Disaster. Ive never seen a story quite like this. Former Obama Press Secretary robert gibbs was asked about the misleading message of you can keep your insurance if you want to and he had to call a spade a spade. I dont recall significant discussions around some of the verbiage on this to be 100 honest with you. Do you agree it was a wrong move . Certainly. One respected d. C. Journalist took it a step further, offering a stinging indictment of the Obama Administration practices that led to this. He wrote, incompetence and deception doomed the launch, as long as the president stick, with the team that failed the country and lied, it is fair to assume that he hasnt learned the most basic lessons from the launch. This weekend, from paint story of the wall street journal on saturday and then Washington Post on sunday. It became quite clear, and they didnt even really try to defend it, that politics trumped policy and truth in the rollout of obama care. Politics trumped we think alike. Absolutely. I spent the whole weekend, Washington Post, forbes, boring weekend. I was consuming everything i could because this was important and the public wants to know ways going on. Two things came clear. Number one, this was obamas baby. He wanted this website up and running and it was going to be his shining moment, his shining accomplishment. The other thing, that was it, politics overrule practicality because it wasnt ready. As recent as mid2011, cgi, cgi federal, which is the canadian firm, the american subsidiary of cgi, the canadian group, was hired to come on and get obama care up and running. This was important. I call this a smoking gun, all right, this was in the Washington Post blog about four or five clicks in. Its a letter, an email from cgi to cms. Now, cms is the group that was charged with bringing the obama care website up and running. The group within obama care, the center for medicaid and medicare services. Bear with me, one second. Look, they told them that there this is august 17, six weeks before the launch, there were only 55 ready. They werent even close for that thing to start. How do you find that in all those thingses that are wiped out . They just redacted napes. But its cgi federal. This is going right to so they knew . But they didnt tell the president or they told him ard coulding to a lot of the things, president obama knew, his staff knew. It was so important for them to get that thing running, they just leaned on kcgi to get it ot there. Who is he mad at, himself . Ezekiel emmanuel was on fox news sunday. Interesting exchange. Take a look. We were questioned. Are those people going to be able to keep those coverage as the president promised . Look the law does not say sears dropped coverage. Sears decides whats good for sears. Doesnt say to the insurance industry, you drop coverage. The industry decides how its going to make money. When private companies decide to drop people, you blame president obama. He is not responsible for that. Greg, what did you think . That was the best interview that anyones done. I thought chris nailed it. He has the smug look of someone who just ruined a public bathroom. Its his own path of destruction. Seemingly unaffected his life. Bureaucratic version of hurricane katrina. Obama in a way is a natural disaster. Its an oil spill. Its human beings getting soaked. Theres no way to get them clean. Aw. Destroy the bathroom. Thats true. He destroyed a bathroom that he didnt have to clean. None of these experts are using obama care. So its in effect, its their public bathroom. Somebody else will have to clean it up. Exactly. Bob, was it taken this weekend that the administration, the white house, did lie to the american . I spent every waking hour myself reading about this and absorbing everything i could on it. You should. I didnt spend a minute on it. No, listen, my assumption is, somebody certainly did, no question about that. I still get back to this point that ezekiel did not quite get it outright. If you had a policy and you demanded that you keep it with the Insurance Companies, you would have had it. Insurance Company Changed it on you. That is what the white house has tried, kimberly, over the last several days, which is try to say, dont blame us, all were trying to do is provide insurance for everybody. Blame the Insurance Companies. Theyre the ones who changed the policy. They changed it because they were asked to and required to under the law. They werent required, thats an important distinction. You said they were going to say this exact thing, demonize the Insurance Companies. The problem for them is the facts smack of something completely different. When you see these redacted copies, when you see reports coming out that they new ahead of time, thats malfeasance on their part and i think its fraud. When you sit there and tell the American People these rates are going to be lower and those arent the facts and they knew them ahead of time, theyre act like criminals. Just so were clear on this, they were not required to change these policies. They were grandfathered it, could have kept them. Its disingenuous to use that line because as Chris Wallace pressed ezekiel emmanuel, he said, no one said that. No one said if a copay goes up by five bucks, you would no communication, no question about it. Nonetheless isnt it a terrible job of communicating, otherwise known as lying . No, the fact of the matter is, if i had an insurance policy and i said to the insurance policy, do not change this, i wont pay an increase, nothing would have changed. Thats far too innocent when you look at the facts and evidence we have now. Theyre not innocent. They knew what they were doing and they did it anyway. Im50 tam talking about poli. Why dont you actually just look at this guy, his