Eits, our nation and in particular this agency did a lot of things right during this difficult time to keep this country strong and secure. But was the Program Worth it . Heres more from john brennan. Detainees who were subjected to eits at some point during their confinement, subsequently provided information that our experts found to be useful and valuable in our counterterrorism experts. Do you think the bin laden case can be attributed in some part to enhanced interrogation techniques or torture . It is our considered view that the detainees who were subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques provided information that was useful and was used in the ultimate operation to go against bin laden. So throughout the 45minute news conference, brennan never used the word torture once. He said officers involved in the program did what they were asked to do in the service of our nation. So, bob, yesterday you suggested former cia directors george tenant, michael goss, lied, do you want to add a fourth and a friend of boem obamas . I didnt think i used the word lie. Yeah, you did. Nothing in that said advanced techniques. He didnt find out about it in 2006. The cia by its own admission kept its information away from secretary of state colin powell because they were worried he would react negatively to it. The cias own cable said they are bordering breaking the law and rodriguez is a stellar example of somebody said he send a cable back saying we shouldnt be talking about the law and then but the question was and yesterday we brought this up, there are three former cia directors who said that the enhanced interrogation techniques helped us, led us kept led us to bin laden. Brennan said the exact same thing. He said in part. In part. What part do you wish they didnt have . How can you get to a whole if you dont have a part . The idea that somehow this was only the way to get to bin laden which the spin that a lot of people are giving you here is not true. I love it. How ungrateful. You called people who served this country fearlessly liars. Thats what you are saying. Its disgusting. It wasnt called torture. It was enhanced interrogation techniques that were approved by the Justice Department that was illegal that was legal at the time it was was carried out . What part do you get, part or whole . These are part of the obama wont do it. This was the bush Justice Department. They are not going to prosecute these guys. Greg, any question that the eits that they used helped . I think there are conflicting opinions on that. I kind of believe that they did, and i actually do and by the way, when you compare water bordering to beheading, i still think we take the high road. I may be crazy but i think were better than they are even when we do a little bit of water boarding. We dont cut off their heads. This report cost 50 million. What were they spending it on, carafes of coffee, pastries . Thats the waste. They didnt even interview the people that were engage in doing this. You know, lets say alan west wrote a 500page slam on you, bob, and never called you, what would you call him . I would think it would be unfair to do it. I agree with you. I agree they should have asked these people questions but they have 6,000 page of information here. But the other problem too by defending the cia, there are people in the media that couldnt flat that with championing torture. Whenever we say were defending the cia for what they did. No, were simply defending their role in the time. I like to use the liberal term it was for the greater good. We water boarded for the greater good. They have used that line with mao, and stalin, we water boarded for the greater good. Just like we do predator drones. You ask a guy, you want to get hit with your wife, children, your family hit with a predator drone. I get dane in in here. Dana take us through brennan. He was there during those days and now president obama has appointed him cia director. Hes been on boect sides of it. Hes been there when Bush Administration was there and also there when obama was there. He dedicated his career to government. This is somebody who knows what hes talking about, extremely experienced and somebody who is trying to hold together an agency thats responsible for keeping all of us safe in the midst of a washington, d. C. That thinks they are a bunch of liars and they have stained america. I think that he is facing a morale problem and a crisis of confidence amongst his the agents and the analysts and the people at the cia are thinking is anybody going to stand up for us, thats what he did today and i think he he did a fairly good job of it. On the Senate Democrats report, this is not a Senate Report by any stretch. The way that its suggesting that its okay that they just read cables and they didnt talk to anybody who was actually involved in the program is the equivalent of doing a drone strike versus human intelligence, which is really what were talking about here. The question of what are you willing to give up . Im if for the all of the above strategy and i dont want to take anything off the table, and i hope that we are going to as a country reject the suggestion today by the United Nations, that the United Nations now wants to do an investigation, perhaps they would even talk to the cia directors when our Senate Democrats wouldnt. Lets move on to this. One of the many outraged by the cia coming under fire, dick cheney who was very fired up last night on special report. They didnt bother to interview key people involved in the program. What happened was we asked the agency to go put in place a program to catch the bastards who killed 3,000 of us on 9 11. Thats exactly what they did. They should receive credit. Not the kind of condemnation they are receiving from the Senate Democrats. Weve got the terrorist who would have taken out the white house or the Capital Building if in fact they hadnt been for the passenger on united 93. He is, in our possession, we know hes the architect, and what are we supposed to do, kiss him on both cheeks, and say, please, please, tell us what you know. This report says it was not successful. This report is full of crap. Did he read obamacare . Go ahead, greg. Hes fired up and its refreshing someone to say im not backing away from the report. Theres a lot of people, millions of people who hate dick cheney, because hes a mean son of a b, dana, but who would you rather have in your corner fighting terror . A mean son of a b or the New York TimesEditorial Board who hates him. Its his rug ruthlessness that guarantees the life of pass pacificists. Again, within the law. Does everyone understand that . You are trying to punish somebody for a crime that was infer even considered a crime because now you have some moral disfavor with it . Look yourself in the face and say am i hip owe krit . Does that make colin powell a hippo krit, who felt he had false information . The president of the United States didnt get a brief on this until bob, you are taking that