Very, very critical point in the history of this country. And i think you got two conventions coming up that are going to be very, very challenging to handle. And i dont think theyre going to go without some incident takes place. Its unfortunate, but thats what i personally think. Dallas police chief david brown has an interesting solution how to make things better. Heres what his message was to black lives matter protesters earlier. Im the kind of person if i probably wouldnt protest or complain. Id get involved and do something about it by becoming part of the solution. Serve your community. Dont be a part of the problem. Were hiring. Were hiring. Get off that protest line and put an application in. And well put you in your neighborhood and we will help you resolve some of the problems you are protesting about. Great message, right . Get on board and help out. I think its a great message. The only challenge is can the folks that hes talking to match the application requirements . They might have to change that. For example, if you have a certain thing in your background that might keep you from becoming a Police Officer, you might have to change that. But i want to address the powder keg question. If thats indeed real, if we are living on a powder keg and why, i think its because its based on leisure. We have a bored society. If you look over the long term violence is going down. Weve become generally more peaceful. The necessities of life have been met. You have a cell phone, you have tvs, cheap food, nice clothes, easy relationships. So whats next . Faced with the challenges of leisure, you turn to conflict instead of contemplation because you dont know what else to do. People from other countries, like rwanda and somalia came here and saw what we were protesting, they would be, are you out of your mind . I would give like to have onetenth of what you have. But we got so much. We talked about it, we briefly touched the on it in the beginning of the show. Another shooting in michigan, two bailiffs killed. Are we dealing with some sort of national epidemic. I hesitate to call it that. But ramsey said there are tensions are high, things are volatile right now. Were dealing with a country that is in flux. Were dealing with a country that has had a tremendous amount of vitriol and incendiary rhetoric blaming the Police Department which i totally oppose. And its very sad to see now officers to have a target on their back because, believe me, the majority of the people in this country appreciate that you protect and serve and you help make our communities safe. Having worked for years as a prosecutor in, you know, very serious cases including death penalty, obviously security in the courtroom is of paramount concern. And you have individuals that sometime like this think they have nothing to lose and try to pull a weapon off an officer and one of the courtroom deputies like we saw happened here, and my heart goes out to the families and to the victims in this. You think this is copycat . Is this a i dont know, a movement thats happening, kill cops . When you look back over time you can say hindsights 20 20 and either it was or wasnt coordinated. I think its a little bit too early to say. Its the heat of summer. People have leisure time. Right . So i think theres that. But i also think that something that david french of the National Review wrote today was really interesting. Of course id love everybodys thoughts and juans in particular about it. The grievances about black lives matter are concerned about are real to them. And some of them, i think, are legitimate questions that society has to deal with. But within the element of the blm, you have this radicalized or extremist type violence that is basically coloring the entire movement as to be something that maybe it perhaps didnt intend to be initially. And i dont know at this point how do they separate those two things out because the attacks on cops obviously is very highly charged, and then you see somebody like the police chief, david brown of dallas, im so glad that america has had a chance to meet somebody like that. What a leader at a time when we really could use one. Juan . I think its very important to understand that the impression that was left by the social media of last week before the dallas shootings, the shootings of those two black men, one in baton rouge and the other in minnesota. I think thats spread in the social media environment like a wildfire. So to my mind, black lives matter had actually been in decline especially after the politics. Remember, you know, they tried to, you know, confront Hillary Clinton, shush Bernie Sanders and all the rest, and it really had not amounted to much. You didnt have much support coming to them from the congressional black caucus, from local elected officials or even president obama. But now you have people who are back on their heels in the aftermath of the dallas shooting, people who feel on the defense as if their issue is being obscured and they feel like, well, gee, we understand. If they dont feel responsible for the one maniac we always have extremists and maniacs in every movement, but they dont feel responsible for the man who pulled the trigger perpetrating those horrific things in dallas. Before he knew any of the circumstances regarding the two incidents youre talking about, minnesota and baton rouge, he took to the podium and basically said, this has to stop. He didnt know what had to stop yet. But he went ahead and did it. Im not sure that didnt charge up the black lives matter. Thats not a responsible statement to make, he didnt know. What he knew is there are people in our society and this is what i think youre not picking up on. There are people in our society who feel they do not have equal treatment from the police. You can say youre wrong, but you have to point them. You have to make sure that the society is listening in response. All im saying is he should have waited to find out what the facts of the case were and if it appeared as he thought it was, then go ahead. My problem is the timing. Two hours after he goes to the podium, five cops are dead. Oh, my gosh, that association is out of line. Come on, eric. The shooter clearly said he used the black lives matter protest to speed up whatever he was planning on doing. No, no, no. First of all, what we know is he had amassed a lot of ammunition and explosives. He was going to do something, no doubt. You had these incidents take place in louisiana and minnesota and you had a peaceful march. Everybody says it was a peaceful march and he takes advantage of that moment. Why do you want to blame black hives matter . President obama spend time overseas defending the black lives matter movement. The Abolition Movement was contentious. The effort for women to get the right to vote was contentious and messy. The same was true with the Civil Rights Movement and the Union Movement and the Environmental Movement and the Antiwar Movement during vietnam. And i think what youre seeing now is part of that longstanding tradition. Lets bring it around this way. Juan, i want to hear what you have to say, but the womens right to vote, Civil Rights Movement, abolition, antiwar and blm, all on equal footing. Yeah, i mean, he just seems so out of touch. To me, this is such irresponsible rhetoric. I dont think theres any fair comparison between those movements like he said women trying to fight for the right to vote and black lives matter and people