Turning onto h street, but you can see the white house lot across Lafayette Square park. That area where you see that largest gathering of people that weve seen on this procession, harris, black lives matter, its really 16th street heading across Lafayette Square to the white house. It has become something larger than just a street. People may contribute to that site, and they want to bring their kids. Some of summer camp groups. There are yo. Some have concern, should to be about yoga . It should be about this movement for racial justice. But i just want to signify that it has become almost like the way we think of charge. A gathering, a communal experience. For so Many Americans go to black lives matter plaza, and thats why mayor bowser washington, d. C. , had invited congas men lewis to come while he was still alive. They took him up onto the rooftops so he could look and see the whole encompassing view of black lives matter written on the ground, and how many people come almost worshipful to celebrate and express their solidarity with the idea of racial equality in america. Something john lewis life personified. Alveda did you hear the song . Harris i did, it was beautiful. Alveda im sorry, go ahead. Harris dont be, its a conversation. You know, juan, i was just going to say that alveda king gave us some homework a few minutes ago along with kennedys homework, too. Describing our legacies as we live our to learn and think about the blm movement and the blm organization. What you sound like you are describing is that overarching movement of supporting each other. Alveda absolutely. I think its an important distinction. I have friends who say there are people in that organization who are marxist, and he wants revolution. All this. I think to myself, its interesting, most americans and most support the black lives Matter Movement are not part of that hierarchy. They are supporting the idea of racial equality in america coming to grips with ongoing racism in this society. Something that would allow a policeman to kneel on George Floyds neck in that way. I think you see it across racial lines, to your point, harris, these demonstrations and i attended some here in washington i would say more than half the crowd was made up of white people. That this is not something that separates us. Idealistically, it is something that brings us together to say, we want to finally deal with this in a significant way. What some call systemic racism. Again, to me, this is the joy of john lewis. That he, john lewis, who represented quite an interracial district in georgia, was very popular with people of all colors and especially, i think, in the church community, because of his deep, deep commitment to nonviolence. Harris yeah. Juan by the way, what you see in the background there is the africanAmerican History museum. Harris yes, and that is their next stop. Let me just preview that for a moment before we bring in my colleague, Chris Wallace. Everyone on the outnumbered virtual couch is staying together for this outnumbered overtime our. The National Museum of africanAmerican History and culture, just a little bit, so you know. After nearly 30 years of advocating for this museum, congressman lewis was there when it opened its doors. He introduced eight bills to create this museum. This man did not know the word stop. Honestly. We know that about him. This museum is the physical embodiment of his dedication come if you will. It opened in 2016, after he began his push for it, 28 years. It is part of the smithsonian museum, and they are also displays featuring lewis civil rights struggles inside its walls. As he often would say, and we heard representative Emanuel Cleaver of kansas city, missouri, tell me this on the air yesterday as we were watching the casket cross, the horsedrawn caisson, across the Edmund Pettus bridge in selma. As he watched that, emmanuel cleaver, congressman of missouri, said, you know, he was so dedicated in those times. He didnt just want his name on things. Not that bridge, necessarily. There were other people who were in the struggle, and thats what this museum meant to him, as well. I want to bring in now Fox News Sunday anchor, Chris Wallace. He and i were angering some of the morning coverage together, as we approach the dependent of justice, chris comes in. Chris chris thank you, harris. It was an honor to coanchor the coverage earlier today with you, and be part of this broadcast. As we head down constitution avenue here to the Justice Department building, it is so interesting, because john lewis was the person who introduced the legislation to rename the Justice Department building for attorney general robert f. Kennedy, John Kennedys brother, who served as attorney general in the early 60s and was such a prime mover in the Civil Rights Movement. Lewis was with Robert Kennedy in indianapolis when Martin Luther king was assassinated in april of 1968, and Bobby Kennedy wanted to go into the inner city in indianapolis, and he was told by the police they are not to go because it was too dangerous. As we know, there were a number of riots all over the country in the wake of mlks assassination. Lewis went with Robert Kennedy there, and he spoke to the crowd about how a white man had killed Martin Luther king, but his brother, john kennedy, had also been killed by a white man, and a lot of people thought that helped prevent the riots in indianapolis that night. Tragically, lewis was with Robert Kennedy in los angeles in june of 68 and