from the Senate Democrats report . No. The paul thing is before that. Were not talking about powell. You have several times that the president and Vice President were kept in the dark from the cia. That comes from the Senate Democrats report in which they did not talk to any of the directories ask them did you keep something from president. In the president s own book says that. No, he didnt say that. He said he believes he had the information he needed. So did dick cheney. I dont understand why you are repeating that. The fact of the matter is i dont believe him. You are all looking back and saying bush, you know, at one point there was a congressional letter that was sent by 58 Democratic Congress people saying we should look into whether or not george bush was criminal in what he did with interrogations. Can you imagine 10 or 15 years down the road a Republican Senate in congress saying remember obama back in 14, he was summarily droning people, killing some Collateral Damage women and children, maybe he should be a war criminal . I think its a ridiculous suggestion to go after bush. I agree with you on that that. Thats fair enough. Intelligence Committee ChairwomanDianne Feinstein admitted she had political motives to release the report. Im just surprised feinstein didnt release the last week so she could have been times person of the year. After her now, she will have a reputation of bearing a grudge. I personally believe that theres some sort of a beef with the cia and senators feinstein and this is just her effort on the way out. Why is the bar so low when it comes to facts these days whether its immigration, law enforcement, National Security . Its because of politics. Politics was the wolf that we would bar at the door when dealing with National Security, because were all americans. But bob, not you, but the left has succeeded in making all things political, including the personal, including safety, so now whenever we discuss these things, what used to be whats best for america is now whats best for my political beliefs and thats why facts, in terms of cases about, like the Rolling Stone story dont matter as much when you talk about facts about gun control, it didnt really matter, when you talk about shootings across the country, it doesnt really matter. Its about feeling and ideology. Its not about reality. Also the fact is that Dianne Feinstein has subjected the three people who are beating up on her, werm not we did not have one person who said something positive. We edited them all out. I think her feeling about the plitization, i think shes right. If it got past january 1, the republicans wouldnt have allowed her to get to the floor and do that. If it got past january 1, maybe they would have been the cia directors be involved. I think its better government to have done it that way. What she did was so partisan, so uncharacteristic of her. It is uncharacteristic and ive known her my whole life and im very surprised that shes decided to do this and im sad that this is going to be a legacy thats going to stick with her going forward. Its my racket ball partner and i dont think im playing with her anymore. Wise decision. Ahead on the five, youll never guess which countries are coming out to criticize us, the United States for Human Rights Violations after that reports release. 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Here we are where the media and enemies agree, isolating if you envisioned the nazis doing this or the khmer ruj doing this, you can imagine that. Those groups you mentioned killed 8 million people. Our cia water boarded roughly 40. Not quite the size of our audience, but close. They did it to safe you. You got to love china, creator of the great leap forward that killed millions. So if you are in the military, what do you do when the people you protected for so long say so long . Dont become a cop. So dana, since anderson made that statement, he tweeted that thats not what he did. He didnt mean to make it equivalent between what cia does and nazi germany and the kmeer ruj. Sound bite and he says i even hate to say this and next morning, obviously i didnt mean what i said, but he actually obviously he was thinking through what he said, and he did say it and it shuts down conversation when you call someone a nazi. Theres like nowhere to go from there. Yet you still do it to me. Eric, when your adversaries agree with your point of view, isnt it time to rethink your point of view . Its funny, the world hates us until they need us, were curing ebola and earthquakes and floods. Then they hate us once the disaster passes. They are going to sign this thing and become law. Weve increased our foreign aid up to 49 billion. Were giving away 49 billion. Its not that much. Its billion. In the scheme of things is how about a billion and a half to egypt . How about 6 billion fighting aids . Listen, they all point the finger at us for the way we do things, but the way we do things frankly is allowing us to spend 49 billion on other countries. Correct. You are a big fan of china, bob. Youve said that many time. One of your favorite countries. You love that wall. Yeah. Its wonderful. I wish it was higher and they would stay where they were. Should we listen to iran or china . No, of course not. This seems to have been an ideal opportunity for barack obama to come out and say, wait a minute, what are you talking about . You guys, particularly, north korea, russia, iran, you guys are some of the greatest human rights violators in the history of the world, and again i dont agree with what happened, the idea theres any qifles si is here happen. I think he should have fired back and said shut up while you get your act straightened up. The white house argument could be that this is why interrogation was wrong, because it allows the enemies to criticize us and claim a Higher Ground but they are going to do that anyway. But guess what, if you have thin skin, if you care, if you know that you have the moral high ground, you are doing the right you are actually effecting justice and National Security for other countries as well. Were helping to keep all of them to safe, who is the first person they call when they need help, with when they have people murdering and slaughtering and committing genocide. You call the u. S. This includes to be one of the greatest propaganda victories for isis and al qaeda. They are going to be able to are bad, evil. Putting the men and women who serve overseas in danger. Theres going to be some kind of act or retribution for something we dont do anymore. It makes a good point about propaganda. I think hopefully when we get past this report and the congress can reconvene in january, they are going to be a focus of helping the cia, dod, state department others, deal with the fact that we are going to be a 70year long propaganda and ideological war. This is not something that were going to be able to deal with in 13 years and move on like it never happened. 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