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FOXNEWSW Shepard Smith Reporting July 23, 2014

Good wednesday afternoon from the deck. Think the russians are backing down now after separatists are accused of killing 298 innocents on a passenger jet, youd better think again. Russianbacked rebels say they blew two ukrainian fighter jets right out of the sky today. And not far from where that doomed Malaysia Airlines jet went down. The separatist website claims they shot down ukrainian jets like this one. The rebels say one pilot died and that right now theyre hunting for another who ejected. The fighter jets went down about 20 miles south and east of where the boeing 777 crashed and killed everybody on board. The United States and ukraine accuses separatists of shooting down the jet with a missile. They deny the charge. But the evidence speaks volumes. U. S. Officials go even further and blame the russians for creating the conditions that led to that disaster. But they say they do not yet have any direct evidence that Russian Forces pulled the trigger. Now nearly a week after the crash, investigators say they reviewed one of the jets black boxes, and they say theres no sign that anybody tampered with it. Of course, it will take time to review all the data. Also today, the first of the victims bodies arrived in the netherlands. The country that had the most of the victims held a mourning day today. 40 coffins arrived in holland today on military planes. Crews say it could take days to transport all of the bodies. Meantime, dutch officials heading up the investigation say they still have not been able to access the crash site. Teams on the ground say the site still isnt secure. The frustrated australian Prime Minister says the chaos at the scene means some victims remains could rot at the crash site for months. Its quite possible that many bodies are still out there in the open, in the european summer, subject to interference and subject to the ravages of heat and animals. The ravages of heat and animals. The tension has even ukraines lawmakers turning on each other. A debate over how to defend the country turned into a brawl. Steve harrigan is in the east of ukraine in donetsk. Do we know if the rebels used the same type of weapon today that brought down that civilian jet . Reporter shepard, its not likely at this point. Those two Ukrainian Government jets were downed while flying at a lower altitude. Theyre generally infantry support jets, su25s. They were helping support a ukrainian offensive right now very close to the border with russia. So flying low enough to be struck by shouldermounted less sophisticated antiair missiles, man pads. Thats what likely brought these two down, as you say, right near the russian border and right near this crash site. Its no accident that the lead dutch investigators havent yet even made it to the site when you have this hot war going on all around it with more planes knocked out of the sky today, shepard. Incredible scenes of tribute and a contrast there for those who went to the netherlands today, the bodies of those victims. Do we have a sense yet for how long the identification process may take, steve . Reporter a real remarkable turnaround in how those bodies were treated after two days in the sun, a day on a soviet refrigerator train car where the air conditioning was broken and transport planes suddenly met by military honor guards and into their own hearses, a real turnaround as far as respect goes. The identification process has begun immediately. Some of those remains and bodies will be instantly identifiable. Others could take anywhere from days to weeks depending on the conditions. So it could still be a long process for many of the families waiting repatriation of their loves ones. Steve harrigan in the eastern area of contested ukraine. Steve, thanks very much. A senior official tells fox news now that the Obama Administration is ready to slap russia with more economic punishments if that country does not help end the fighting in ukraine, and clearly it has not helped yet. The United States today banned people and companies with american ties from dealing with some of russias Biggest Companies including the kremlinrun oil company. That official says the United States could take even more extreme steps if russias president , Vladimir Putin, doesnt get the ukrainian rebels to stand down, which clearly so far they have not. Lets go to washington now and former United States ambassador to ukraine, william taylor, is with us. Ambassador taylor, thank you. Thank you. Youd have thought in the days after 298 civilians met a bloody end that they might be able to calm things down a bit. It has been quite the contrast. I mean, they are still at it. They are still at it, and this goes back to mr. Putins choice. He can either continue to support these rebels, these separatists, and to keep them still at it, as you say, or he can disavow them, move away from them, he can cut them off from the supplies and the equipment and the weapons and the training and the leadership thats clearly been going across the border from russia into ukraine. We have to decide, we have to figure out what hes going to do, whether hes going to double down on the separatists or whether hes going to disown them. We like to think that we run the world, but we dont. And its