For the rest of the week a really good lineup. Again, thanks for watching us tonight. I am bill oreilly. We hope you have a great weekend. And please remember the spin stops right here, because we are definitely looking out for you. Breaking tonight. Republican frontrunner donald trump going after political elites his opponents, and the entire election system in a way we have not seen before. Welcome to the kelly file, everyone. Im megyn kelly. Donald trump trading the podium for the pen, writing a blistering piece in the wall street journal, that has gotten a lot of headlines, including asking the following let me ask america a question how has the system been working out for you and your family . Gop calling for reform of the nomination process. Trump coming out swinging now in a way that some say could
enlarge his support beyond his core base. And tonight, the rnc is responding. Releasing this memo stating the rules surrounding the delegate Selection Process have been clearly laid out. Each process is easy to understand for those willing to learn it. Chris stirewalt joins us. Chris, good to see you. What essentially is donald trump doing with this piece . So its one thing to say that you think the system needs to be reformed because remember hes a populist. And like populist progressives they want more direct democracy. Bernie sanders and donald trump agree. So thats one thing, reform the system and make it work better. That means in the future because were almost already done with this one, thats different than what he was doing before. Because what he was doing before is saying ted cruz is winning by cheating. Its cheating cheating, cheating can. What he realized, i think, or his campaign realized now that
there is starting to be Something Like a Campaign Around him like Paul Manafort he knows what hes doing. Exactly. He can probably figure out the colorado delegate apportionment process. But what trump is doing, its going legit, saying im going to make a substantive argument about larger issues and talk about this, not just say that i hate ted cruz and hes a cheater, cheater, and he still is talking about the system being rigged. Hes not a fan of ted cruz, we know this. Nor vice versa. But it seems interesting, because everybody is looking at trump to see whether he will do the pivot and try to enlarge support. His theory about the 5th avenue he can kill he said shoot just maim them. The shooting said they wouldnt leave him and hes been proven right. That was all a joke but he meant my supporters are loyal to him and theyre not going to leave him if he wishes out in a way they wouldnt have liked six moments ago but could be acceptable to them now. Is that what hes doing . I think hes tried before and success. But what he understands now is that he needs the republican establishment in order to get this done. Most likely scenario playing out right now is he gets to the convention in cleveland, just short. 100 short lets say or 150 short. If he comes in short, you know what hes going to need . Unbound delegates to come and give him their support, because we talked about if he cant win on the first ballot its going to be very hard for him to win. Trump is out there saying i think im going to get there to 1237 by the convention. I know that they all say even
ted cruz is saying hes not going to do it but donald trump is the one who has a shot. My question to you is is there a way thats not absurd that trump could do it . Ted cruz would have to win everything entirely from this point forward, which hes not going to do. Is there a way thats not absurd for trump to do snit its substantially less absurd. You run up the score in new York District levels across the state, you take a bunch of delegates there. And for trump, it comes down to shoot the moon in california. And theres no state that has responded better where variety voters have responded better to his rhe on immigration than in california. And go to california and just crush it. There are so many delegates in california that its conceivable, and its not absurd that he could do it. However, you know what weve seen from ted cruz . People vote for him, and hes become better as a candidate. He has improved to some degree. And republicans seem to be more accepting of cruz than they were at the beginning. So i think the shape of the race is here. John kasich is strictly absurd 138 hell have to reinvent the pathagareum theory to win. Fascinating. Great to see you, sir. You bet. For more reaction we put together a little panel for you. Maybe you saw a little bit of it last night. New york Republican Voters who will vote in four days and asked them what they think of mr. Trumps criticism of the nominating process. Watch this. Raise your hand if you think trump has a point that the system is rigged. Interesting. Even some nonTrump Supporters believe that. In the back why do you think that . I think its an example that
