Biggest threat trump has ever faced or someone named trump or married to a trump. Howie a Washington Post report that don, jr. Was behind the meeting. Hes clearly focused on covering for his son. It certainly tells bob mueller this guy is into a coverup. Washington post reporting the president was personally involved in his sons reaction to the meeting. Why should anyone believe him on the big stuff, the things that do matter. If i have a have a president who lies about the boy scouts or to destroy isis, ill take the liar. Howie we hear part of Anthony Scaramuccis call to a reporter. Jim acosta lectures a Top White House official over a new policy on ilLegal Immigration. It looks like you are trying to evening near the racial and ethnic flow of people into this country. Thats one of the most of outrageous, insulting, foolish, and ignorant things you have ever said. Howie im howrt kurtz and this im howard kurtz and this is mediabuzz. It was four weeks ago the New York Times disclosed donald jr. Held a meeting to obtain negative research on hillary clinton. But the initial statement said it was primarily about adoption. The Washington Post revised that story saying the first story had been dictated by the president. The statement don, jr. Issued is true. The president weighed in as any father would based on the limited information he had. Howie the media decibel level soared even higher after learning Robert Mueller has convened a grand jury. Joining us, ellison barber, Mollie Hemingway and joe trippi. Massive coverage of this wall street journal story which is a leak. Is it such a dramatic story to play out on cnn and nbc and fox . Ellison when i look at it, i see most of stories sitting in one of two categories. Stories they need to know and stories they want to know. A lot of them are legal questions because a special counsel exists. But when it comes to the issue of is it too much, if you dont like it, change the channel, or send an email. If its overplayed viewers readers have a lot of power in dictating and letting us know maybe we are going too far. Howie i have the take that prosecutors routinely bring in grand juries to bring in evidence and listen to witnesses. But the Mainstream Media suggests thats not the view in the dress. Mollie it is a big story related to russia. One of the interesting leaks is mueller is investigating things that have nothing to do with russia or the 2016 elections. Are you covering it with enough september civil about what we know how special prosecutors run far afield from their original direction and is that a good thing. They treat mueller like hes beyond reproach. And we have to remember how he botched the anthrax investigation when he was head of the fbi. I understand everybody dislikes trump and they decided hes guilty and they are waiting to find out the details, but a good journalist should be interested in the process. Howie does it have a big psychological impact on the coverage . Joe of course it has. But the other thing is obvious. Mueller is going to impanel a grand jury. That was going to happen. Can we manage if he after a year of counterintelligence investigation came back and said there is not going to be a grand jury, we are moving on to other things and shutting down the office . Mollie if you dont find something out when you are charged to investigate, you should be shutting down. From what we hear they are going far afield. Noise geographic limit or associate limit to what can be investigated. Howie he hasnt been on the job that long so it would take time to shut thing down. You spent time in that White House Briefing room. Are reporters starting to question whether the president might be lying or is lying . Ellison probably. There have been a ton of thing he said. People are saying more journalists need to use the word lie. And getting down to specific word we use. When it comes to the lie and whether things are lies. For me as a reporter now particularly with the Political Climate we are in i find myself going back to dictionaries more than i would have expected triple checking myself to make sure this is the word i want to use. Its important to see you a lie is a lie and ask a question about it. Howie with flynn, he was fired because he lied to the vice president. Then the president says, fires comey and asks comey allegedly to go soft on the one let go. Howie the president s lawyer who initially said the president had nothing to do with that statement. Now the white house says he weighed in to some degree. Did the lawyer know the different story the president had weighed in or dictated or did donald trump not tell him . We dont know that. Mollie what is frustrating about Media Coverage about this, we are told the president lied about something, then you get the details, or there was a false statement sent out by don, jr. No one is alleging there was anything false by the, its more misleading. If they tempered the expectations by not being so dramatic. Howie most of of the media are campaigning to undermine and discredit this president . Mollie there is no confusion about that. Howie there was an extraordinary leak to the post of President Trumps phone calls to the leaders of mexico and australia. They are saying he lied when he said his call with the australian Prime Minister was testy. Ellison i think to your point its something thats out there. The only thing i look at and worry about as a journalist who is blamed or criticized for that leak being out there. Howie we were used to leaks at high levels of the administration. If the president cant talk to foreign leaders without somebody he works for leak it, that seems concerning. Ellison a number of National Security experts said it is. The National Sportsperson under barack obama said i would have lost my mind if this had happened over transcripts of Barack Obamas calls. As a journalist thats not my concern. But the Supreme Court said you go back to 1971 with the pentagon papers, a leak is not necessarily problematic on the journalists side. Joe other members of the administration said this is a bad thing to have and the president should have that ability to talk to foreign leaders. Are you going after the journalists or the