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FOXNEWSW Shepard Smith Reporting September 11, 2014

Jump said. Lets get to it. First this thursday afternoon, the white house says president obama is reviewing potential targets in the fight against the Islamic State, as war planners gear up for our new war in the middle east. A new war that was apparently declared last night. And syrias murderous regime is warning that airstrikes in the country, which the president has said will help, quote, the first sparks of fire. That is what it will trigger. Those word from a Syrian Government run newspaper. President obama last night called the airstrikes on Islamic State targets, whenever they exist. Along with help from socalled moderate Syrian Rebels on the ground. He is pushing congress to arm and train those moderate Syrian Rebels. Today secretary of state john kerris in the middle east to rally support from the gulf nations but two countries left out, iran and syria itself. Even though the syrian regime4 s fighting the Islamic State. But we wont be fighting with them. Its two separate things. Okay. President obama vowed not to work with Bashar Alassad the dictator who slaughters his own people. Complicated. Analysts say United States airstrikes could unintentionally help Bashar Alassad, who has been murdering his own people and who more than a year ago says the president says has to go. The may help hem. The strongest reaction to the strategy could complicate another tense relationship with syrias ally, russia, and its president , Vladimir Putin. The Russian Foreign ministry indicated any United States military action in syria,3 any, without the approval of the united nations, would be, quote, an act of aggression and flagrant violation of International Law. Think of it. That is from russia. If this werent so horrible it would be comical. Here at home were also getting reaction from capitol hill as the United States begins a new phase of what was once called the war an terror. Now we have a new war. That one start on our soil when terrorists attacked us, 13 years ago today and 13 years later where were . Ed henry is live at the white house. Now that the presidency has made his case, whats next . He spent some top officials like general martin dempsey, white house adds as well, up to capitol hill to brief them on this plan. Theres skepticism on both sides of the aisle whether this strategy can work in part because the president is putting a lot of faith in the Free Syrian Army, which he previously mocked and has suggested he did not want to arm because he was arming Syrian Opposition members without vetting them would qualify as something that would be stupid. Better vetting system to make sure that socalled moderate rebels the armed are not going to wind up in the hands of terrorists. Well obviously see in the days ahead whether thats true. Well talk about the vetting system. What else are we hearing from republicans. Theyre pushing the president for more strategy behind what they heard last night, and what is interesting is you are hearing some republicans, but also importantly some of the president s fellow democrats, like tim cain another virginia, mark udall of california, saying you do not have the power to expand the airstrikesf without coming to capitol hill and having an authorization vote. Whats my Mitch Mcconnell says the president has more work to do. That said, im glad the president has brought a new focus to the effort against isil. He needs to take this responsibility head on. This congress, the next congress, and the next administration, have serious work ahead as we consider this multiyear commitment, and what it will take to defeat8risc isi. And that is significant about how long will this take . As the president suggested a time line of up to three years or more that would be hand off to fight against isis to the next administration. Democrat or republican. That could cost taxpayers a lot of money, obviously and thats why a fellow democrat for the 1h be a blank check. She is chairwoman of the senate appropriateses committee and has the purse strings. Three years, right . The goal as state by the president of the United States last night is to destroy them. Destroy them. That means theyre gone. Right . Remember who they were. First there was al qaeda, then al qaeda in iraq, and and al qaeda in iraq is now what were all calling isis. Right . What is destroy . Joining us now from d. C. , fox news contributor, dennis roth. He served as senior director over the National Security Council Central region along with other top roles that date back to the reagan administration. Nice to see you again. Nice to be if you you. The goal, carding to the president , is to destroy them and yet history tells us these groups can exist in very small numbers in a very weakened state for years and years. So i your goal is to destroy them, knowing that reality, is this a War Without End . Well, it certainly is a war that is not going to end right away. When you declare that som1ajjt is a cancer your choice is not to contain it. It has to be to eradicate it. That cant be done overnight or done solely by us. It does require countries in the region, particularly the sunniled countries and sunni tribes, who fought, as you were saying, shep, fought al qaeda in iraq, which was the precursor of isil, they fought them in 2007, and in fact defeated them at that time, obviously with our help and thats required again. Well have to act but we need the sunni tribes to take on isil. We need the sunni states to join them. And these are the steps the administration is folk can yous on and is the right way to go because its not something we can achieve by ourselves. We declared them a cancer and said they could back threat to the homeland and yet were farming out the groundwork to others. That doesnt make sense. Well, i think, again, we have to look at how we define the nature of the threat to us. Clearly there comes a point where, if we decidezv that it in fact its going to be a threat to the homeland, then well do whatever we have to do on our own, about if the aim is to roll them back, defeat them, because you wont defeat them overnight, cant do it by yourself, and also not solely a military job. They have to be discredited. They have to be delegitimatized. They have to lose the appeals they have had to sunni tribes, and ebb, again, lets understand what produced. The Bashar Alassad and Nouri Almaliki. Both of themaeffectively carried oat wars in the case of asad, brutal war against the soon citizen, and Nouri Almaliki cut them out as well, and suppressed them, and the net effect was to create a sense that anybody is better than assad and better than maliki. So the key the key is to win these sunni tribes back so theyll take them on and not provide them a base from which to operate. We have to have them play part of the control and we need states like saudi arabia to play a reel as well, bus ultimately delegitimatizing isil is the debeing able to destroy them over time. It feels like sometimes