the governance of all of the cities over decades and decades and decades. I dont see anything happening there any time soon. Unfortunately, the idea they will have a reform vote in november to replace some of the things i think is sort of a fantasy. But this is something that people i think dagen mentioned earlier, the businesses in seattle. Yes. Everyone needs to be involved in this. And try to drag people to the table. To get the cities to a point where they can function again. Harris i argue josh, and again this is from my perspective, having covered the unrest in this country and the other countries that you know, there is no one for them to have that conversation with. The businesses sit back because they dont want to look upon as taking a side against, you know, wokefulness because they have the people among their staff who they had to have talks with. I guess we have the people to allow to get ready to politically what they need to do and be in the streets. Corporations could also step in and say it would be helpful if you didnt protest on days of work. I dont know. I think they can do those things. Does it even matter . That at least means they might not be out there at 3 00 in morning. I dont know, dagen. Im putting crayons on the canvas here. Dagen ill say this. Money talks and the corporations have money. And money walks. They can go to another state. Ultimately that is what causes the downward spiral. They are living, the city council in seattle and these mayors and the governors are living in the left wing land of the lost. That they are winking at this mayhem in their streets and they are allowing the lawlessness. So what is going to go done. Again, this is not just about a couple of molotov cocktails thrown at some cops, okay . Its about standing by and watching the stores being looted and watching the businesses being destroyed. Watching the livelihoods crumble in front of the television audience. And then that is a loss of the jobs. That is cities that are dismated. Thos decimated and thebidses. Then you have a downward financial spiral harris is that happening . Are we seeing the businesses leave . Dagen this started playing out. In new york its been a couple of years. But in places like portland and seattle, you will see the businesses leave. The tax base gets smaller and the crime gets worse. I dont know. What is their ideology in the citys . Apathy . Is that it . Is the ideology complete disregard for the livelihood and the human life . That is the way it looks. Harris wow well move on. Joe biden announcement of the Vice President ial pick is said to be imminent. A group of prominent black men making a lastminute pitch to the Presumptive Democratic nominee. Plus, the Democratic National convention will feature influential progressives. How the party is appealing to the leftist wing and what message it could send to voters. Tada did you know Liberty Mutual customizes your Car Insurance so you only pay for what you need . Given my unique lifestyle, thatd be perfect let me grab a pen and some paper. Know what . Im gonna switch now. Just need my desk. My chair. And my phone. Only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. I wanted more from my copd medicine thats why ive got the power of 1, 2, 3 medicines with trelegy. The only fdaapproved oncedaily 3in1 copd treatment. 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Yesterday a group of the 100 black men including sean combs, civil rights Attorney Ben Crump and the radio host charlemaine signed a letter to urge biden to select a black woman for his running mate. It reads in part, for too long women have been asked to rally troop and risk their lives if for Democratic Party with no respect, no visibility and certainly not enough support. Faming to select a black woman failing to select a black woman in 2020 means you will lose the election. Marie, if he loses a woman everyone after choosing a black woman, what does that say . Marie i dont think joe biden will lose the election. Although its anyones guess. A lot can happen between now and november. Harris do you blame the woman . Marie if it happens, no. Blame the person at the top of the ticket. I have no doubt that harris people vote for the person at the top of the ticket. Right. I expect him to pick a black woman. I expect it to come today or tomorrow. There are impressive folks on the list. I think whoever it is will bring enthusiasm to the ticket and be a partner for joe biden. I want to come out now because im excited to get to talk about it. Im ready. Harris so if joe biden wins or loses and he doesnt pick a black female, was it her fault again . Im trying to figure out if you really merit someone if you really value them, and you want to put them on your ticket, pretty much Everybody Knows that the person that you vote for is at the top of the ticket. I dont understand how this is a repo reformation of them not getting their due in the party. Im curious about that. Is that something that joe biden can fix by just picking one . It sends historical symbol to have the first black woman on the Vice President ial ticket. It was important when we nominated barack obama and when we nominated Hillary Clinton. But its not everything. Its important. I remember when people worked for Pete Buttigieg said it was important to see a gay man be a president ial contender. The symbols do matter and there are a lot of really qualified black women. But at the end of the day people vote for the person at the top of the ticket. I agree with you on that. Harris symbols. Josh, a block woman is a symbol in this scenario. Ill try not to be offended. Josh yeah. Well, look, the great conundrum of democrats in 2020. They care so much about black american women they nominated the oldest white guy in the field. So box yourself in with a choice to say you will nominate an africanamerican woman to the ticket is somehow paying lip service to a sentiment they claim they have. This is a problem were democrats all the way around. I think joe biden made a strategic mistake to make identity the core qualifying aspect to his nominee. Not because it shouldnt be a black woman but it will be the qualifications by way everybody looks at the nomination, which is completely absurd. Harris i find it interesting that the man who was the first black president v. P. Has to be told to hire someone of color, a black woman. I am coming at this with a lot of question. Dagen can we have someone at least talk to the former Vice President about he talks to about black americans from what he said harris ill get him on the phone. We need to have it with him. Dagen can he sit down for an interview with you, please . Harris im asking. Dagen right. Exactly. What he said to chalamayne and then how black americans think versus latino americans talking about referring to someone to his face as, are you a junkie, i think. There is a lot to the Vice President running mate needs to bring to the table. Like energy and to go out there and campaign. And to make sure that the black americans who turned their back on Hillary Clinton and didnt go to the polls. It was one third of the 4. 4 million obama voters in 2012 didnt come out. There is a lot that his running mate will bring to the table here. Look at the women interviewed for the running mate spot. You are getting a good look at what an administration would look like, what a cabinet would look like. Harris here is the president weighing in on joe bidens v. P. Selection. Watch. President trump he roped himself in to a Certain Group of people. He said he had to pick a woman. President trump he said that. People dont vote for the Vice President. They dont. They dont vote for a Vice President. In the end it wont matter. Joe has to stand on his own two feet.

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