was actually in his hotel room waiting for kennedy to come back after his victory in the california primary, and thats when Bobby Kennedy was assassinated. John lewis was with a group of people supporting Robert Kennedy, who never got to see him again because he was then taken to the hospital and passed away soon thereafter. John lewis was there for many of the great and some of the terribly tragic moments of the second half of the 20th century. Melissa spell harris there are severalstoe told seven in total, at least that we know about at this point, along this route. Representative john lewis homegoing, and it routes through washington, d. C. , today. As they do this, the department of justice, as Chris Wallace was telling us, plays a significant role in some of the choices that went into why they stop at certain places. We saw a stop, a pause, and so we drove by the department of justice. Next, the National Counsel of negro women. Representative lewis was involved with his organization on a variety of issues, including getting civil rights icons onto a u. S. Postage stamp. Still with me this hour, Melissa Francis, my partner at noon on the outnumbered, and kennedy. I want to come to you, melissa, just on the ride through here. The people who are out, and a little bit of americana. I am told we may not have her in place just yet. Lets go to chad pergram, our Congressional Correspondent. Melissa oh, im here. Harris oh, you there. Okay. Yes. Melissa yes. Harris chad, standby. Standby one second. Melissa . Melissa is tremendous to watch this. You talk about the crowds out there, you see so many people with their phones out, taking a video and wanting to remember that they were there in person, and they side with their own two eyes. That kind of tells you how important it is. I mean, its one thing to stand there and want something go by, but in this culture i guess it is pretty common that we take pictures and we take videos, but to stand there an intern and sa, i want to remember that i witnessed this first hand. I think the stops were such a tremendous idea, because it shows the different facets of life and the different parts of not just government but of our whole countrys fabric that this life touched. When you see all the different stops, and do see an opportunity to think and reflect on how john lewis made an impact on that legacy, that group of people, that organization, it really shows you what is possible in america. I think that message, given where he started, is so incredibly uplifting and hopeful. That, no matter how beaten down, literally, you feel in your life, and where you are now, where you began, how much you feel, people around you or society is against you, it is possible to summon the strength within you to reach for a different life and to have a very profound impact on those around you. That is the story of america. Harris amen to that. All right, lets get to chad pergram, who is live on capitol hill. Eventually, that is where this motorcade is headed. They were about a minute out before reaching the u. S. Supreme court, where, chad, we are told, they will take a pause. Thats right. The Supreme Court is a little bit across the way here, across the plaza. This is the north side of the capitol. When the motorcade comes in, itll come in off constitution avenue and then come from north to south, to the middle of the building. Youll probably see some of the military honor guard massing right there by those steps. That is where they will carry up the casket into Capitol Rotunda. They will have the ceremony there, starting at about 1 30, 1 35 p. M. Both the house and senate will lay wreaths there, and then the one thing that will happen later this afternoon, they are going to bring that casket back outside. The problem was that, with the pandemic going on, they cant have people filing through the Capitol Rotunda. Under normal circumstances, that would be about 2,000 persons per hour. They thought they could get it down to 200 persons, but even the u. S. Capitol attending physician, im told, is uncomfortable with having some of the people outside. They didnt want to do that. After they do that, bring that casket outside, people will be able to file past outdoors here, practicing social distancing later tonight from about 6 00, 6 30, until 10 00. They will resume tomorrow at 8 00 in the morning, and then on wednesday morning they will depart for atlanta. That is where john lewis will find his final resting space. Again, this is going to be very different than most lying in states here at capitol hill. The fact that they will have these folks out. That east portico, i should note, is an important spot. That is where they use to swear in president s. They used to do it on the side of the capitol. Some years ago they put it across on the mall side. This is a prominent location here on capitol hill. Two little footnotes here, as members of congress, the small group that is being allowed inside the rotunda there. We are told a couple of them, cedric richman, democrat of louisiana, and also mississippis bennie thompson, they are Wearing Masks which say good trouble. That was john lewis expression. Make good trouble. He would say you might get in trouble for doing something, but youre doing the right thing if you are pushing for justice, harris. Harris yes, in fact, his family wore the tshirts on the Edmund Pettus bridge yesterday that had that same iconic saying. That good trouble, as you so profoundly put it, had to do with fighting