came out yesterday, john kasichs wife made a statement, keep supporting john kasich so we can continue to deny the nomination to trump. To me thats pretty telling. But thats strategy. Theyre arguing about whether the system as created, is rigged to deny like a nonparty endorsed person which is trumps claim. Not that its rigged its way too complicated and problematic. Doesnt everyone agree on that . Thats not a point of contention. That happens in the republican and democratic side. Theres no rigging, its just an issue of the system itself. Go ahead. In some of these states been a direct effort to take the vote of the voters in the primary, donald trump is one, and theyve gone around and tried to pick delegates who dont agree with the voters of their own state. So they can be freed up on the second vote if they get to a second vote . Absolutely. You have a whole situation here where donald trump and all the candidates knew what the rules of the Colorado Convention could be. Donald trump chose not to put a ground game in. Whether or not he was competent, ill let the voters decide. But hes trying to tweet his way to the presidency. Its not too complicated for cruz to figure out. He has a good ground game trump just hired a state director in california and trump is hes losing one state after another. When is he going to catch on . What is it about trump that theyre so afraid of . The way i feel just like this young lady said cruz is smart enough to figure it out. Its about the delegates. Trump is always saying hes going to surround himself with the best and brightest. Where were the best and brightest telling him you have to talk with the delegates and
win them . And two of his children didnt even know to change their registration so they could vote for their father in the primary. It shouldnt have to do anything with the delegates. This should be about the voter, voting for who they want to be the nominee. Right now, if you look at it now, who is gaining, trump, Bernie Sanders. The voters do not want a politician. We want an outsider. Overwhelmingly the country wants an outsider. Ive seen this in my own town. Im not going to use the word rigged. Its the way the system is designed it benefits the incumbents and the party bosses. I see it on the national level. I see it in my own town where i live they have a caucus. If somebody wants to get in we have 7,000 registered republicans in my town. 200 people show up to the caucus. Heres my question. Theyre not going to change the rules midway through. But the question is whether this is going to motivate Trump Supporters like nothing else. Theyre going to come out in
droves now in the remaining elections, because theyre more motivated ever to make their voices heard. Go ahead. The only thing that donald trump is doing is dividing america, dividing the minority groups dividing the latinos, dividing the africanamericans. Thats the only thing donald trump is doing. Look what happened today in long island. Look what happened today here in new york city. So hes not winning the minority votes. Hes never going to be a president of the United States no way hes going to become president. In the middle of the middle. You. Oh. How is he able to emass all of these millions and millions of votes if hes a divider . I would think hes a uniter. [ all speaking at once ] were talking about the caucus that is really the close toast the people. Every person in colorado that was republican was invited to go to the caucus. Donald trump, its all his own fault. He refused. He scheduled to go and didnt even step his toe in colorado. What about that . He did not go to that caucus and ted cruz did. They voted for delegates who were not bound. I mean thats like you give your chirp a vote what do you want to eat this food or that food they tell you and you say no, you cant have it. This is a forum to set up how we vote. This is the actual vote. When he doesnt win, then the forum is all wrong. I can see that youre a ted cruz supporter. When you have a baseball game whatever and both teams agree to follow the rules and one loses, it cant say oh its not fair. They both have the same rules. Feisty panel. More with them later. Up next the rnc chairman will speak about the candidates the
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all. Millions of people. Theyre very very angry and theyre disenfranchised. Then we have a rigged system on top of it. But despite the rigging, i think we get there before the convention. I think we do. That was donald trump just a few hours ago at a rally in Hartford Connecticut as his fight with the rnc carries on. A new fox poll shows hes widened his lead nationally standing at 45 , 18 points ahead of his closest competitor. Ted cruz has lost support and hn kasich is also picking up momentum. Still, the question remains will anyone actually clinch the nomination before the july convention . Earlier i spoke with Republican NationalCommittee ChairmanReince Priebus about the possibility of a contested contention. Everybody is looking forward to this july convention wondering what is going to happen. I understand on the first vote if trump doesnt get 1237, many of the delegates become unbound. Then they move on to the third
vote anything can happen they can go to somebody outside the three men who are now running. Is that how would that happen . I know thats not the likeliest scenario but if they did decide okay cruz and kasich cant, trump cant, who would decide who the other potential candidate is . The delegates on the floor would. I think its highly unlikely megyn, but if playing out your hypothetical if we go through 25 ballots and no one can get to the majority then the body would decide you know who the potential nominee would be. People just start throwing out names and if they get what like a majority of the delegates to say yeah lets get that person in . How does it work . Whoever can get the majority of votes of the delegates on the floor is going to be the nominee of the party. I think that hypothetical is
