Turning onto h street, but you can see the white house lot across Lafayette Square park. That area where you see that largest gathering of people that weve seen on this procession, harris, black lives matter, its really 16th street heading across Lafayette Square to the white house. It has become something larger than just a street. People may contribute to that site, and they want to bring their kids. Some of summer camp groups. There are yo. Some have concern, should to be about yoga . It should be about this movement for racial justice. But i just want to signify that it has become almost like the way we think of charge. A gathering, a communal experience. For so Many Americans go to black lives matter plaza, and thats why mayor bowser washington, d. C. , had invited congas men lewis to come while he was still alive. They took him up onto the rooftops so he could look and see the whole encompassing view of black lives matter written on the ground, and how many people come almost worshipful to celebrate and express their solidarity with the idea of racial equality in america. Something john lewis life personified. Alveda did you hear the song . Harris i did, it was beautiful. Alveda im sorry, go ahead. Harris dont be, its a conversation. You know, juan, i was just going to say that alveda king gave us some homework a few minutes ago along with kennedys homework, too. Describing our legacies as we live our to learn and think about the blm movement and the blm organization. What you sound like you are describing is that overarching movement of supporting each other. Alveda absolutely. I think its an important distinction. I have friends who say there are people in that organization who are marxist, and he wants revolution. All this. I think to myself, its interesting, most americans and most support the black lives Matter Movement are not part of that hierarchy. They are supporting the idea of racial equality in america coming to grips with ongoing racism in this society. Something that would allow a policeman to kneel on George Floyds neck in that way. I think you see it across racial lines, to your point, harris, these demonstrations and i attended some here in washington i would say more than half the crowd was made up of white people. That this is not something that separates us. Idealistically, it is something that brings us together to say, we want to finally deal with this in a significant way. What some call systemic racism. Again, to me, this is the joy of john lewis. That he, john lewis, who represented quite an interracial district in georgia, was very popular with people of all colors and especially, i think, in the church community, because of his deep, deep commitment to nonviolence. Harris yeah. Juan by the way, what you see in the background there is the africanAmerican History museum. Harris yes, and that is their next stop. Let me just preview that for a moment before we bring in my colleague, Chris Wallace. Everyone on the outnumbered virtual couch is staying together for this outnumbered overtime our. The National Museum of africanAmerican History and culture, just a little bit, so you know. After nearly 30 years of advocating for this museum, congressman lewis was there when it opened its doors. He introduced eight bills to create this museum. This man did not know the word stop. Honestly. We know that about him. This museum is the physical embodiment of his dedication come if you will. It opened in 2016, after he began his push for it, 28 years. It is part of the smithsonian museum, and they are also displays featuring lewis civil rights struggles inside its walls. As he often would say, and we heard representative Emanuel Cleaver of kansas city, missouri, tell me this on the air yesterday as we were watching the casket cross, the horsedrawn caisson, across the Edmund Pettus bridge in selma. As he watched that, emmanuel cleaver, congressman of missouri, said, you know, he was so dedicated in those times. He didnt just want his name on things. Not that bridge, necessarily. There were other people who were in the struggle, and thats what this museum meant to him, as well. I want to bring in now Fox News Sunday anchor, Chris Wallace. He and i were angering some of the morning coverage together, as we approach the dependent of justice, chris comes in. Chris chris thank you, harris. It was an honor to coanchor the coverage earlier today with you, and be part of this broadcast. As we head down constitution avenue here to the Justice Department building, it is so interesting, because john lewis was the person who introduced the legislation to rename the Justice Department building for attorney general robert f. Kennedy, John Kennedys brother, who served as attorney general in the early 60s and was such a prime mover in the Civil Rights Movement. Lewis was with Robert Kennedy in indianapolis when Martin Luther king was assassinated in april of 1968, and Bobby Kennedy wanted to go into the inner city in indianapolis, and he was told by the police they are not to go because it was too dangerous. As we know, there were a number of riots all over the country in the wake of mlks assassination. Lewis went with Robert Kennedy there, and he spoke to the crowd about how a white man had killed Martin Luther king, but his brother, john kennedy, had also been killed by a white man, and a lot of people thought that helped prevent the riots in indianapolis that night. Tragically, lewis was with Robert Kennedy in los angeles in june of 68 and was actually in his hotel room waiting for kennedy to come back after his victory in the california primary, and thats when Bobby Kennedy was assassinated. John lewis was with a group of people supporting Robert Kennedy, who never got to see him again because he was