for the things that are about justice and freedom and being willing to know and recognize that there will be some pushback for that, but meet it nonviolently. Chad pergram, thank you. We may come back to you as the news warrants on all of this. We are watching now the motorcade that is carrying the casket of congressman john lewis of georgia to lie in state at the u. S. Capitol, inside the rotunda. You heard some of these, the physicality that is necessary now for social distancing. Maskwearing, all of that, coming from chad. He did a great job, chad did, telling us all the things that have gone into making this a safe occasion. Not nearly enough room for everybody who would want to show up great organizers, authorities are aware of that, but they are doing their best to open it up to those they can and make it safe, as well. Next is the u. S. Supreme court. We are told they will pause. I still have my friend and cohort, coasts and partner, from outnumbered come along this are. Kennedy , if you still with me, i want to get your thoughts as we enter the grounds of the u. S. Supreme court. Kennedy yes, and emblazoned on the building is equal justice under the law. That is the reason they are stopping there. Because that is what this fight for john lewis has been all about. Equal justice under the law. All human beings, men and women, regardless of whether or not you were born here, your race, your religion, that you are treated equally under the law in these United States. Youve talked so much about nonviolence, and i would like some of the protesters who are trying to hurt people and Kill Police Officers to look at this mans legacy and see what it means to affect change nonviolently. That oftentimes is a much harder thing to do. Also make note that protect and respect, his casket is guarded by Law Enforcement. That is something that is very deliberate. You can see again, perhaps that is a visual olive branch that his family is offering, that Law Enforcement is guiding law enforcemenjohn lewis on hisy through washington, d. C. , and maybe its a way of bringing us together and calming down some of the rhetoric and attention right now. Harris alveda king is with us, too. Alveda, your thoughts . Alveda i would like to just that point about Law Enforcement, sometimes they are needed. And they have families, they are people who love and care about them. All Law Enforcement is not bad. Most of those who are in that force are good. He just take care of the ones who are not, and then you regard and seek when they are needed. I would like to mention about the social distancing, and the wearing of the mask and et cetera. The mask is not necessarily a gag. It shouldnt silence her voice for kindness, for love, for goodness. Even though we have to wear these masks during the pandemic, let us keep our voices in concert for unity. There was movement for when i was a lot younger, he had worn a mask unjustly. He look at him and he said, i wear the mask. The mask does not wear me. We should still do the social distancing. Please wear the mask when you need to. Please be respectful to Law Enforcement. We are honoring the legacy of a peaceful, nonviolent warrior. I want to encourage everyone to be orderly during this time. Harris amen. Alveda king, so glad youre with us today. We are now very close to the u. S. Capital. I want to bring in Fox News Sunday anchor, Chris Wallace. Chris, we have seen the traffic of just people standing more than anything else along the route, as the motorcade has made a couple of pauses and stops. Americans coming together as wee head to the capitol. Chris yes, indeed. Because of covid, because so may people are teleworking, the crowds upon capitol hill at midday, even in 100degree plus heat, a much smaller than they would normally be on a regular working day. Remember when we used to have regular working days . And itll be interesting to see i think they made a wise decision that the casket will be on the east front outside, and people will be social distanced as they get to go past the casket for about four hours this evening, and much longer tomorrow. But ive to think that, if it werent for the coronavirus that we are going through right now, the crowds of americans black, white, young, old, all races, all creeds, all colors that would be filing past to honor this legendary figure, really a touchstone for the last halfcentury or more in American History would be even greater. Yes, he will be paid all the honors that we should pay, but because of the situation that we are in right now, you wont get quite the public attendance that i think you would have gotten if we werent in the throes of this coronavirus right now. I think they would be huge crowds of people coming to pay tribute to john lewis, and perhaps will be pleasantly surprised. Despite all the obstacles, that there still will be big crowds to come to see him. Harris you know, chris, im curious to know what you have learned about the actual ceremony that will happen at the u. S. Capital. We have seen the caskets and leadership for the past lie in state. This is the first africanamerican to do so, inside the u. S. Capitol rotunda. Youve been there the seminal moments as they kick things off, if you will. What does the ceremony look li like . Chris the host will be speaker pelosi. Because, of course, john lewis was a member of the house, not of the senate. She will introduce the ceremony. Itll be a small group of people, just a few select, again, because of social distancing. She