that support black lives matter calling for the death of Police Officers to kill cops like the guy that supported them that committed these heinous coldblooded murders of officers in dallas, just like the shooting in michigan. Horrible situations that we see happening now against Law Enforcement and, you know, unfortunately, the dna of black lives matter is associated with this. Juan, do you put black lives matter on the same level that president obama does on the womens right to vote, the Civil Rights Movement, the abolition moveme movement . Yeah, what youre seeing is conschenn ten shush movements. We didnt like the idea of the British Military and their guns who were coming in and telling us what to do and imposing taxes and even staying in our houses without our volition. So we fought back. I think what you see is in all these cases you have people who say, oh, theyre extremists among you involved in the movement. So therefore youre responsible for the very worst elements. Those are people who really dont want to change, dont want to hear the grievance. Dana, your thoughts on that equal footing for them . I think that whether i agree with president obama or not, it is incumbent on the rest of us to realize that there are a lot of people in america who do agree with him. From a leadership standpoint, what do we need to do . I think that these things sort of ebb and flow over time. Its built up over a feeling by africanamericans that they are unfairly targeted by police. Theres a study in the New York Times from somebody from harvard, lets look at the evidence. And the lethality argument is actually not there. It does not hold up. But again, from social media and the perception, president obama is giving voice to people that he thinks have a grievance and hes trying to find a way, i guess, to channel it. I dont necessarily agree with it, but i think we have to recognize that there are a lot of people who do feel that way. Legitimate protest group, should be recognized . This is the topic of my monologue in the next segment. So im trying to think of something other than what im going to say next. I will say this. If you took a Civil Rights Movement or if you actually took a time travel machine and brought them forward and saw some of the grievances im not talking black lives matter, but all the Progressive Movement grievances on the campuses, the cry for safe spaces, their heads would explode. Any civil rights activist from the 60s, if they went on to harvard campuses and saw that they were divesting over coal or saying Climate Change causes terror, every commonsense civil rights leader or hero or womens right would go like i cant believe you guys. Youre making a mockery of everything we fought for. Lets take a listen to donald trump and Hillary Clinton on this exactly topic. Listen. I want our Nations Police to know that we thank you from the bottom of our heart. Americas police and Law Enforcement personnel are what separates civilization from total chaos. And the destruction of our country as we know it. Its time for our hostility against our police and against all members of Law Enforcement to end and end immediately right now. I am the law and order candidate. I will call for white people like myself to put ourselves in the shoes of those africanamerican families who fear every time their children go somewhere. Im going to be talking to white people. I think were the ones who have to start listening to the legitimate cries that are coming from our africanamerican fellow citizens. You want to go . No, i was almost throwing up listening to her. But go ahead. This is your choice, america. And the important thing in an election is where you can draw a contrast between two candidates and the approach and so there you have it. There are two distinct choices. What i think is very interesting is whoever wins out of those two, theyre going to have to deal with this problem and how they decide to deal with it will be really important for all of our futures. We were talking about this on friday. The idea that, like, how these huge conflicts, these horrible events we experience them, then we completely move on to another one. And i keep going back to the point that i made on friday that since sunday has become another saturday, there is no period to the end of our sentences. So we dont actually end the week contemplating what happened monday through friday when a Community Comes together at church and they sit and they talk about it, and they deescalate the emotions and they Start Talking about the facts, but we dont have that period anymore. So the sentence keeps going on and on and on. So no one ever actually comes to any conclusions, they just get angrier. Its a runon sentence. Yes. And . And i think that trump really nailed it there in terms of his messaging and getting out a message to people saying i am the law and order candidate. Thats what people want to hear right now, that youre going to restore order, youre going to restore Public Safety because people feel unsafe in america because the people that are supposed to be protecting us are now under siege. Hillary has a different approach. Talk to the white people. Lets talk to everybody. What we need is healing. I dont think we need that incendiary rhetoric. To me its incredible. Trump has engaged in bigoted language, xenophobia, hes put down women in a really excorible way. Were all for law and order here. Nobodys for anarchy, lets just be clear. So this is a false divide. And the reality is people want to ignore what trump has been running on. We have to leave it there. At 9 00 p. M. Megyn kelly be joined with members from some of the Largest Police groups along with leaders from the black lives matter group. You dont want to miss that. Next, how the Mainstream Media has been covering the black lives matter movement. And ahead, a big day for us. Not only our fifth anniversary but the bus were going to take on the road trip to the president ial conventions has arrived in new york city. Theres the bus in times square. Later well take you inside as we see it for first time ourselves. You dont want to miss that one. R a dvt blood clot. What about my wife. What were building together. And could this happen again . 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Thats their default response. Grievance always trumps grieving. It must have been hard then for the paper to report on a new study that finds absolutely no racial bias in Police Shootings, which undermines the whole narrative. But facts lose the feelings for identity politics always culminates in emotional tribalism because such division has guarantees attention. But the times shouldnt fret, the victories of victimhood remain intact. Here the media slobbers over this photo. How powerful . A lone woman stands against the evil militarized police. So even after five good men are murdered, the stereotype must be maintained. The brutal force against the bravely peaceful. How touching, how fake. Seriously, what happened to the rage . When the issue was police brutality, it was no justice, no peace. Now the issues murdered police and its lets sing kumbaya. No thanks. Ice cubes band did a song called f the police. Recently he got paid millions to play a Police Officer in ride along. And ice ts band did a song called cop killer. Hes been playing a cop on tv for 16 years. Maybe targeting and trashing the police is a movement, career wise, anyway. Anyway. Rudy. Rudy had this to say about black lives m