A roundtable ensemble discusses and debates the days news. Program. Other quality shows, like mine. I thought you could tell us about yourself. Thank you for having me here today. Im excited. Thank you. I am a 12 Theater Attorney and i still practice. I practice in california and washington. The majority of my career was spent with the federal government and criminal law. I had the pleasure of cheering in the nfl for the the oakland raiders. I went on a uso tour in kuwait and iraq visiting troops. That remains this day my greatest honor. Me and one of the black hawks. Dana i like that. Jesse you are doing so well. Emily chased a squirrel with that hat on. Thats my car. Greg was telling me about his car. I pick my engine is bigger. Greg 72, right . Dana dude drive that everywhere . Does seattle give you the steam guy when you drive around her neck . Emily i got more negative looks. In seattle, i just said dana beautiful car. Greg haughty make of the idea of anxiety . Could it be a Class Action Lawsuit against trump . Emily they could certainly try. We saw that a suit about caffeine and coffee in california. I feel like its one more thing where the reality, people want to be outraged rather than informed. The whole thing is ridiculous. To me, its an oversimplification of the matte matter. I have Trump Anxiety Syndrome so it must mean x, y, and z. What is that the root of . Fear and fright is usually from lack of education. If we could talk about things, people wouldnt be so frightened of the positive news coming out of the administration. Greg if you are offended, you are complicit in the outrage. I got that from a producer. Donalds isnt making you sick. Its you are letting him get you sick. You have to learn how to manage the emotions and turn it into something productive, correct . Juan i think donald plays on emotions every day. He plays on the fear factor. He likes sister up his base. He likes to mock people and intimidate people. Look at it from the democrats point of view. The base is antitrump and energized to turn out in the midterms. All the numbers are going towards the democrats because the democratic basis so energized. They are upset about trump. Greg deranged. Juan people look around
those people are mentally weak. We had people storming beaches and now they are crying in the streets. The media is so negative. They are saying that the sky is falling. Trump is taking down institutions, fighting with people. He is on twitter. Weve never had a president like that before and people cant process it. People are frustrated because they havent been able to take him down. They have thrown everything of this guy and he is still at 45 space coda 45 . They need to say a shrink. Greg lets ai come and i have all this anxiety. Dana are you in action oriented person or you need to turn off the tv and turn off water . Some people say i dont like to watch the news. Its too negative. Or its too violent. They dont want to watch it. You have a choice. In the serenity prayer, you ask for wisdom for the things you cannot change and the courage to know the difference. I think the other thing is, and i do think the democrats have done this, so have trump supporters. Channel the energy into something else. Run for office, donate, decide to turn something into action so you can get involved. If you feel like you are more involved and youre able to do something on either side, then you can deal with your anxiety better. Greg to what jesse said, i think the stress israel and it has to do with time compression. The fact that trump has packed five incidents in one day. It seems like to him shuffleboard. If there is a news item, he will hit it out with another news
item. We are constantly racing and racing, and i can kind of see where that gets exhausting, even for us. Emily the rapidity of the media cycle can be exhausting. Part of the issue is focusing on the fright and fear of what hasnt happened yet. We are ignoring to our detriment the negative. California has the highest poverty rate if you take into account cost of living. We have 125 billionaires living in that state with 500 billion among them. L. A. County leveraged 430 million worth of debt to combat the Homeless Problem that is growing by the day. Its almost a shell game where we are focused on what the media, the headlights, oversimplification, and ignoring what really needs our attention. Greg i am stealing those stats when i do talk are later. Media keeping it at a doomsday level. Theyre going to fork out millions in the midterms with the hope to win both houses and impeach. Is that the realistic goal . Juan no. But i think realistically they have a shot at the house. Im struck by this conversation because to me, you say its the hollywood elite. Its the media. Its everybody but donald trump and i think if i am anxious, if the American People are anxious, and according to what i saw, they are more anxious. Apparently you can measure this. They are more anxious. What about Donald Trumps repeated lies . What about the idea that he stands next to putin like a submissive puppy and says i believe putin, not the americans. Wait a second. What side is this going on . I thought he was our president. Jesse i think people are more resilient on the right. During the administration, there are racial riots and domestic terror attacks, gas price spike spikes. There was a lot of uncertainty