will speak, the Senate Majority leader, mitch mcconnell, will speak. They will be performances of a couple of songs, especially amazing grace, which im sure will be deeply moving there in the capital. Its not supposed to be a terribly long service, about half an hour. And then, because, again, of this question of social distancing, normally in the situation you would have the entire house, all the 435 members, gathered together. All 100 senators crowded together. You wont have at this time. They are only going to allow a select group in, and after the ceremony ends, than they are going to go through in a physical count on. I think about 70 members at a time, starting k through f. They will come through for socially distant voting to go pay their respects to thomas and lewis, on and on it, and the same with the senate. Even after the ceremony is over, there will be people for at least another hour paying their respects, to john robert lewis. Harris Chris Wallace, standing by, along with my cohost from outnumbered and other guests at this point. We are going to pause for just a moment to lead our fox stations, our broadcast stations, join us. And that pause, you will hear a bit of silence. They will fold in, and the hearse carrying representative john lewis will pull interview here. When it does, we will immediately be taking that, lower our voices. You can listen to some of whats going on there. Lets do it now. A pause now. This is fox News Coverage of the life and legacy of congressman john lewis, as his casket is arriving at the u. S. A capitol where he will lie in state. He will first be inside the Capitol Rotunda, and then, for covid19 restrictions, moved outside so that there can be, on the east front outside, so there can be more people to be able to pay their respects. As his hearse pulls up, it has been quite an afternoon already with stops at mlk memorial, lincoln memorial, black lives matter, black lives matter plaza. The National Women of africanAmerican History and culture, the u. S. Supreme court, the deferment of justice, and now the u. S. Capitol. And we will take a moment, because sometimes in the silence there is news. Sometimes in the silence there is a moment of coming together. As they pull up to the u. S. Capitol, they will be greeted by a contingent, along with them will be the speaker of the house, nancy pelosi. You just heard Chris Wallace and i talking about this. Very important to note, i have said that congressman john lewis would be the first africanamerican to lie in state inside the u. S. Capitol. Not long ago, we said goodbye to representative Elijah Cummings, who also lay in state, however, at the House Chamber. We want to talk with his wife right now. The widow of the Late Congress and Elijah Cummings, who passed away last year, is with me now. Congressman cummings, again, was the first lawmakers be honored by lying in state at statuary hall at the nations capital, and in the House Chamber, as well. Maya, are you with me . I am, thank you so much for having me. Harris absolutely. You witnessed a friendship between representative cummings and representative lewis. Tell us about it. Yeah. So, they looked so much alike, they focused on so many of the same issues, they were passionate about civil rights and human rights, and social justice, and the quest for liberty and justice for all here in america. They were both dedicated to making sure that we had a more perfect union, and they both laid down their lives at very young ages in order to move america forward. They were both descendants of slaves. They both grew up in the jim crow south. They both got their heads bashed in by people who are against integration in our society, and they both were destined to become legislators who changed the course of history here in the United States of america. It is really sad that only ten months ago we have john lewis actually passing away, only ten months apart from Elijah Cummings. Yes, you are right, john lewis is the first africanamerican to lie in state in the rotunda. Elijah actually lie in state in the statuary hall, which is a little bit off the rotunda. We have these two great men who are being honored by an america that once turned their backs on them. So, we know that redemption is a story of america, that it is possible to move forward from a legacy that is included, heinous things like slavery, lynching, state sanctioned violence and segregation. Theyve committed themselves to making sure their country moves forward, that progress is possible. A nation of people who can live together. Black, brown, white. Every color, every creed, living together. We certainly find ourselves here at a time and moment in our history where we will continue to confront the crisis of the past. I know that, with john lewis passing, and Elijah Cummings passing, both serving as a bridge to the 20th century, basically bringing the Civil Rights Movement to its current form and certainly both of them supporting the black lives Matter Movement. So we can continue to forge toward this more perfect union. I think its incredible poignant that we are here today to honor john lewis. His life, his legacy. He was a true patriot, someone who loved america, and someone who was absolutely committed to the future of our democracy. Harris i am doing right now by a Maya Rockeymoore cummings, the widow of representative Elijah Cummings, and she reminds us that it was only ten months ago that we lost him. A friend of representative john lewis. And