highly unlikely but whatever the majority on the floor decides is who the nominee is going to be. So some buzz could get going among the delegates, and they could say general mattis or whatever it is. Between june 7 and when california votes in july the end of july when the convention happens, these candidates are allowed to woo the delegates, they can wine them dine them they cant give them cash but they can do a bunch of other stuff. So what do you think we should expect to see if no one has a clear majority as of june 7, what do you think trump is going to do with these delegates and what do you anticipate cruz will do with them . I have no idea megyn. Heres the thing for everyone to understand. No one has been through this before. There are no experts at this process. The last time we had a multiballot convention was in 1940. I know were filling a lot of space on television but no one really knows what to expect. Thats got to be
disconcerting for well listen it is because you always have to back down a lot of narratives. We spend a lot of time on hypotheticals that i dont think are going to be reality. I do think that the people running have the advantage. I think this sort of hypothetical of some 25th ballot thing happening is very unlikely. But we have to be ready for anything and this is something thats new for our party and we dont know whether ted cruz or donald trump can actually get to the majority before the convention, which would put all of this to rest. But we will be prepared as a party and thats my job is to be prepared and to help people understand the process you may need to have some eastern medicine introduced into your life between you and jowl. Just a thought. Take it or reject it at your leisure. You bet. Thanks mr. Chairman. Great to see you. You bet. Thank you. My next guest has pledged to
support donald trump at the convention at least on the first ballot. Rona romney mcdaniels is chairman of the Michigan Republican party. And yes, she is a member of that romney family. Thank you for being here. So your uncle is not going to like this. Does he know youre going vote for donald trump . I left that up to my dad to tell my uncle. That was not a phone call i wanted to make. Im pretty sure im out of the will at this point. Youre doing this as a delegate in michigan right . Im actually the chair of the Michigan Republican party, and i recognize that on march 8, the people of michigan came out in record numbers, we has 1. 3 million republicans come out in our election. It was wonderful. We want those voters engaged in the process. As an rnc delegate i chose to bind myself to the majority of the vote. Ly be a trump delegate in cleveland. What about on the second
ballot thats the big question with the trump delegates, will they stick by him on the second ballot if we get there . Thats a great question. I think as chair, its incumbent on me to show the voters i am willing to represent them in cleveland. So my intention is to stay with the voters of michigan to show them that the Michigan Republican party is not disenfranchising their vote. Well see what happens in cleveland. Were not there yet, thank goodness. So you think trump has a point when he says what about all those people who went and voted . Hes used that word that they wo disenfranchised if the delegates abandoned their order, if you will on the second ballot even though the rules allow it at that point. Im in a little different role as chair of the party. I have to unify everybody. If they feel like im playing games, its hard for them to trust me. There are two parts of this election, which is the candidates. They know if rules. Theyve been in place since october of 2015. But the voters dont know the rules. This is a whole new process to them. Its getting more attention than its ever received. So in michigan we have worked very hard to be transparent, to explain to them the process, because we need them to trust us. So theyll go vote for our candidate in november. Do you like donald trump . Do you personally support his candidacy or are you not taking a position on that . I support any of our candidates about Hillary Clinton. Im going to be supporting our nominee going into november. So youre in michigan. This is a state which kasich and trump kind of cut a deal. I dont want to get into the weeds because its tough to understand. When it came to the delegate allegation they cut a deal and he got kicked off. They all were saying it was a vp play by john kasich. Did you wonder whether they had a coalition, trump and kasich . It was more about personal
relationships after our convention. We did have a meeting of delegates to select who was serve on the rules committee and the Platform Committee in cleveland. You only have two spots for each of those committees. So im not surprised that two of the campaigns cut a deal. And i think more of that was based on personal relationships between the delegates representing each of those candidates. Enjoy the skiin