and volatility. Conservatives didnt rush to see a shrink. They had a drink and went to work. Greg they created the tea party. Dana and there was isis. That was anxiety producing, you are worried about the future of the world. Part of this is celebrities and hollywood have said they are going to be more engaged now than ever. The president , yes, for President Trump, he does better if he has someone or something to work against. I think if hollywood really wanted to help the democrats, it would be better to sit back, write checks, and register new voters rather than giving him something to run against. Greg clooney said he wouldnt hang around obama because he didnt want to tarnish obama with the hollywood stench. Dana they just met Behind Closed Doors. Greg President Trump and his legal team launched a new wave of attacks against Robert Mueller and Michael Cohen. The war of words, thats next. Are you in good hands . With an interview with the special counsel. Rudy giuliani on tv today going after Robert Mueller and trumps former lawyer, Michael Cohen. Here are some of the highlights. My client didnt do it. Even if he did, its not a crime. Ives event over an hour. Collusion is not a crime. Theyre not going to have a sit down until they are not what they want to do. We will advise the president and he decides. He has always leaned in favor of doing it. Right now i am telling him no way. Interfering with the ability to govern. Its a horrible thing mueller is doing. You tell me a lawyer is taping his clients. I have to say he made a mistake. Hes unethical. Hes a scumbag. Hes a horrible person. Jesse rudy is off the leash today. Greg he has a dog in his jaws. Jesse whats the strategy . Greg it is a mess. The more you clean it, the messier it gets. His strategy as he sees a spill on carpet and dumps a wheelbarrow of soup on nights. Trump is from queens. Nothing goes down without a fight or name calling. This is not brentwood, bel air, or madison, wisconsin. These are new yorkers. You have giuliani, trump, and Michael Cohen one. The streets of new york and new jersey. We are watching an ongoing episode of the sopranos. Juan did you mean that as a complement . Greg i did. Im very skeptical of the attention being devoted to this. I cant take it seriously. When the ifs become ours, ill take it seriously. Right now its background noise. Juan giuliani said that
cohen is an honest guy i trust. Now he says, i dont want to repeat what he just said. But he thinks hes a lowlife. Jesse because he taped the president. Juan on a host of issues. He thinks the guy is a lowlife. He keeps changing his story. Greg, would you want rudy representing you . Greg this is how life works. Somebody is your lowlife until they are no longer your lowlife. Then they are just a lowlife. Hes a jerk. They say hes a jerk but hes my jerk. Thats how they look at lawyers. Sorry, emily. [laughter] you just looked at me. Juan take it easy. This is full combat. Mma of the debates. Jesse as a lawyer, what do you think . Is it a p. R. Game to discredit the Mueller Investigation by saying all these things are happening . He stacked the deck with a lot of democratic lawyers. Mueller has a conflict. Im not going to be treated
fairly so when the investigation comes to a conclusion, there is doubt in the air. Emily thats one argument for sure but theres been question as to come is there a strategy . Always thought today might be evidence its more reactionary even though its always trying to get in front of the new cycle and the statement to put out the narrative. Should he sit down with mueller or should he not. The strategy behind that would be to help frame the narrative. Obviously it has more potential for detriment. If i could throw in my two cents about cohen. People keeps repeating. His lawyers as he recorded the conversations because it replaced him taking notes. Because theres so many, almost 200, it speaks to that but you have a duty of fall a duty of confidentiality. You vile not to do harm to your
client with the confidence theyve given you. Privilege was waived by that tape and it was a smart move because the conversation doesnt continue about there must be something in that tape. There must be something recorded thats nefarious. It takes out the fight the government could have argued a it is privilege or b there is a crime fraud exception. I think it was wise but i also think purposeful or not strategy, mired in the details, its taking us away from the bigger picture. Juan giuliani says he wants all the tapes to be heard. He says it helps the president. I have to think as i am sitting here, people giuliana comes out and says yes, we paid off oh, the president do about it. Now we know that the president knew about karen mcdougal. Is he helping this president . Jesse it is less about the cohen thing and more about mueller. Now we believe the mueller thing, if we are to believe