just how you talk about where their histories crossed, and how much they had in common in terms of, maya, i would think, how their perspectives were shaped on nonviolence and love, and patience, and change, all of it. You said redemption is the story of america. I think thats a great message for today. Thank you for being with me, and thank you for your time and your memories. Thank you for having me. Harris i want to bring in back in Chris Wallace. Chris, we have reached that moment that you and i have been talking about since this morning, live on television. We are at the state capitol. John lewis has arrived. His final time in washington, d. C. Chris and just to give people a sense of the scene here, this location here on the east front of the capitol is where, after the inauguration, the old president , the former president , and the new president walked down the steps in the former president gets in a helicopter and leaves washington, goes to Andrews Air Force base. While this is not where the inaugurations are held anymore they are held in the west front starting in 1981 with ronald reagan, which has that beautiful view down the National Mall and off to the west to the rest of the country this east front, as you see there with those steps, is the ceremonial front of the capitol. The ceremonial side of the capitol. This is where the casket of john f. Kennedy was taken up the steps, after his assassination in 1963. And this is where john lewis casket will be taken up those steps, and lie in state. In fact, it will lie on the lincoln platform, the wooden platform that held the casket of abraham lincoln, also held the casket of john f. Kennedy in 1963, and now will hold the casket of john robert lewis. In 2020. It plays its own part in history. There are so many wonderful stories about john lewis, i just want to tell one quick one. As a little boy, he was the son of sharecroppers in a very rural part of alabama, and his nickname was preacher. His job on the farm as a sharecroppers son was to take care of the chickens, and he apparently decided that he was going to be the preacher to the chickens, and so he would baptize the chickens, he would preach the bible to the chickens, and when they died he would give them elaborate funerals. So his family knew him as preacher. I think at one point there was some thought that if he did intend ceremony he would go into a religious calling. But he found a calling first and civil rights, and social justice, that movement. Then, eventually, in 1986, being elected to congress and spending 34 years as a member of congress. He started out as preacher lewis for a bunch of chickens on a sharecroppers farm in rural alabama. Harris we will bring a now Congressional Correspondent chad pergram, who is live on capitol hill. I understand that the motorcade is behind you, or quite near you, chad. Thats right. Its probably about, oh, 70 yards in that direction here toward the center of the building. You can probably see some of the folks there waiting to take the casket up into the Capitol Rotunda here. This is a very solemn ceremony. When they do one of these, it takes quite a long time. Theres a lot of marking of time as they pulled the casket out of the earth, and they very carefully take the casket up the steps. Sometimes in august you will see them actually practicing to do this. I remember that, when president ford died in december of 2006, it was bitterly cold and they actually brought up his casket up the house steps because he was a member of the house, the House Minority leader. They do practice this from time to time. Again, the difference and we are going to see here is, after they move the casket inside and they have that ceremony starting around 1 30, 1 35 p. M. Or so, theyll bring it outside later this afternoon. We are expecting joe biden to come by later this afternoon to pay his respects, as well as Vice President mike pence. Its going to look very different here later in the evening as they start to allow the public to come by and pay their respects. They would bring you into the capitol visitors center, checking through security, and cycle about 2,000 person part or less per hour. I was told as they started to crunch the numbers there they said that even with social distancing they can only do 200. They were very concerned about doing it outside, because its so hot out here today. There is a searing sunshine yet again and this capital plaza, it reflects the sun and gets very hot here. Weve seen people waiting. Our member during president reagans memorial back in i guess it was in 2004, june of 2004, that some of the honor guard standing along constitution avenue, because it was so hot, fainted while they were waiting for the caisson to be brought up the hill here. Something that Chris Wallace talked about, about how scarce the crowds are going to be because of the pandemic, that is significant. When i walked into the capitol this morning, we have a big event like this, theres usually a buzz. There was just not a buzz there today because most of the people had been working from home. Thousand members were asked to file in in these groups of six as they come into the House Chamber to vote, and its a very different kind of service that we are having here. We talk about lewis lying in state and the Capitol Rotunda, and you talked about Elijah Cummings, his friend, lying in state, but not in the Capitol Rotunda. In statuary hall and by the old House Chamber. They are been to other who have lain in