administration, this was his baby, this is his legacy. He made promises that he, in fact, knew were false to the American People, and we deserve and expect better. Its as simple as that. Single payer, wouldnt happen. Theyre not going to blame obama because this is as close as you get to an actual organized religion in which president obama is god and his apologists are doing nothing but speaking in tonguinge,tongues. This is all they do. You go after doctors who are getting hammered. You go after Insurance Companies who have extremely slim margins and who are just average americans, working in small towns. You dont see these people work all over the country and they help people. I love my insurance agent. The person that helped me with my house and helped me with my car. They were nice people. They were people. Theyre not awful people. Obama continues to throw so many people under the bus that theres more people under the bus than in it and obama care doesnt cover people hit by the buses. They were on the run yesterday. David axelrod appeared with David Gregory on meet the press. You were in the white house. You were advising the president. Why didnt you or somebody else say to him, mr. President , dont say, no matter what, youre going to keep your health care plan. Hindsight is 20 20. Thats why youre there, is to say its hindsight, you shouldnt do that. The vast majority of americans, that statement will hold true for this small group of americans, it hasnt. Without the small group of americans, theyre saying, oh, its just 5 of people. Those are actually the paying customers, the insured, the responsible people, and now theyre at risk of being uninsured. And hes wrong. David axle roll is going to have to come back and eat those words. Hopefully David Gregory holds him to that. Were hearing more and more. Were talking right now about 14 Million People on the individual mandate who may lose coverage. There are numbers coming out now there could be 50 million, 60 million, even higher, 70 million no. Bob, im not making this stuff up. This is coming out from people who are paid to look into this. That you may have 60 million or 70 Million People thrown off their employer coverage because its too expensive. Youre talking about 100 Million People. One thing we should keep in mind. We keep talking about you can keep your doctor if you want. Your doctor doesnt have to keep you. If they dont like your insurance plan, they can get rid of them. The employer says too expensive. Were going to throw you off. Well take the penalty instead. Now hes blaming the doctor, the Insurance Companies. That was part of the controversy. I think the white house, political folks, communication folks, have already put a spot on the wall, they continue to rub it. And make it worse. What was that . A spot on the wall, they rubbed it . Yes, you know, if you rub a spot on the wall, you make it worse, that was my point. Never done that before. Think progress which if youre not signed up on the liberal blogs you dont get it but if youre on left side it goes around like wildfire. The White House CommunicationsOffice Tweeted the real reason the cancer patient writing in todays wall street journal lost her insurance. It linked to a blog that basically said this whole thing of blaming the Insurance Company. Her point was that the Insurance Company the insurance she had was perfect for her. She has stage 4 cancer. It v couldered different doctors at different hospitals and thats how shes been able to stay alive. My point to them is its never a very good idea to start attacking the victim. Even if they think theyre actually attacking the Insurance Company. It looked like they were being insensitive to the cancer patient. A Strong Defense is a good offense and these guys are really offensive. And thats why they see no problem going after her instead of obama. Why was this missed . This whole story, which has been out since 2010, why was this entire story except by fnc and conservative blogs . And its very simple. Media bias provides a blinder that obscures the beliefs. Its the morphine that deadens the pain of your own mistakes. So theres no way that the media could see this until now. Do you see seriously, did you see in 2010 did anybody in this country very few people were aware of this. Oh, my god. That you couldnt keep your are you out of your mind . Bob, where have you been . That was the reason republicans won in 2010. Im talking about the majority of the American People. Can i just throw this out here . Im a conspiracy theorist. The reason why obama delayed the employer mandate is they knew it was going to be 70 Million People thrown off the rolls and they didnt want it in an election year. Theres an alien in thats not even a conspiracy theory. What, the alien . Please, that makes perfect political sense. That alien does not have insurance. Our last point about political sense, bob, even you would appreciate this, some of the ads i saw today targeting red state democrats saying, why was it that senator pryor in arkansas defended and repeated the obama care lie . That is very effective tagging. And will help the republicans in 2014. Its a strong statement to say the president of the United States is a liar. I hope you all can feel comfortable saying that. I can. Hes a liar. I wouldnt say that to any president. The scandal shows what the media will do to get their guy in. They kept this cat in the bag. Now that the cats out of the bag, it doesnt matter. And you wish you would have bought a dog. Exactly. Because dogs are much nicer. Up next, the New York Times says president obama simply misspoke on obama care. Greg will get the New York Times straight on that later. Tomorrow is election day. Its monday. Ive got a case of the mondays. Well look at key races including new jersey where Chris Christie is expected to win big. Can republicans learn something from the Governors Campaign . Well debate it. So if you have a flat tire, dead battery, need a tow or lock your keys in the car, geicos emergency roadside assistance is there 24 7. Oh dear, i got a flat tire. Hmmm. Uh. Yeah, can you find a take where its a bit more dramatic on that last line, yeah . Yeah i got it right here. Someone help me i have a flat tire well its good. Good for me. What do you think . Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. So, in the suckup olympics, the New York Times gets the gold for redefining lying as mystiquing. Dismissing president obamas dishonesty as no big deal. He misspoke. Try to use that in a marriage. When i said i wouldnt cheat, i was talking about dudes. M misspeaking is when you say. At least the times admits obama will not bend to individual need. I quote them, Maternity Care for those who will not have children is a sore point. Its more than a sore point, you sexist piggings. What if women had to pay for prostate exams or bobs viagrvi . For tthe times, this idiocy i just one price you pay. Obama care is the hammer in this hammer and sickle. As bill maher notes, if its for the greater good, who cares if the president lies. Any student of history knows where this leads. Its cuba bad, east germany bad. For progressives, thats progress. Our bad is their good. Where success is measured by governments grip on freedom. Do you know what tthe times picked . Broccoli. Thats a big health scoop. Which leads me to ask, does obama care cover getting your head out of your ass . Not sure about that, but broccoli is delicious. Cover viagra, does anybody know, because its expensive. The New York Times and their special Health Supplement puts broccoli on the cover. Its the worst vegetable. No, its the best. I know its good for you but its the worst possible. Cover it in cheese. Everything in cheese is better. Including cheese. Whoever likes broccoli has got to be out of their mind. It tastes like turf from a football stadium. Its just horrible. Is that worse than cbs news reporting when six people signed up for obama care the first day they called it off to a slow start . Thats just so crazy. They dont care. You dont understand, they have a loose relationship with the truth and they like it like that. Theyre like, were keeping it. If we say it, its true. They dont care what the realality or the facts are. Why are more people not upset about this . Socialized medicine thats fine, whatever you want to call it. The expectations of obama care are so low now with everybody beating up on it so badly, i will guarantee you by this time in the spring, it will not nearly be as negative as people think it is because, a, not that many people will be affected by it and secondly these stories are going to run out. Theres no more bottom to it. Trust me, theres a bottom. Thats like saying a year after Hurricane Sandy, we wont be talking about Hurricane Sandy as much. Yes, thats correct. You made a statement, you said not that many people will be affected by it. What do do you mean by that. When they find out you say 60 million. I dont buy into that number. A much more smaller number of people will lose their policies. The people whoicies will get be policies. Whos paying for it . You, me. If it were up to me, it would be paid by all of us together collectively as a family. The fact the New York Times editorial which is infewerating every single day of the week but in particular on sundays. That became a story itself yesterday. Talking about it all day long. The public editor of the New York Times having to actually ask for an explanation from rosenthal, which he got, sort of halfbaked. The media seems to not be willing to accept this lie. When the white house blamed the video for benghazi, we were like the broken records. We were the only ones talking about that. This one, not so much. Suppose if we got to the if we had called him out first, would the media follow it along . It had to be the other guys who got there first for it to be okay. It makes you wonder what does president have to do to be accurately criticized by the New York Times . Does he have to kidnap a bus load of orphans . Oh, my god. What does he have to do . Why the children . Because they deserve it. You dont understand, this is the guy who puts out the most predator drone strikes, yet hes the Nobel Peace Prize winner. Hello, they dont care. Theyre not going to criticize the guy. A few terrorists youre missing the point, bob, hes not the king of peace in reality but no one cares about what the truth is. They disregard it in its entirety. Whether its benghazi. Whether its obama care. How do you know his aides didnt tell him about the grandfather clause and thats what he was using . Right, thats a good one. I do want to say that obama cares the one thing thats been able to unite the left and the right. Theres actually bipartisan opposition to the current affairs. Where greg groes from here i dont know. Know what has grandfather claws . A really old cat. I metaphor is what i yeah, i got you. I have to show you this great picture. Where was this, tennessee . Did you see this . This is genius, by the way. Brian kelsey. Is he a state senator. Handed Kathleen Sebelius website for dummies. Someone who is so like, greg, if it were you or me or anywhere at this table and someone tried to hand us that, we would look at them and go, are you out of your mind, im not taking that. She takes it and pictures are snapped with her holding websites for dumb ydummies. They really need to get rigd he, clean house. Cgi, wow, are they lost, completely in the weeds. November, good luck, theres no chance i had a dream about sebelius you have weird dream also. She w