the europeans right now who are the problem. Its the europeans who are not stepping up. I understand all the reasons. I think a lot of our audience does as well. But how long can you will et this guy murder people . He should not be allowed to let he should not be allowed to murder people at all from now on, forever. The europeans do need to step up. They need to step up today. My sense is that the shooting down of this aircraft, this civilian airliner, is a game changer, is a change that doesnt look like it yet. It doesnt look like it yet. They need to but there are indications, at least statements, that they understand that the europeans understand, the british, the french, the germans, the dutch, of course, understand that this is different from it was last week. It needs to change. I dont know how its different. If im sitting in london right now and these russian oligarchs, mind you, as many of our viewers know, have a lot of their money locked up in london by the billions of dollars. So suddenly the United Kingdom is going to go, okay . No, theyre not. And so far the same from Angela Merkel in germany. They get 40 of their energy from over there. This is a real mess. This is a real mess, and you could go on and talk about the french. You could. Who are about to sell one or two naval ships to the russians, to allow them to move their helicopters. This has to stop. I believe that the discussions among the europeans prompted by the strong steps, relatively strong steps that the americans have taken last week and again indicated today will lead them in that direction. The hawks around here will tell you that Vladimir Putin only understands one thing, and thats force. Of course, they say that about everybody and everything on earth, but in this case they might be right. They might be right. And there are people presumably talking about force, but i dont think its the United States says talking about force in ukraine. What we are talking about doing is supporting the ukraine in their security efforts, building up their security capabilities, hardening the nato defenses against any other moves by the russians against any nato allies, having nato work with ukraine and have joint exercises so those kind of things need to take place. But the economic pressure is the immediate steps that we can take. The former u. S. Ambassador to the ukraine, william taylor, with us from d. C. Mr. Ambassador, thank you. Thank you. Well, its been a disastrous week, obviously, for the Asian Airline industry. Another jet crashed today, killed 47 people. This time some passengers actually made it out alive. This one happened in taiwan. It was a transasia turboprop jet i said jet, i meant plane a turboprop that crashed and broke apart, destroyed homes and cars on the ground. Rescuers pulled 11 survivors from it. Bad storms in the area had already led to airlines canceling some 200 other flights, and theres video from the scene on our website at foxnews. Com. The United Nations releasing a blistering report on the impact of the terror group isis in iraq and whether Security Forces did enough to protect civilians. Plus, more on the ultimatum for iraqi christians. And weve seen more than a dozen oil train derailments in the past year and a half. One killed 47 people. 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Thats from a recent United Nations report. It also reveals that iraqi forces and allied fighters there have not taken steps to protect innocent people. So far the fighting is reportedly killed nearly 5,600 civilians this year ppt the u. N. Held a meeting today to discuss the fighting and the latest isis fighting and the groups threats to christians in iraq. Remember, isis forces and those who joined with them have already captured a wide swath of the country over the last couple of months. The red slashes up on this map show you just how big this sunni militantcontrolled area is. And you can see it also stretches over into parts of syria. In fact, a large part of the north and east. Iraqi Officials Say that in recent weeks, isis has transported oil from iraq to syria for processing before they sell it in mosul in the north there. The same city that isis forces have given kris chabs an ultimatum. That ultimatum to christians, convert to islam, pay a tax, or die. Fox news chief correspondent Jonathan Hunt joins us with us on the deck. Convert to islam, pay a tax, or die. This is a desperate situation for nonmuslims. Yeah, and for anybody who is a nonsunni muslim, shia muslims also facing the same threats. But to focus on the threats against christians in mosul just about one decade ago, there was Something Like 100,000 christians. In the face of this ongoing violence and these threats, there are said today to be just about 200. Many of them fleeing for their lives. And this, according to the u. N. Special representative for iraq, is why. Listen. Christians have been given an ultimatum to convert, pay a tax, leave or face imminent execution. Theyre facing systematic abductions, killings or the destruction of their property. The houses of minority residents in the city have been marked. And just to explain that a little bit, the isis militants are acting according to a tradition of the jizya contract which offered protection to nonmuslims if they paid a protection fee in effect. Now, the only options that