honor. Thats one level below will tell michael i and see. Rosa parks, and jacob chestnut. He was u. S. Capitol police officer, very close to that door it dominic knew the steps, he was shot in the sheet out here in 1998. He was the first to line honor and in a composition inside the Capitol Rotunda. Again, this will be a somber day here on capitol hill. The house is basically out until thursday. They canceled a major hearing today with big tech executives dominic executives because they wanted today to be about Elijah Cummings. Axes may come about john lewis. Im very sorry. Harris i want to ask you, chad pergram, about the delay we are seeing here. They have covered so much ground, and pretty impressively have been very close to being on schedule. But we are in pause mode right now. You are on the ground, im curious to know if you can tell us anything about this pause mode. If, in fact, there is any significance to it. I cant hear. Harris okay. We will let chad pergram go. He may not know exactly why we are in pause mode. It certainly does seem that there is some official nature about it. Nobody is dispersing, everybody is still ready to go in this moment. As soon as the ceremony begins, you will see. The back door of the hearse is already open, the casket of representative lewis is there. They have not removed that, they have not taken it into the Capitol Rotunda yet. You will see an area just up beyond the columns there on the capitol, thats where we believe they will pause for the beginning of the ceremony. Look at the small right box at the bottom of your screen. That is the u. S. Rotunda, the Capitol Rotunda, and that blank spot on the center of the screen, obviously, where the casket will be placed. They seem to already be socially distance they are, and they will get to that as it happens. I want to let everybody know, this is a pause. We dont know how deliberate or significant it is, but in this time we have an opportunity to talk with Steve Schapiro, a photographer and activist who photographed john lewis in 1963 during the Civil Rights Movement marchs. You are with me, but im curious, there are so many images today, and you have taken so many images. Tell me about the photographic journey to get to this point. I started with reading the introduction to his book, which started with two essays in the new yorker. I asked if i could do an essay on him, and i spent a month traveling with him. In that time, made a lo met a lt of civil rights leaders. I was in new york, and i was never quite aware of the reality of the situation. The reality of the situation in the south was pretty bad. When i saw that, i decided that this was something i wanted to come back to time after time, and many leaders, many people. Basically, from that, i met john lewis. I met him in 1963. He was taking a group of ministers into a church in clarksdale, mississippi. We stopped and talked and i took a picture which im really happy about, which is that horizontal picture. There is something about john in that picture where you can see this is a man who knows who he is, and seemed to know what he wanted to do in life, what he had to do in life. John was very responsible for the Voting Rights act. He was constantly into situations where he had been battered. Two concussions, 40 arrests. His life was about accomplishing something regardless of everything. He was a warrior, and at the same time he was a preacher and the prophet. Harris steve, we are looking at some of the pictures that you took, and they are beautiful. We really appreciate your perspective on this day. There is an image that shares the screen with you right now. I dont know if you can see it, steve shapiro, but we can now see the open hearse, the casket carrying representative lewis, in the back of that hearse as we remain perched. Much like steve would be with his camera if you are there today, waiting for the next moment of movement. Steve, thanks for being with me. I want to bring back now alveda kang, and i think Juan Williams and Melissa Francis are still with me from the hour of outnumbered. We have reached that moment, alveda, where we will take a collective breath and exhale, because we know that now this is the time where the American Public can start to fold and even more. Fewer of them along the motorcade, but once this welcoming ceremony ends and they set that casket in the center of the u. S. Capitol rotunda, and then move it outside to the east front side of the capital dominic capitol so people can socially distanced , thats the point at which the public is invited to take a role in all of this. Alveda . Alveda harris, you know i am a christian evangelist and i come from a family of baptist keepers dominic preachers. The bible talks about seasons. John lewis has run his course very, very strong way, and we are remembering that the bible says there is a time to plant and a time to harvest. A time to weep, and a time to rejoice. A time to live, and a time to die. We are nearing that conclusion, with congressman lewis. He is deeply remembered by so many of us, and he is an icon. The word doesnt even sound suspicious. However, i want to remind us that he really was nonviolent. He was a peaceful warrior. He longed for unity among humanity. That is very true. I remember the times that i did speak with john, and it was through the years, but we mostly talked about family. How is your mother . During the life from his wife, i would say, how is lillian . How is she doing . We were cordial, even