Financed by his political opponents . No. I dont think i used the term steele dossier. I talked about additional material. Did he have a right to know that . That it had been financed by his political opponents . I dont know the answer to that. It wasnt necessary for my goal, which was to alert him that we had this information. Did you tell him you thought it wasnt true or you didnt know if it was true or not . I never said i dont believe it because i couldnt say one way or another. Did you believe his denial . Honestly never thought these words would come out of my mouth but i dont know whether the current president of the United States with prostitutes peeing on each other in moscow in 2013. Its possible but i dont know. Kimberly i apologize for that language for a second there. Mr. Trump has some words of his own this morning, calling comey a proven leaker and liar. A weak and untruthful slime ball who was a terrible director of the fbi. He says it was his great honor to fire comey. Well, Sarah Sanders was just asked about that attack on the former fbi director. Isnt all of that a bit unbecoming of the presidency of this white house to go after him in such a personal way like that . I think. Call him a slime ball and a liar and leaker. Unbecoming for the person that is supposed to be the top Law Enforcement official in the United States. The person that is supposed to protect the people of this country to lie and leak classified information, certainly to falsify documents. I didnt encourage james comey to go out and do a p. R. Campaign. Congress has asked jim comey to come and testify multiple times, of which he denies being able to do. Yet, he found time to sit down with George Stephanopoulos for five hours. Kimberly okay. So obviously some rough stuff there in terms of going back and forth. People thought this book was going to be quite explosive. You saw the startup this morning with the president tweeting. You saw the reaction on social media and online. So we take you around the table and reflections greg . This isnt deep throat. Its more like gossip girl. The white half moons under his eyes . Thats a revelation . We notice that every time he is talking because he is out on the golf course. Comey is in this eternal state of surprise or emotional anguish. He is always conflicted and things are bothering him. How do i deal with this and then this happens. He is always the world is always happening to him. Right . And he is just the every man, the jimmy stuart. He said when he met trump, he said it reminded him of a mafia boss as if thats a problem. I mean, if that if thats a problem, when you are dealing with north korea and putin, i think america might see that as a plus. I would much rather have, i guess, a mafia boss than a grad student t. A. I think thats like thats your revelation . Its a very emotional book. Its like its a tellall by an ex. Looking forward to one of those. Kimberly he is going through the whole poetry. Yes. Kimberly where are we going here with this. Right . Exactly. Dana, what do you think in terms of the rollout from this from a Communications Perspective . Dana for who . For the president . Kimberly for comey, first. Dana i think its textbook. They have been pitching this book ever since he got the advance to write it. The preorders were probably off the charts. He is going to be the darling of the media for the next several days. But, i do think when he is talking about the mafia boss, its not about Foreign Policy. He is talking about the demands for loyalty from people who work in the government and thats what comey says led to his being fired because he wasnt going to be that person. Gregg i like the whole package. If thats part of being a mafia boss, okay. Kimberly okay. To each his own. Dana if it were obama saying that to holder we would credit we did criticize holder for not being aggressive and independent enough and defending the president when he didnt deserve it. Gregg it comes down to one fact that there is a certain kind of person who runs for president , trump isnt that person, no matter how hard you want him to be mitt romney or al gore. Dana president. Gregg he did. He did it without the purity test. All politicians know how to fake. Kimberly wow. Jesse definitely acts like a mob boss. Hes not a mob boss. I think comey a little sensitive to pick up with what greg said. He reminds me of the kid that didnt really have the stomach to confront someone face to face. And then later ran back and scribbled it down in his little diary and wrote it in his little note pad and now he is just trying to prof profiteer off of it like most people try to profit off the president. He botched two investigations, the hillary and the trump investigation. And he is now really muddying the waters with the mueller investigation. He is one the obstruction of justice centerpieces for this. And he is running his mouth and he is writing tellalls. The way he talks about the dossier is disturbing, too. This dossier was paid for by hillary. Yet, he didnt feel the need to tell the president elect that his biggest nemesis was the one that paid for it and got it out in front of everything . That seems to be a critical piece of information. I thought George Stephanopoulos did a really nice job asking about that. The whole thing about he is a liar and leaker, you cant really discount that, too. He testified under oath that he never leaks. Yet, he leaked this memo to his buddy. And then it hit the press. So he is a liar and leaker. Thats the truth. I dont think this guy he is supposed to be a law man. And, you know, he sounds like a school girl is the bottom