then taken to the hospital and passed away soon thereafter. John lewis was there for many of the great and some of the terribly tragic moments of the second half of the 20th century. Melissa spell harris there are severalstoe told seven in total, at least that we know about at this point, along this route. Representative john lewis homegoing, and it routes through washington, d. C. , today. As they do this, the department of justice, as Chris Wallace was telling us, plays a significant role in some of the choices that went into why they stop at certain places. We saw a stop, a pause, and so we drove by the department of justice. Next, the National Counsel of negro women. Representative lewis was involved with his organization on a variety of issues, including getting civil rights icons onto a u. S. Postage stamp. Still with me this hour, Melissa Francis, my partner at noon on the outnumbered, and kennedy. I want to come to you, melissa, just on the ride through here. The people who are out, and a little bit of americana. I am told we may not have her in place just yet. Lets go to chad pergram, our Congressional Correspondent. Melissa oh, im here. Harris oh, you there. Okay. Yes. Melissa yes. Harris chad, standby. Standby one second. Melissa . Melissa is tremendous to watch this. You talk about the crowds out there, you see so many people with their phones out, taking a video and wanting to remember that they were there in person, and they side with their own two eyes. That kind of tells you how important it is. I mean, its one thing to stand there and want something go by, but in this culture i guess it is pretty common that we take pictures and we take videos, but to stand there an intern and sa, i want to remember that i witnessed this first hand. I think the stops were such a tremendous idea, because it shows the different facets of life and the different parts of not just government but of our whole countrys fabric that this life touched. When you see all the different stops, and do see an opportunity to think and reflect on how john lewis made an impact on that legacy, that group of people, that organization, it really shows you what is possible in america. I think that message, given where he started, is so incredibly uplifting and hopeful. That, no matter how beaten down, literally, you feel in your life, and where you are now, where you began, how much you feel, people around you or society is against you, it is possible to summon the strength within you to reach for a different life and to have a very profound impact on those around you. That is the story of america. Harris amen to that. All right, lets get to chad pergram, who is live on capitol hill. Eventually, that is where this motorcade is headed. They were about a minute out before reaching the u. S. Supreme court, where, chad, we are told, they will take a pause. Thats right. The Supreme Court is a little bit across the way here, across the plaza. This is the north side of the capitol. When the motorcade comes in, itll come in off constitution avenue and then come from north to south, to the middle of the building. Youll probably see some of the military honor guard massing right there by those steps. That is where they will carry up the casket into Capitol Rotunda. They will have the ceremony there, starting at about 1 30, 1 35 p. M. Both the house and senate will lay wreaths there, and then the one thing that will happen later this afternoon, they are going to bring that casket back outside. The problem was that, with the pandemic going on, they cant have people filing through the Capitol Rotunda. Under normal circumstances, that would be about 2,000 persons per hour. They thought they could get it down to 200 persons, but even the u. S. Capitol attending physician, im told, is uncomfortable with having some of the people outside. They didnt want to do that. After they do that, bring that casket outside, people will be able to file past outdoors here, practicing social distancing later tonight from about 6 00, 6 30, until 10 00. They will resume tomorrow at 8 00 in the morning, and then on wednesday morning they will depart for atlanta. That is where john lewis will find his final resting space. Again, this is going to be very different than most lying in states here at capitol hill. The fact that they will have these folks out. That east portico, i should note, is an important spot. That is where they use to swear in president s. They used to do it on the side of the capitol. Some years ago they put it across on the mall side. This is a prominent location here on capitol hill. Two little footnotes here, as members of congress, the small group that is being allowed inside the rotunda there. We are told a couple of them, cedric richman, democrat of louisiana, and also mississippis bennie thompson, they are Wearing Masks which say good trouble. That was john lewis expression. Make good trouble. He would say you might get in trouble for doing something, but youre doing the right thing if you are pushing for justice, harris. Harris yes, in fact, his family wore the tshirts on the Edmund Pettus bridge yesterday that had that same iconic saying. That good trouble, as you so profoundly put it, had to do with fighting for the things that are about justice and freedom and being willing to know and recognize that there will be some pushback for that, but meet it nonviolently. Chad pergram, thank you. We may come back to you as the news warrants on all of this. We are watching now the motorcade that is carrying the casket of congressman john lewis of georgia to lie in state at the u. S. Capitol, inside the rotunda. You heard some of these, the physicality that is necessary now for social distancing. Maskwearing, all of that, coming from chad. He