rudy giuliani, it may conclude around september and the president doesnt want to talk to him. Dana thats not what they said. Rudy giuliani says he doesnt want his client to talk to him but the president has always maintained he wants to talk to him but his advisors are saying no. Rudy giuliani says hard pass. I feel like mueller might be i dont know if hes completely wrapping up but it feels to me like every time we get this ramped up rhetoric, something is coming. It might be another indictment that you might see soon. Im not going to say what i think might happen. Jesse now you have to say it. Dana are not going to say it. Cohen use to, lets say you would say you mind if i tape this . I wont tape it anymore. Pushed it off. He had another device that was recording you the entire time. If you want to be sympathetic towards somebody, even President Trump. If you dont like him. Its pretty underhanded. Its what you were saying, emily. For a lawyer to do that. Remember, why did the Southern District of new york go to his hotel room, knock on the door and say we need all the stuff. They headed to p was about to destroy evidence. I imagine the tapes were on the list. Greg I Dont Think Cohen was hired for his credibility. Everybodys got to have a fixer. Jesse thats right. Emily is a fixer. Up next, President Trump making a major threat against the democrats who dont want to build a wall. Wait until you hear this. Still a chance here. Its willingham, edge of the box, willingham shoots. Goooooooaaaaaaaallllllll that. Was. Magic. Willingham tucks it in and puts the championship to bed. Sweet dreams, nighty night. As long as Soccer Players celebrate with a slide, you can count on geico saving folks money. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on Car Insurance. Pressure, what pressure . The players on the. You wouldnt accept an incomplete job from any one else. Why accept it from your Allergy Pills . Flonase sensimist relieves all your worst symptoms, including nasal congestion, which most pills dont. And all from a gentle mist you can barely feel. Flonase sensimist. You can barely feel. I needthats whenvice foi remembered that my exex exboyfriend actually went to law school,
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concerned and personally if we dont get border security, after many, many years of talk within the United States, i would have no problem doing a shutdown. Juan some on the left not budging. Antitrump critic representative Maxine Waters launching this new attack on the president. This president is a bully, and he will try to intimidate all of us. He is not going to shutdown anything. As a matter fact, people will remember he said he was going to build this wall and he was going to make mexico pay for the wall. They said they werent going to pay for anything. Now he wants the american citizens to pay for this wall. Juan waters to watters. I thought mexico was going to pay for it. Jesse they still will. Be patient. It looks like its going to be built one step at a time. We had a deal for 25 billion in an exchange for legalizing dreamers. Then we have the swhole country comment, Shutdown Schumer situation. They didnt want Chain Migration and lottery. It fell apart. I dont think the centage is going to do this because it takes 60 votes. They can get it through the house but not the senate. A shutdown in the fall. There is a hand grenade in there. You have to confirm cavanaugh, run for reelection. I dont even think oconnell wants the wall. I dont think ryan wants his lasting swan song to be a Government Shutdown and then losing the house. I dont think its going to happen. But if the democrats take the house, they are not only not going to fund the wall, they are going to abolish i. C. E. Juan did you just say its not going to happen . Jesse i dont believe its going to happen at this point right now. But theyre going to have to fund it piecemeal. Juan emily, majority
leader Mitch Mcconnell says im not having a vote on this before the midterms. Ron johnson, head of homeland security, says its a bad idea. People in the house are saying we are republicans than we are not into this. What do you make of it . Emily i agree with jesse and personally i really dont like the threat of the Government Shutdown or using that as a tool. Were not getting much out of a lot people there anyway and secondly is a federal attorney, i was a managing attorney and acting director. The amount of resources it takes to prepare for a furlough and execute on it. Its inordinate. To me, its a tremendous hemorrhage of those resources and the sub importer issue, we cannot overstate or underestimate the power of the corruption in mexico and the Central American countries and the transnational drug cartels. Almost 150 politicians have been murdered in mexico ramping up to their election and five since the election this month. If we could have a little bit more dialogue i think from those borders, the district along the borders by those reps, Though Southern Border Senators and have a more engaging conversation in detail, we can get out of the hyperbole, especially coming up to the midterms. If we could have a collective, Cohesive Strategy with the facts at hand. It would be way more fruitful than volleying back and forth. Juan dana, tell us about the politics. Sounds like republicans and the politics are not good. Dana they are not sure. Democrats touched the hot stove and said never mind and there were those embarrassing headlines, and the liberal base was mad, saying why arent you going to fight . They dont have anything to fight with. The shutdown was a terrible idea and President Trump absolutely won on that and he was able to ride it for about eight weeks
afterwards. But this is different. He is he is going to shut down the government, could it turn out better . He knows the economy is good. It is not what is driving voters to the pool. He needs to turn on his base. Will they show up . I dont think the members of Congress Actually believe him. They are like, he is just threatening. He wont do it. But i think the president should do if he can is sent to the congress exactly what he would veto. So they know what they are dealing with so they can try to get it done. Avoid a Government Shutdown. He might be just spoiling for a fight. May be. Juan Mitch Mcconnell<