though we didnt agree politically and philosophically. But that doesnt mean that we could not love, regard, and admire each other. I want us to remember that there is a move through this Human Experience in the way that john lewis did. He did it peacefully, nonviolently, and he was not a retaliatory kind of person. I believe we can learn a lot from his legacy. Harris kennedy, i want to come to you for your final thoughts in this journey. Kennedy we are going to hear Senate Majority leader mitch mcconnell. We will also hear from House Speaker nancy pelosi. These are two legislators who have known him, as well. Im looking forward to what they have to say and how his life moved them personally. I really want them to take me somewhere, and i want them to see this day has been punctuated by so many beautiful visuals, and now i want their words to lift us even further. I want them to take us somewhere. Im expecting something, and i want to see this mans life encapsulated by people who knew him and worked alongside him well. Harris gosh, you know, i hear you. I think i know you well enough to know what youre asking. You want all of us, as human beings, to rise to this occasion. Because they dont often do that sometimes on capitol hill. I know there are probably people who are politicians who want to throw something at the screen, but come on, lets call it what it is. What youre saying is that this moment lead you. Kennedy yes, and lets see if it can elevate the tenor of the conversation we are having in this country right now, because sometimes it doesnt feel like a conversation. It feels like a screaming match. Lets soften it a little bit and have a pause, have a moment, and give way to some of the music and words that do have the power to elevate. Thank you, harass. Harris thank you, kennedy, so much. Juan williams, also from outnumbered today, staying for outnumbered overtime this hour. Most differences with me, alveda king, kennedy. We are taking a pause, juan. We dont know in the schedule, and significance of this. But we do know that they had to get the family seated on the inside, and there were 46 people on the tarmac as they were getting ready for that motorcade a couple hours ago. We know what that looked like, and it may take a moment, particularly given all of the covid19 restrictions of social distancing. We saw the seats, maybe the team can take a sidebyside view inside the u. S. Capitol rotunda. You can see where people will have to kind of be seated there. It does take a moment to pull all of this together, and as that happens we will stand by. As soon as the ceremony gets started, it will do so. Now, john lewis casket, they have opened the back of that hearse. It is an extremely warm day, 10. Dont know what the heat index is in the very almost always humid nations capital, but you can see the color guard off to the bottom left. We know that when they start to move we have watched this a couple times today that is when this, in general, will be underway. Juan . Juan well, harris, i was thinking, as we wait, that this is a moment when we can think that the generation, a signal generation and the American History, the civil rights generation, is passing on. He is the last of what they call the big 6th who spoke at the march on washington. We are thinking about people like james forman, we are thinking about, of course, dr. King, but also a. Philip randolph, roy wilkins. These are people who made history. You think about the fact that c. T. Vivian, a key lieutenant to dr. King, died the same day as john lewis. A generations passing, or you think back to some of the people that he worked with when he was involved with the march in alabama. And you think about people like the unitarian white minister who was killed supporting the Civil Rights Movement and the right to vote. Or jimmy leave jackson, a young black man who was killed again by violence. As he was trying to stand up for people and say, its time for the right to vote. You heard that there was nobody in that county, no black person, who could vote. And the power of this generation that we are seeing pass and i say that in terms of it being personified by john lewis is a generation that brought about black political opportunity, in terms of john lewis being in congress, and now we see him being honored by our nations top legislative body today. But its also, if you stuck in tostop and think about someone like barack obama, like colin p, condoleezza rice, who rose in terms of opportunity to be National Security advisor, secretary of state, that presence of africanamericans in leadership in america was made possible by this generation that is passing on, and by this man we honor today, john lewis. Harris our mike emanuel is live on capitol hill. I know you are taking a look today at our recent history with lying in state. And, if you will, saying goodbye to figures who have so changed america. Bring us up to speed on what is recovering to being covered today. It strikes me that in this country dont have royalty, but moments like this is as close as americans get to royalty. Its not something every american president has. Its unique moment in American History. I remember being out here for senator john mccain, and later that year president George Herbert walker bush, december of 2018, and its really an extra ordinary moment when you consider the precision of the motorcades, the priests to significance of the stops made along the way, the precision of the military folks in dress uniform