Least crisis. The president hoped he could somehow come to an end. And now, he is in rome discussing policy. Those three countries, those regions he just toured, what message would we take from all of this . Not necessarily making religion the forefront, but it is certainly there. He is definitely sending a message and religion is very much at the center of it. Thats one of the nuances of this trip. He is visiting all three popular faiths in america. Pope francis has been welcomed to the Catholic Church, he has made a point in talking about inclusivity. Talking about the commonalities among muslims, jews, christians. I think thats where we will find that meeting on common ground. Leland it appears as though the door of the meeting has opened. We are seeing the back of the first lady, the president and the pope standing there together. Is there any sound coming from Vatican Television . Can we listen in a little bit . [inaudible] [inaudible] leland these of the first pictures coming just after the president and the pope finish what was about a 30 minute closeddoor meeting, they seem to certainly be all smiles as they came. You see Rex Tillerson meeting pope francis, it is tough to get the audio in here. They dont have boom microphones out there. Father jonathan pointed out there was some type of religious object given to the first lady, that the pope blessed. Very interesting note, from john roberts who is talking about exactly what has been going on here, there is talk in the vatican, we dont know for sure yet, the pope could give the president and all of the branch as opposed to the peach e medallion that we talked about earlier which would set a tone for this meeting. We dont know what happened inside the meeting, we havent gotten a readout from anyone. This is just the view of the two men here. This is just the president introducing to the pope is traveling staff that of come with. See there, ivanka trump, jared there as well, omnipresent on this trip. Anything we can read from the body language . It was very sweet how melania received some religious object, not sure what it was. She stepped away and came back to the holy father and it seems like she said would you please bless this . It was obviously a very moving moment for her that she took very seriously. Julie talk to me about a head of state, what the president would typically receive from the pope on a visit like this . There are some gifts that are given, it will be interesting to see exactly what the pope does. On this table is what we are looking at, typically the book, the pope likes to give books to World Leaders. Will be looking at something in that box. Its a sign of affection and esteem. This is amazing, looking at the leader of the free world and the leader of the Catholic Church who shared so many mutual interests. Who are both believe, these are men of god. They are recognizing each other and the gifts are always in all cultures, but in christianity especially, a gift is a sign of your esteem that you offer to your fellow man. Julie a medallion also related to peace. What do you believe we are looking at here . It looks like the medallion in the pope was explaining. The pope does like to express the sentiment that he is trying to convey. World peace is at the heart of the Catholic Church is message. The United States efforts, guarantee and safeguard the piece. Pope francis is giving us what we as christians always need is a reminder that we have to suppress violent instincts. Julie i know all we hear our camera clicks but maybe we can get some audio. [inaudible] thank you very much. Leland this is now the expanded meeting, we had the private meeting between the president and the pope, then we had the exchange of gifts and now we have the larger entourage. The president , the pope, the member of the president s traveling delegation. Its too bad that the audio was so low. They really pick up the sound coming from these at two men as they talk. The signal we are getting from Vatican Television doesnt give us enough to pick up. You can pick up a little body language, the president said beautiful a few times. Julie what are they being handed right here . I am trying to get a good look at it. Usually in these circumstances they are giving it to the catholics. Prayer beads, to help in our prayer, and two noncatholics they will get some thing else of religious significance. Julie President Trump is a very friendly person. When he meets with heads of state or other president s, when a meeting goes well, they will shake hands. Sometimes the president tends to do a reach around, a little tap on the back, a little sign of endearment. The president is an affectionate president and the pope is as well. Its interesting to watch their body language. I wonder if they will hug, is that something you will typically see in the vatican . Just pointing out that our president is an affectionate guy and he likes to show that body language. Many of us dont know because we dont know him personally. Leland i dont know that i would be the first want to hug the pope. Can you hug the pope . Julie the pope is very affectionate, too. I think youll be surprised if donald trump gave him a hug. Julie these are the things i think about, i am waiting for a hug here. Will work on that for you, julie. Julie a lot of smiles going on, i think when they finally say goodbye, it would be sweet to see the president and the pope in brace and away. Leland you have to read into the body language here, there appears to be a warmth and comfort between the two of them. The discussion about the animosity between the two, the differences and now we see this, lets listen in. [inaudible] julie as they make their way out of these rooms post there was no