did a great job, chad did, telling us all the things that have gone into making this a safe occasion. Not nearly enough room for everybody who would want to show up great organizers, authorities are aware of that, but they are doing their best to open it up to those they can and make it safe, as well. Next is the u. S. Supreme court. We are told they will pause. I still have my friend and cohort, coasts and partner, from outnumbered come along this are. Kennedy , if you still with me, i want to get your thoughts as we enter the grounds of the u. S. Supreme court. Kennedy yes, and emblazoned on the building is equal justice under the law. That is the reason they are stopping there. Because that is what this fight for john lewis has been all about. Equal justice under the law. All human beings, men and women, regardless of whether or not you were born here, your race, your religion, that you are treated equally under the law in these United States. Youve talked so much about nonviolence, and i would like some of the protesters who are trying to hurt people and Kill Police Officers to look at this mans legacy and see what it means to affect change nonviolently. That oftentimes is a much harder thing to do. Also make note that protect and respect, his casket is guarded by Law Enforcement. That is something that is very deliberate. You can see again, perhaps that is a visual olive branch that his family is offering, that Law Enforcement is guiding law enforcemenjohn lewis on hisy through washington, d. C. , and maybe its a way of bringing us together and calming down some of the rhetoric and attention right now. Harris alveda king is with us, too. Alveda, your thoughts . Alveda i would like to just that point about Law Enforcement, sometimes they are needed. And they have families, they are people who love and care about them. All Law Enforcement is not bad. Most of those who are in that force are good. He just take care of the ones who are not, and then you regard and seek when they are needed. I would like to mention about the social distancing, and the wearing of the mask and et cetera. The mask is not necessarily a gag. It shouldnt silence her voice for kindness, for love, for goodness. Even though we have to wear these masks during the pandemic, let us keep our voices in concert for unity. There was movement for when i was a lot younger, he had worn a mask unjustly. He look at him and he said, i wear the mask. The mask does not wear me. We should still do the social distancing. Please wear the mask when you need to. Please be respectful to Law Enforcement. We are honoring the legacy of a peaceful, nonviolent warrior. I want to encourage everyone to be orderly during this time. Harris amen. Alveda king, so glad youre with us today. We are now very close to the u. S. Capital. I want to bring in Fox News Sunday anchor, Chris Wallace. Chris, we have seen the traffic of just people standing more than anything else along the route, as the motorcade has made a couple of pauses and stops. Americans coming together as wee head to the capitol. Chris yes, indeed. Because of covid, because so may people are teleworking, the crowds upon capitol hill at midday, even in 100degree plus heat, a much smaller than they would normally be on a regular working day. Remember when we used to have regular working days . And itll be interesting to see i think they made a wise decision that the casket will be on the east front outside, and people will be social distanced as they get to go past the casket for about four hours this evening, and much longer tomorrow. But ive to think that, if it werent for the coronavirus that we are going through right now, the crowds of americans black, white, young, old, all races, all creeds, all colors that would be filing past to honor this legendary figure, really a touchstone for the last halfcentury or more in American History would be even greater. Yes, he will be paid all the honors that we should pay, but because of the situation that we are in right now, you wont get quite the public attendance that i think you would have gotten if we werent in the throes of this coronavirus right now. I think they would be huge crowds of people coming to pay tribute to john lewis, and perhaps will be pleasantly surprised. Despite all the obstacles, that there still will be big crowds to come to see him. Harris you know, chris, im curious to know what you have learned about the actual ceremony that will happen at the u. S. Capital. We have seen the caskets and leadership for the past lie in state. This is the first africanamerican to do so, inside the u. S. Capitol rotunda. Youve been there the seminal moments as they kick things off, if you will. What does the ceremony look li like . Chris the host will be speaker pelosi. Because, of course, john lewis was a member of the house, not of the senate. She will introduce the ceremony. Itll be a small group of people, just a few select, again, because of social distancing. She will speak, the Senate Majority leader, mitch mcconnell, will speak. They will be performances of a couple of songs, especially amazing grace, which im sure will be deeply moving there in the capital. Its not supposed to be a terribly long service, about half an hour. And then, because, again, of this question of social distancing, normally in the situation you would have the entire house, all the 435 members, gathered together. All 100 senators crowded together. You wont have at this time. They are only going to allow a select group in, and after the ceremony ends, than they are going to go through in a physical count on. I think about 70 members at a time, starting k through f. They will come through for socially distant voting to go pay their respects to thomas and lewis, on and