line. He is emotional. He is socially awkward. He cant even be alone with the president of the United States. How weird is that . Maria are you serious . Jesse like a child who is not really who i would think be the one, the leading law man in the country, the tough guy who takes people down. I think you can still say that in this day. Gregg you dont have to be genderspecific. Be genderneutral. Jesse a choir boy. Maria jim comey is not a perfect advocate for democrats or republicans. My party hates what he did to Hillary Clinton in reopening the investigation and not telling the public about the trump investigation. Im not going to defend jim comey on his face. I will say the book fits into a narrative about the president and the president s response underscores some of what james comey is saying that he is egodriven, that the president is ego driven. Is he narcissist. The remarks from the president is like a School Yard Bully if you want to continue with your analogy here. So, look, what matters most is not this media blitz. Its going to go on for a couple days. Its bob mueller. You are right that james comey is a key player in this. This book will be interesting and gossipy. What bob mueller finds about jim comeys role and obstruction is what will matter in the end here. Kimberly this is pretty strong language, when you think about it, for the former head of the fbi is to say the president is unethical and untethered to truth and institutional values. That is making a very strong statement. Then again, he did get fired by him. So the problem is youre going to have a situation like this, dana, where obviously the relationship between the two was fraught and maybe the truth is somewhere. Dana i think the book is going to reinforce any preconceived notion have you about President Trump or jim comey. If you are a democrat who thinks he did this for Hillary Clinton and also, remember, we didnt even bring this up that he says that he thought Hillary Clinton was going to win; therefore, thats why he decided to reveal it so she wouldnt look like an illegitimate president. But if you are the trump camp if you are in the hillary camp oh really so you hurt us. And you protected President Trump . And you didnt tell us that President Trump was under investigation . I think the democrats have a lot to be mad at. Kimberly go ahead, greg. Gregg to that point, he wouldnt have done it if it was close. You only did it because you thought it wasnt close. His decision was purely political. Jesse right. He waited a month until they released that to the public. Kimberly was the ethics involved here when you think about it . This is a man who was supposed to be the head of the fbi, leading the best and brightest. Now look in the aftermath of what has occurred in terms of comey, the investigations, the collusion that has come out in terms of strzok and page and what they were up to. Thats really done daj. And this was under his leadership to the american conception of it. Look, fine fbi officers. The men and women that i have worked with throughout my career, i have the utmost respect. They work very hard for very little money. This is not good or healthy as a country to have this. It seems to me, when i read this like poetry and the eye thing. It seems like shakespeare in the park. Fbi, president , lets get it together. Jesse in the National Review jim garety wrote a very good piece and he mentioned a lot of fbi officials who have had long careers there. People defend the james comey in the beginning. They didnt like the way he was fired by the president. Now they are coming out and saying, listen, its always about jim comey. He is a celebrity. Always wants the spotlight on him. We gave him the benefit of the doubt in the beginning. Now its looking like an ego play. They dont like that. They like to focus on the fbi delivering results, not the politicization of the fbi and, unfortunately, thats whats happened here. Kimberly also then he kept the personal notes, and then there was the allegations of leaked information to the New York Times. And when i look at this as a prosecutor, i say, okay, wait a second, whats going on here with respect to these notes . Where are they . Is he going to be compelled to proffer them forward . Whats going on . To me, thats undermines kind of the american sensibility of fairness and appropriateness in terms of what is he doing there . Was it because he was going to write a book or do something . I dont know. Maria i think going back to what i said earlier just because jim comey is imperfect messenger doesnt mean some of the message isnt true. Kimberly fair point. Maria i agree with everything you just said, he has not acquitted himself perfectly here. We cant discard everything he is saying because of that. Jesse he did make a lot of serious allegations as you pointed out about the president being liar and untethered to the truth and unethical. I havent read the whole book. What he pointed out so far, he has not pointed to one specific thing where the president has outright lied. Where the president has done something unethical except for the smears, comparing him to a mob boss or saying he intimidated me which i dont know what that means. If you are the fbi director, someone shouldnt intimidate you. Kimberly there is testimony as well in terms of in front of congressional committees that was called into question. But, anyway, its fascinating to look at and discuss as a lawyer and where the investigation is going. Lets see. Comey once said politics didnt play a role in his handling of the clinton email probe, but he says Something Different in his new