on a blistering hot day, how they work the extra mile to make it a Perfect Moment for the lewis family but also for the american people. Thinking back to congressman lewis in his final years here on capitol hill, 17 terms on capitol hill, it struck me that he was quite often, to use a baseball term, the closer on the democratic side. Both parties would be arguing back and forth over a particular issue, and near the end of the debate you would see congressman lewis come to the floor, make a passionate appeal for what he believed, and then he would see the republicans, and talk to republican sources afterward, they would say, we didnt have anything to counter that. So he would put an exclamation n point on a lot of the debates here on capitol hill. A fitting tribute to a giant here on capitol hill, and a civil rights icon. A moving moment, as you see these military personnel in dress uniform escort a casket of the east front of the capitol to allow the dignitaries and also the American Public to say farewell. Harris . Harris mike emanuel, thank you very much for all of that information and perspective. Appreciate it today. Very, very important. We are going to take a look inside the u. S. Capitol rotunda now. You see several people are seated, you see the berth in the center of the rotunda where they will place the casket of congressman john lewis. You see the tradition mike emanuel was telling us about pay great instruction in his words as he knits history with the present on how these things go. You see the lectern right in the center, the man is kind of center right now because the shot moved. And he heard kennedy moments ago calling for taking us into the moment by the leadership on the hill. Sam majority leader mitch mcconnell, House Speaker nancy pelosi, kennedy saying it would be wonderful for them to take us into this moment and remind us how they all shared history with john lewis. I am paraphrasing kennedy a bit here, but i thought those words are so important. Melissa francis is with me, too. Melissa, it really impressed upon me that these are huge moments. Meeting them with just the right words is, you know, pressure for some. Pressure is a privilege, and hopefully we will get to see that going as they continue to seat the family right now, moments away. We will take everybody their lives. Melissa . Melissa you know, i wouldnt think its much of a challenge with the legacy this man leaves behind, and the visuals weve seen to bring words come to match them. I think the symbolism of the location that john lewis fought his way into, if you think about you mentioned earlier that he was trying to fight his way into college, where he wasnt allowed to go. He wanted to fight his way into the voting booth. These are locations school, the voting booth that a lot of people today take for granted. He fought for his right to be in those places, and for everyone who followed him. Now, as we look at the location on our screen, this is the highest honor. This is a location that very few people ever achieve, to lie in state and the Capitol Rotunda. As you have explained to us. If you just sort of put those images sidebyside, the idea that he fought for things to be in places that we now consider basic, so many people pass up their right to vote on that day comes around. And here is someone who mentioned suffered so many arrests, so many concussions, peacefully fought and endured in order to be in those places, and now in a location where almost no one gets to lie in state. I think that symbolism is really astounding. Harris you talk about all the different symbols and the things between the labs of what we see. Weve got Steve Schapiro with us, melissa, and he took so many hard moving pictures of Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s. Among those images were some of her presented of john lewis. Steve shapiro, youre still with me . Yes, i am. Harris you are able to capture so many images that talked about the symbolism that my cohost Melissa Francis was just mentioning. What were some of the iconic moments . We have images to put on the screen that we have taken. More pictures of you with john lewis, and of your work of him. Im just curious, what were some of your favorites . In terms of john lewis, one of my favorite pictures, we went to a conference in memory of 50 years ago. Martin luther king had brought his papers there, and john lewis, first of all, was talking there. There were other speakers, and john lewis got up to talk, and it was like theater. He was a very quiet man, as anybody attacks him verbally or anything, he would just smile at them. There was so much intensity, and so much emotion, it was amazing. Julian bond had just died, and it was a little late. John lewis came out to that, and he dropped petals into that lake in memory of julian bond. That was an extremely touching moment. Especially since they once ran against each other for congress. And he certainly had the congress seat, and john lewis succeeded winning it. His way with people so kind and so gentle, yet the force that he had in accomplishing what he knew had to be done, the way he was so nonviolent despite how much abuse he took, how many times harris steve shapiro, we have reached a moment that we need to lower our voices and take this in. With us being silent in the moment of speaking. Present arms forward march. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Ready, step. Forward. Walk on. March
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