were operating without knowledge of history and sometimes maybe without even a rearview mirror, because anything was better than Saddam Hussein until we got what was create after that. Then we armed the iraqis and their weapons went to isil, and now we are about to arm what fantastical group of moderate Syrian Rebels, a group which to my knowledge, after a lot of research, does not exist as a thing. A lot of little groups, all with different different ideas and goals and hate, who have so far, according to our intelligence, approved to be untenable and yet were about to train them to do the ground work for them with ones that maybe end up in isils hands. It seems like were operating without a rearview mirror. I thinkow raise a point that is always good to keep in mind. There should be a constant set of lessons we learn. There should be a constant willingness to look at the assumptions we make ask question them and see whether reality is validating those assumeses or not. At this point i would say the opposition in syria, as you put it correctly, is highly fragmented. Part of thin opposition is prepared to fight isil and at the same time fight the assad regime. One reason its important to support those elements of the opposition, who are fighting isil and assad, is partly because in the end, theyll have more credit on theground than we would, and partly also because in a sense, we do not want to benefit assad. The reality is, as i said, assad helped to create ice until the first place. To and isil has been selling oil to the assad regime. There are in fact those who i think, had we provided them support earlier, might have been more capable today. Its better to do something at this point than not to do it at all, and we do need allies in the end in syria because if youre going defeat isil in syria you have something you you need something that will replace it. So you cant just leave a vacuum. That gets to the issue you were raising. When you look in the rearview mirror, when we go in and carry out some of these fights, if we leave a vacuum its going to be filled, and when it gets filled its going to be filled by forces were not going to bewno happy to deal with unless we have done a lot of coordination and work with those groups in advance. Well, its a sad state of affairs mr. Ambassador. It was certainly the goal the last time we spent a trillion dollars, we lost thousands of lives, went in and trained the iraqi army, more than 100,000 of them. Gave them the weapons. Spent a trillion dollars, when they stand up well stand down. They stood up. The decision was made across two administrations. They stood up. And what happened . Their weapons went to our new enemy. And now were about to engage a force to empower and arm a force that is not a force at all. A bunch of different groups of people, were going to bring them together inun our vetting process, as such, that we know the same thing wont happen that just happened in iraq, with a much more prepared group. That is who were farming this out to. We are expecting different results this time. Theres a word for that. Let us know what you think about the president s strategy in taking on the Islamic State terrorists, tweet it shep news team. Theres a possibility well read them. First back to russia. President obama says the United States is stepping up economic punishments against russia because of the crisis in ukraine. The president says the penalties will affect russias financial, energy and defense industry. The European Union is slapping russia with new punishments. And Vladimir Putin ordered his forces to carry out a Major Military exercise. The second drill in a few months. Nato officials sky a thousand Russian Troops are still on ukrainian soil, against International Law, and another 20,000 are just across the border in syria, and it was Vladimir Putin who had the gal in russia Vladimir Putin hey that gal today to say if we carry out airstrikes over syria, that would be against International Law to put putin we say thank you. The nfl announcing a new investigation into how it handled the ray rice Domestic Violence case. Thats next. At legalzoom you can take care of virtually all your important legal matters in just minutes. Now its quicker and easier for you to start your business, protect your family, and launch your dreams. At legalzoom. Com we put the law on your side. Wouldnt it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters shopping online is as easy as it gets. And even piano tuners were just as simple . Thanks to angies list, now it is. Weve made hiring anyone from a handyman to a dog walker as simple as a few clicks. 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April. A video in which he coldcocked the thenfiancee inside a casino elevator, the same one the commissioner claims nobody in the league saw before last week. Jonathan hunt is here on the fox news deck. Very interesting details of the nfl information of the nfl. Out of this Associated Press report, saying a Law Enforcement official told them he sent that incredible nateing video to the nfl months ago because he wanted the nfl to have all the evidence before they made any decision about ray rice. He also told the ap he then got he also told the ap he then got a phone call, from reporter who spoke to the Law Enforcement official, womans voice on the other end thanked him for sending the video and then said that youre right, its terrible. The nfl spokesman responded to that saying, quote, we have no. Of this. Were not aware of anyone in our office who possessed or saw the video before it was made public on monday. On monday. We will look that it was ronalder goodell himself who said, during the new Orleans Saints bountygate scandal, ignorance is not an excuse. This isnt all that is going on. Its the headline but not the only problem of this kind this league is facing. There are other Domestic Violence case within the nfl. Ray mcdonald, the tackle with the San Francisco 49ers, was arrested on two suspected counts of Domestic Violence, august 31 in. He is still active with the 49s. Greg hardy, carolina panther, convicted on two counts of Domestic Violence. He is appealing the counts and the panther owner got quite upset when he talk about the issue at an event last night. Been too slow to act. I ask you consider, no tot be too quick to judge. Rayga rices former team, the baltimore ravens, plays tonight against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Thursday night football, as if the nfl needed any reminding of Domestic Violence issues, opens with a performance by rihanna. Open your own can of irony. Thank you. 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Its turned over to at the investigator and the investigator will report to two of the owners, who are the epitomy of integrity it will be interesting to see how it works out. Does it pass the smell test to you there was a video they didnt get the video . I think in my estimation, thm video was irrelevant. We knew

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