If mark meadows, he writes, if repmarkmeadows, jim jordan and Raul Labrador would get on board we would have both great healthcare and massive tax cuts reform. And then, another one. Where are repmarkmeadows, jim jordan and raullabrador . Repealandreplace obamacare. So, more to come on that. First, the white house intends to get on offense on this russia story. Pushing congress to review new classified executive information that may put the new former Obama Administration on the hot seat, they think. Until today, the only member of congress to see that materialist avenue nest, the chairman of the intel committee. Now, the white house wants to open it up to other republicans and democrats to take a look for themselves. We want them to look into this. There is a belief that the president has maintained that there was surveillance that occurred during the 2016 election. That was improper and we want people to look into this and take the appropriate legal responsible steps to both understand that an address it for it for you martha that offer was greeted with a heavy m democrats. Watch this. There is no question that there is a cloud over the investigation. I am more than perplexed by how these materials have been put forward. Why all the cloak and dagger stuff . Martha ed henry is here with more on this in our studio from new york. A lot on the plate here. That is right. The Senate IntelligenceCommittee Hearing kicked off with lofty views to keep product out my politics out of it. Probably too late for that. First off, newsweek had an oped declaring that russia was trying to meddle in the electio election. Clearly, raising questions about why the Obama White House stopped james comey if democrats were so offended by a rush attacking our democracy. Remember, trump has claimed that that got some credence from republican devin nunes, singing unnamed whistleblower revealed there had been surveillance of team trump and some names had been unmasked in violation of federal law. Though democrats like adam schiff are skeptical, given that fox news has not confirmed two Trump White House staffers on the ground on march 21st. Then, a murkier story about a belarusian american businessman known as source d and that russian dossier of negative information about the president. The Washington Post report the alleged dirt on him was fabricated. Of the stuff about me is literally, completely false in every way, shape, form. Do you know this former British Intelligence officer . I have never met him. Breaking tonight, the wall street journal is reporting that mike flynn, general flynn, has offered to be interviewed by the senate and house committees, as well as the fbi, and this whole probe in exchange for immunity from prosecution. What is interested is that we are learning from the journal that so far, those congressional committees and the fbi have not accepted his offer of a deal. So, that suggests maybe they do not believe he has enough information that would put someone above him in trouble. Martha thank you very much. Ed henry with the latest. Here with more, karl rove is with us, former Senior Advisor to president george w. Bush. Juan williams, cohost of the five. Welcome. Good to have you here tonight. A lot of intrigue in this news that just broke a few moments ago, which ed was talking about. Mike flynn saying that he will testify but he would like immunity. What does that tell you . That tells me his lawyers have told him, you either have exposure or if you dont have exposure, lets get some suspenders and bells on you nonetheless. I thought it was an unusual gesture on his part, it was okay for him just step forward and say he will testify, but the request for immunity i thought was really troubling. Martha it looks as if, if he testifies, he is either going to have immunity or he could plead the fifth. That is how this is going to go. Juan, what is your thought on what mike flynn is looking for here . We have seen a pattern, just to reiterate what karl said, this is troubling in terms of the idea of his involvement and his exposure. I think that this means that there is some. Secondly, i think it is a part of a larger pattern in which we have seen paul manafort, carter page, offering to testify before the house Intelligence Committee and we know that that is part of the effort that devin nunes was caught up in, apparently led by the white house, to share information with nunes, to get information before the committee. Apparently, to try to, i would say, derail the committee. But possibly to throw up smoke in defense of the Trump Campaign. Martha when you get to the bottom of this, karl, there are two things in play. One, is there any proof at all that the Trump Administration or anyone prior to that during the campaign had relationships with anyone in russia where they were trying to aid them in their effort to manipulate the election . The other side come i the Obama Administration look for ways, oe they were completely shocked, as were many people in the country, looking for ways to undermine the Trump Administration on their way out the door by surveilling people when they shouldnt have been surveilling them and unmasking their names to reveal them to try to basically throw renters into the wheels of this new administration. We dont have any evidence of collusion between people in the Trump Campaign and the russians. Democrats, like adam schiff, keep suggesting there might be. But i think we need to let the Senate Investigation go forward. The Senate Intelligence committee investigation. So far, no evidence of collusion whatsoever. On the second question, there is an important distinction. What we do think we know is according to multiple reporting, there was surveillance of people who were not russians late in the campaign and after the campaign. Foreign officials who were subject to Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants and in those conversations, swept up not russians, several confirmations that its not russians, they talked about their contact with people in the Trump Campaign and the trump transition. Their attempts to develop relationships with them. Let me tell you, having been through this myself in 2000 20002001, after the election, both sides, during the campaign, are the object of people trying to develop relationships and after the campaign, everyone is trying to climb over the walls. What we do know, the names of the people in the trump transition and the Trump Campaign that were contacted by these foreign officials are unmasked in the documents. That is really troubling. Under the federal law, that is an offense, if you unmasked the name of a u. S. Official or u. S. Individual who is not the subject of a warrant, not the subject of surveillance, that incidental contact, you can go to jail for ten years. Somebody unmasked a lot of those names. I just wanted to pick guard on what karl is saying. I think, from what i am hearing, this may have been a conversation among russians, for example, the unmasking not among russians. It could be. The point is, it was a legal