isis is now giving nonsunni muslims are in that area or convert to islam or face death as isis puts it by the sword. Aside from converting, does anybody have any solutions . No easy ones, certainly. The iraqi army quite simply does not have the ability to drive isis out of the areas which it has taken control of. The Iraqi Government has not exactly been a paragon of tolerance in its treatment of shia muslims. That is one of the reasons why we are seeing these situations. Now, so much so that the u. N. Special representative said the only way to solve this is what he called a political and social package addressing the concerns of all communities. That hardly seems likely to come about in the current climate, which is why that special representative said the following, shep, which to me was the most sobering sentence of his entire long presentation today. He said, quote, it is clear that iraq will never be as it was before the fall of mosul. Not much optimism there. No, certainly not. Jonathan hunt, thank you. Here in north america, a series of explosive train wrecks over the past year has transportation officials now calling for a total overhaul of how trains move oil and gas around. 47 people died last year in canada when a runaway oil Freight Train caught fire and exploded, leveling most of an entire town. Investigators say that tanker cars are too easy to rupture. Under a proposal from the department of transportation, thousands of older rail tank cars that could carry fuel would be phased out over the next couple of years. Regulators say that theyre considering a speed limit of 30 miles an hour near cities, but railroad executives say that would tie up train traffic all the way across the nation. Word broke this afternoon that the feds are now extending a travel ban on flights to israels Main International airport in tel aviv because of safety concerns. And youd Better Believe israels going to take a hit in tourism. Thats next along with what the leader of hamas just said about what it would take to stop this fighting. The crisis in the middle east as Shepard Smith reporting continues in a moment. vo watching. Waiting. For that moment, where right place meets right time. And when i find it i go for it. announcer at s for trading. Thats why we give you the edge, with innovative charting and trading features, plus powerful mobile apps so youre always connected, wherever you are. Because at scottrade, our passion is to power yours. Breaking news, there will be no truce in the middle east. A live look at gaza city. The leader of hamas says that the group has rejected an offer for a ceasefire and says that in the future, hamas will not accept any proposals to stop the fighting unless and until theres a complete lift of the blockade on gaza. A blockade that israel and egypt imposed some seven years ago. John huddy live along the border with more. John . Reporter jayeah, shepard, shears been an intense amount of fighting. In fact, things have really accelerated just a short time ago. Weve got a lot of this. Take a look. As ceasefire talks continue, the action does as well here on the israel gaza border. Flares are being put up in the distance for israeli troops as they continue to move in on one area in particular. This is an area that has seen intense fighting over the last 16 days since operation protective edge started. And in particular, the last six days as the ground assault has continued. Now, forces continue to move into that area. You can see all the flares. We see artillery fire, cannon fire in the distance. We hear machine gunfire as well. And now more rockets are being fired out of gaza, targeting israel. And these look like the longrange rockets. So as the fighting continues on the ground, were hearing that those rockets that were just fired were actually targeting the airport in tel aviv. And the fighting continues even right now, shepard. I can hear artillery fire in the distance. So whether any ceasefire agreement materializes, it sounds like, as you mentioned at the top, thats not going to happen. Fighting very much continues behind me here along the israel gaza border. Shepard. John huddy live for us, thanks. There will be no truce, as i mentioned, and no United States airlines will be flying to israel at least for another day. The federal Aviation Administration has extended its flight ban from yesterday, now forbidding any american jets from going into or out of tel avivs airport for another 24 hours. The faas initial order came after a rocket landed about a mile from tel avivs airport. You can see the rocket strike over there off the airport. Its the only major airport in israel that accepts flights from abroad. The state Department Today confirmed that hamas does, in fact, have rockets that can reach that airport. Hamass antiaircraft missile capabilities are still being determined. We dont have confirmation that hamas has launched heatseeking missiles during the conflict or that they have access to missiles like those we saw bring down the tark in ukraine. The faa working very closely with the intelligence community, with people that do analysis on these kind of things before they make these determinations. Now, in addition to the faas ban, more than a dozen International Airlines have also canceled flights to tel a

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