leakers. Howie on this question of journalists challenging actions by the president , there is a statement the president said in various places he got positive calls. Why did the president say he received a phone call from the leader of the boy scouts and world leaders. No i wouldnt say it was a lie. The conversations took place. Howie now was it a phone call or personal conversation. Mollie the problem is trump had a phone call when instead he had an inperson conversation. He said the leader of the boy scouts called him and it was various leaders of the boy scouts. Hes imprecise with these things and it can cause problems. The whole probably with media credibility is how they dont treat misstatements evenly. Donald trump saying he talked on the phone instead of meeting in person it didnt cause people to lose their health insurance. But when barack obama said you can keep your insurance and lost it, the media didnt treat that as a lie. If they applied the same scrutiny to other people as obama howie the president often speak imprecisely. This supporters like that and they view a lot of this as journalistic knick picking. Nitpicking. It was the leader of the boy scout who said we did not have a phone call with the president. Howie mediabuzz foxnews. Com. foxnews. Com. 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Mollie when we first heard the story it sounded like scaramucci was on a cocainefilled rant. But when you listen to that, its relatively calm. During the primary he said jeb bush mocked the notion of mock shootings and in fact jeb bush was saying about human nature and the government cant solve everything about the human condition. If you have a reporter who does that, you should be more careful talking to him. Howie the black and white word versus the audio the new yorker released. When you listen to this it sound less like an unhinged rant than the words suggest in the transcript. Joe it does, but its terrifying to people like me. Thats the most of dangerous thing you can do with a reporter, get into a banter with them, friendly banter is going back and forth, thats when you relax. Howie you said i probably have done this and reporters could have sabotage me and they did not. Joe thats how dangerous it is. Every time you talk to reporters you realized you are on the record unless you have said you are not. Lizza is great at getting into a kind of banter with them and it does look different on paper. Howie have you had considerations like this with sources, maybe not as xrated. Where they are expecting you not to report it . Ellison if im having a conversation and there is a question whether its on the record. You need to make sure i have agreed and both parties have agreed to it being off the record. Most of people in his position or you knew at the time that you have to make that deal to start. In terms of have i gotten phone calls like this . I covered crimes in my last job. Senior Law Enforcement officials will call me frustrated with a story or something of that nature. Never have i had them ask me who my source was or jokingly say if you dont tell me, im going to fire everyone. Howie scaramucci comes into the white house and says i am going to fire the leakers. And now there are even stories about how hes dumping on everyone and stories about a divorce hes going through. Mollie the National Security leaks and the type of petty white house drama leaks that are routine for many administration, though this administration seems to be full of nothing but leakers. But he didnt succeed in his goal. Joe if you come after people they will come after you. Howie welcome to the nfl. Joe trippi, ellison barber, Mollie Hemingway. Thank you. A lawsuit involving the murder of a young dnc staffer. Sarah is a fifthgrade teacher. When it comes to molding young minds, nobody does it better. She also builds her own fighting robots. Destroy. But when it comes to mortgages, shes less confident. Fortunately for sarah, theres Rocket Mortgage by quicken loans. Its simple, so she can understand the details and be sure shes getting the right mortgage. Apply simply. Understand fully. Mortgage confidently. This is lloyd. 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The lawsuit also names a wealthy supporter of president with him to steer attention away from the russian hacking of the dnc emails, but less than a week later, wheeler told our web site i am of the personal opinion that the information article reported last tuesday was essentially correct and worthy of further investigation. Jay wallace, fox president of news, said in a statement the accusation that foxnews. Com published malia zimmermans story to help detract from coverage of the russia collusion issue is completely erroneous. The retraction is still being investigated internally, and we have no evidence that rod wheeler was misquoted by zimmerman. Additionally, fox news vehemently denies the race discrimination claims in the lawsuit. The dispute has nothing to do with race. The story was first reported by npr. Wheeler was hired to investigate seth richs death, quote the president just read the article, he wants the article out immediately. But he now says he was only joking, and he challenges wasnt serious because rod wheeler was always looking for a job because he has no money, and by the way, this lawsuit is all about rod wheeler trying to get money because he messed up. By the way, ive never talked to President Trump in my life, and trump has need to do with this. The white house spokesman told me yesterday that butowsky had asked for ten minutes to catch up, didnt ask him to do anything, and spicer took no action. It doesnt bother me that the press secretary would take a meeting with somebody involved in the media about a story. None of that was disclosed. They had a conversation, and that was the end of it. The president didnt have knowledge of this story, the white house didnt have any involvement in the story. Wheeler says he asked fox to remove the quotes such as him saying he had found email exchanges between rich and wikileaks but this was not done. That didnt stop wheeler from promoting the story on fox news. 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