warrant for the surveillance, some unintentional collection, trapping of american names or voices and at the unmasking as we are hearing, i think it is really secondary. But i dont think there is any question it was unintentional. You have to look at it and you can figure out, deduce, who these people were. Let me finish. I think that i dont think it was intentional. I dont think that is the real issue. The real issue at hand was that the Obama Administration trying to protect the idea that russia interfered in the democratic process. Dick cheney said recently, this was an act equivalent to war against the United States. That is how serious this was. Martha karl. There is absolutely no disagreement on my part that the russians tried to interfere in the election. The question is, are the democratic charges of collusion between the Trump Campaign and russia, has there been any evidence . The answer is no. Juan, dont be so quick to pass over unmasking those names. It takes a deliberate act. Would not come through the nsa, that david gets masked automatically. It takes a special martha we know there was a concerted effort. Thats right. It had to be intentional, it was likely not to have been done the essay, likely to have been done done you go to jail for ten years for that. The magnitude of russia interfering in our democratic martha they are still going at it. Also, tonight, breaking and the last for hours, two Democratic Senators now say that they will support President TrumpSupreme Court nominee, dr. 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Martha judge Neil Gorsuchs chances to serve from the highest court in the land looking slightly rosier this evening, as two Democratic Senators announced late today, west Virginias Joe Manchin at north dakotas heidi heitkamp, that they will vote for President TrumpSupreme Court fake. Basically saying that it is part of a roll and they believe they should follow through on that. They are both up for reelection and they both represent estates where donald trump won handily. Missouris Claire Mccaskill, a similar situation on her hands, and she is sending a bit of a warning to her fellow democrats about how to proceed. Lets assume for purposes of this discussion that we turn down or such. So, they pick another one up for the lights, and we say, no, this is worse. They wont let us do that too long. God forbid or kennedy retires. Or breyer has a stroke. Or is no longer able to serve. Then, we are not talking about Antonin Scalia. We are talking about Antonin Scalia for someone on the court who shares our values. Martha dr. Charles krauthammer joins u. Good evening to you. Good to have you here tonight. What do you make of how this is going . I think Claire Mccaskill should be a pundit. Her analysis is exactly right. I think she is mourning her party, they are a little bit heady because of the victory of sorts that they have had on health care and they are feeling their oats. They dont have a lot of oats. Gorsuch is going to be on the Supreme Court, no matter what. The only question is, will it require 51 or 60 votes. It would make no sense at all for democrats to force Mitch Mcconnell to abolish the filibuster if the democrats do not produce the votes for closure, meaning ending the debate. Youve got to have a democrats who agree not to support core gorsuch, but simply to end the filibuster. If they dont produce that, they will get an abolition of the filibuster. The reason this is all important, the debates now come the argument now, the tussle now is not about gorsuch. Everyone knows he is going on the court. Its about the next nominee. If the democrats force the hand of mcconnell on this boat, abolish the filibuster, and feeding only 51 next time around, when you might even have a liberal seat going up, then, it if it is only 51, the republicans would be tempted to go for a far more hard edged conservative than gorsuch is. At that will be a selfinflicted wound by the democrats. Martha indeed. I also want to put up a tweet from President Trump earlier today. He really went after the Freedom Caucus. He says. The Freedom Caucus will hurt the entire republican agenda if they dont get on the team, fast. We must fight them, dems, in 2018 what do you think of the message he sent them today . The kind of thing you do when you are deadlocked in a real estate deal and you want to scare the pgbs out of the other side. It doesnt work in politics. These guys in the Freedom Caucus are in very secure receipts. They are also ideologically, philosophically serious people who believe and they oppose the president on principle. It was not a political move. In fact, it would have been a lot easier to go with the president s. This is not going to move them. Unless the president is willing to go entirely over to the democratic side, meaning to go for a repair of obamacare, improvement, perhaps even to a singlepayer system, there is no way he is going to get enough democrats to allow him to get a health care reform. His only plate is republicans and he is not that far away, at least paul ryan is not, and getting them to sign up. This is going to make it harder, rather than easier. Martha here is paul ryan on this whole idea earlier today. Lets watch. If we dont do this, he will work with democrats to try and change obamacare. That is hardly a conservative thing. If this replicant Congress Allows us to do it, i worry we will push the president into working with democrats. Martha he says, i know you have your principles, members of the Freedom Caucus, but this is the most conservative deal we will get. It will get adjusted in the senate but this is it. I think ryan is right. It is the most conservative deal. It is possible you could tweak it slightly. I think the Freedom Caucus ought to decide, allow this to go through, toss it over to the senate. It is likely that the democrats will kill it in the senate, in which case, you have a Good National debate in the democrats are going to have to defend themselves, particularly in september when obamacare increases, the spike in the premiums is going to happen. You are going to have a great diminution of nostalgia for obamacare that you have now. I think tactically, the president has nowhere to go on this. Chuck schumer sent the president a letter saying we would love to work with you, first, you have to say you are not repealing obamacare. Of course, a way to humiliate him. Martha good luck with that. Always good to see you. Thank you very much. My pleasure. Martha tonight, some revolting reaction to the pences rule for their own personal happy marriage, as the Vice President and his wife find themselves on the receiving end of tweet like this. There is more where that came from. We will debate their marriage and the reaction to it coming up ahead. Plus, the battle of her sanctuary cities intensifies as i. C. E. Releases its Second Public reform naming and shaming jurisdictions that fail to comply with federal law. David wall and matt bennett up next. In just 60 seconds. And well help you make decisions for your plan. To kee