hug. A very warm handshake but there was no hug. Julie thats fine, they smiled and exchange pleasantrie pleasantries. Leland i just wanted to let you know. Julie amy kellogg is live outside the vatican. The anticipation from where you stand must be pretty incredible. What was it like, seeing the president of the United States pull up and enter the vatican . It was an extraordinary motorcade, ive never seen such a long motorcade. The president and the first family and his entourage. Apparently the pope came up in a ford focus, that is also very symbolic and telling, the differences between the two. Just from a purely observational point of view, it seems that the most smiles were reserved for Melania Trump. Watching the body language of the holy father and the first family and President Trumps entourage. I think it sounds like the general audience is just beginning behind us. That is the reason why this meeting was so early in the morning, pope francis takes his general audience incredibly seriously on wednesday morning at 10 00. It would appear that is starting right now. With the meeting lasted the one on one between President Trump and pope francis lasted about 3. The shots of them walking through, President Trump walking through the apostolic palace, accompanied by the gentleman of his holiness, the aristocratic honor guard walking down those marble halls, it was quite extraordinary. They stuck to protocol, we saw ivanka trump and Melania Trump wearing veils, over their heads, which is expected on visits, a few italians have commented that they wish President Trump had buttoned his jacket in terms of the visual. We saw this initial meeting between pope francis and donald trump, President Trump looks a bit more, pope francis smiled and it took a little while to set in but he seemed to loosen up when they went into the library for their one on one. We got a few glimpses of that meeting before the doors were shut, we have yet to get a read out on exactly what we discussed. There has been all the talk about their differences and their indirect barbs at one another over walls and borders, Climate Change and any number of issues. At the end of the day, they appeared to really want and i think it was a sense of getting to know each other. The two possibly most powerful men in the world, President Trump coming off this very spiritual trip that brought them to the heartland of the other abraham estates, in place of the two holy mosques, in the holy land of jerusalem just yesterday. This kind of caps it off. When you talk about the fight against terrorism and extremism, to be surrounded by spirituality and leaders who can do their best to change the dialogue the hearts hearts and minds. Julie hes exiting at this point, we understand that meeting and this tour will end at 9 30. It seems theyre on a very tight schedule. Yes. President trump has to meet a few other members of the gaddi n hierarchy. Most important, the secretary of state. He is seeing the Sistine Chapel before heading off to be the president of italy who is not a figurehead but the Prime Minister is the one who actually leads the government here. Trump will meet both of those, the president and the Prime Minister of italy. Amy kellogg in there, you can hear in the background, the beginnings of the popes audience on wednesday, his general audience, thank you. Bring back father Jonathan Morris who is with us. The president doesnt seem like well be getting any more live pictures, the pope and the theye gone their separate witness. Thoughts on the media and how this when compared to the buildup . Register member even less than two months ago, a lot of people saying its not on his schedule to meet with pope francis. That must mean that pope francis didnt want to meet with him, must mean that the president doesnt want to meet with the pope, neither of those turned out to be true. The media blew that way out of proportion. To be confirmed within a few weeks. My guess is President Trump was very happy at the beginning of his president , he had these three religions. Judaism, islam, meeting with the highest leaders of the states. Im sure now that President Trump feels like he can actually reach out to the pope on issues that he thinks are important. Leland amy kellogg brought up a great point about the level of security that was involved in this visit for President Trump to the vatican. Any time the president moves there is a lot of security. On this particular trip there was even more security. Middle of the night here in the United States, 9 17 there in the vatican where the president is. 8 17 in the United Kingdom where the president is now. The critical terror level, the Prime Minister yesterday raising that terror level, they that a terrorist attack was imminent. When you have Something Like that in the United Kingdom, it tends to be european wide that they raise their alertness leve level. Julie i also believe they will be bringing that up when he does meet with the italian president. The Prime Minister certainly has more power there, but when it comes to the global war on terrorism, every country is affected. Italy is not under that critical response, they are not under an imminent threat, the threat remains. If we could just continue to talk with a former member of the Fbi Joint Terrorism Task force who is joining us, as far as the talk of terror, the timing in all of this is critical. Just sunday in saudi arabia, President Trump delivered that speech that is being widely received as a successful speech in reaching out and branching out, so many different religions. At the end of the day he said it is not about religion, these terrorists are not about religion. Their obsession is with death. He goes and meets with