book. So which is it . You asked. We have it for you next. vo dogs have evolved, but their nutritional needs remain instinctual. Thats why theres purina one true instinct. Real meat 1. A different breed of natural nutrition. Purina one true instinct. Now, try new purina one true instinct treats. Hey, sir losealot thou hast the patchy beard of a prepubescent squire thy armor was forged by a feeblefingered peasant woman. Your mom as long as hecklers love to heckle, you can count on geico saving folks money. Boring fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Greg greg you have to read it right now. Read your moms text. Jesse my mom got very upset about some language i used. Jesse, you cannot call someone a school girl and then she goes you have to, i think she cut off the word apologize. All right. Back now. Bombshells from his new book. The fbi director throws his former boss under the bus quite a bit questioning Loretta Lynchs partiality on the clinton email probe. Unverified information quote would undoubtedly be used by political opponents to cast serious doubt on the attorney generals independence in connection with the clinton investigation. He also admits his decisiontoa uns no the reopening of the probe right before the election was based around politics. Quote it is entirely possible because i was making decisions in an enviperment where Hillary Clinton was sure to be the next president , my concern about making her an illegitimate president by concealing i restarted the investigation bore greater weight than it would have if the election were closer or if donald trump were ahead in all polls. Dana that is amazing to me because i truly believe that even if he had not come out and said that there was an investigation of Hillary Clinton, that she was still going to lose. She didnt lose because of the investigation. And i mean, he won narrowly in michigan and wisconsin and blew them away in pennsylvania. That was not going to change if people knew about an investigation. People had made up their minds about that. So i just sort of its not your place. No. You are the fbi director. Its not your choice. The American People got to choose. Jesse he put his finger in the air and did the exact same thing. If you dont know Andrew Mccabe the deputy, person at the department of justice investigated by the ig and the reason he was let go, apparently, was because he leaked, greg a story about the Clinton Foundation investigation and got caught when was confronted about it, lied about it to two people. Gregg i cant keep up with this stuff anymore. Dana i do understand that part. Greg suppressed into one day. The thing that gets me about mccabe. I dont know much about him. He had a go fund me page for his Legal Defense fund. And its already close to april answer over 500,000. Greg close to 600,000. Any number of people look at health cause. Assorted charities and poverty, you name it. But, im going to help a government bureaucrat probably pretty well off. Dana and who was a lifelong republican and most of those donations have come from Rachel Maddow at msnbc has helped him out to get hit donations. Democrats are helping mccabe. The other thing about the mccabe piece is that a little confusing. He and his wife are being accused of being too favorable and partisan to democrats. He confirms to the wall street journal that the Clinton Global Initiative is actually under investigation. That doesnt help Hillary Clinton. It helps President Trump. But how does it help him . How does he get in trouble with the ig because they say when he was asked about it he lied and he was trying to protect himself by saying that clinton was under investigation. It really is like dallas. Kimberly it really is thats why people are outraged by it this is what was discussed on this show and across different platforms that this was improper, that he was overstepping his bounds; that he was acting as the investigator on the prosecutor on this. Thats highly problematic. Now you see the disorder between what comey is saying and Loretta Lynch. And what it tells me then is that Loretta Lynch was given some kind of notice, idea, something that he was going to kind of lay her out. Because now he is trying to contradict her which is why you saw, dana, you poised it out so well the other day that she tried to get out ahead of it and preempt it with that statement and now we see why because of what was revealed in the book. Jesse so, maria, im going to give you the floor and you get to vent about how james comey messed around with the hillary investigation twice in the summer and in the fall. Go ahead. Maria what is so bizarre is that he felt a deuteronomy to the american peopl duty to theamerican ped the hillary email. He felt no duty to tell the American People donald trump was under investigation. That smells like partisan politics at its worse. Thats why democrats, one of the reasons they hate him greg could i defend james comey . Jesse no. Go ahead. Greg there is something unique about somebody who is despised by everybody that makes you think maybe they are doing something right . Dana or they are doing everything wrong. Jesse well, do i know if hillary were president she would have fired james comey as well. Dana yeah. Jesse russia returned u. N. To help syria. Is it only a matter of time before the west strikes . Up next. Here you go little guy. A cockroach can survive submerged underwater for 30 minutes. Wow. Yeah. Not getting in today. Terminix. Defenders of home. For the big things in life, we tend to start small. Less of this. Cut back on that. 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