the pontiff today. How does that play . Its very important that he met with the other religious leaders, bringing many powerful people together, to address terrorism from the perspective where it is going to be all in. Every country is going to be involved including our spiritual leaders. With regard to security, there are advance teams well ahead of these trips were doing constant assessments, im sure the president s team was very closely coordinating the security here at the vatican well ahead of time before the president got there. Julie thats a great point, im glad you brought that up. The nypd when they recently had to prepare for the president s visit, his first visit since his inauguration here in new york city, they said they have not had to prepare for any security event like this since the popes visit. The popes visit was tremendous as far as a number of special ops and counterterrorism units charged with protecting the city. Right now, the vatican is having to do with new york city did. Given the recent attack and their recent events in manchester, how did they plan this for a month . They only had days due to extra security, considering the fact that this terrorist attack happened on a monday and here we are on wednesday morning, just a couple of days later, for them to get all their ducks in a row so they would be properly equipped. A lot more intelligences being analyzed, Emergency Response teams are certainly increased in the event that there is an incident, a lot of electronic intercepts are being done, more so because of the incident that happened in england. You see everything getting ramped up. As the president moves on, you are going to see more and more security implemented and a lot of these areas. Theres a lot that we wont see. In the city of new york, probably the safest place in the world right now, people will see heavily armed police officers, canine units, its what they dont see that really brings it security to the city and other places around the world. Leland steve, appreciate you being with us, standby. We are waiting, you can see st. Peters square filling up there for the popes audience after about a 30 minute meeting with President Trump. Joining us from d. C. , i would assume that you are there and watched everything. I was very struck today, as we watched the pope meeting with the president of the United States, the study in contrasts. Pope francis on one side, a guy whose life has been growing up on the streets, embracing the poor. A billionaire donald trump on the other side, has now risen to become a leader of the free world. The two men have had a very storied history, now over the last year or so, of trading barbs directly or indirectly, whether intentional or not, the press has definitely played those up. This was an important meeting. You have President Trump and pope francis finally together in a room, they got a chance to have a human connection. I thought it was amazing to watch trumps family assemble alongside the pope to take a photo. Any of the president s critics are upset that his family has been involved in the politics of the United States, i thought that was a touching moment that american catholics are going to receive warmly to see how proud the family seems to be to have a moment together to take photos with the pope. My sense is that behind closed doors, that meeting was probably some of prayer, some of love, but ultimately these are two very plainspoken man. Neither of them have ever held back from expressing an opinion, even when it is unpopular or uncomfortable. Leland you bring up the issue of opinion. This is very poignant on that, coming from our colleagues at cbs radio, it was very difficult to hear as the president and the pope talked on camera as they exchange pleasantries, said hello and goodbye. Cbs now transcribing some of that and saying according to cbs, the president saying i wont forget what you said trump tells pope francis as he left. If you have the president say over what i wont forget what you said. You think that behind closed doors, there were probably some conversations. Or at very least a call to be acknowledging. In that call, i think the president of the United States will be loyal. Ultimately, weve talked so much in terms of domestic politics about President Trumps abilities to go off script and have these once gifted moments and be irreverent occasionally. In this trip, but especially now here at the vatican, but we saw was a deep sense of reverence and diplomacy and respect. Leland how does that play in the United States . You have President Trump who has come in, some social conservatives, many catholics were solely counting on the president related to the supreme court, he came through for them on that with justice gorsuch. There were other questions in terms of what he was going to deliver. Does this meeting, even if it wasnt perfectly harmonious, does this sort of reaffirm the president s commitment to the religious conservatives who were instrumental in putting him in office . I think it sums a strong message. I also thought that President Trump, whatever his relationship with christ or his church, we heard it during the campaign, two corinthians, ham handedly, that was a funny moment. Believing he had such strong support i think among American Christians is because they believed that he would be defenders of their faith. It wasnt necessarily about the strength of his faith, it was about his protection of religious freedom and being concerned for the christians in the catholic who live within the United States. I think theyre going to take a strong signal from this, i think this entire trip will be one that is probably purging to pope francis, the fact that ultimately the goal of