Transcripts For FOXNEWSW The Kelly File 20161213 : vimarsana

Transcripts For FOXNEWSW The Kelly File 20161213

Those demanding. The bipartisans letter raises grave in moments well be joined by representatives of both campaigning. But we begin with Trace Gallagher reporting our from our west coast newsroom. Hi, shon non. The ten members of the Electoral College say its not their duty to rubber stamp the results but to instead investigate, discuss and dlib ra rate. They sent a letter to James Clapper asking to be given an intel briefing before they cast their votes on december 19th, writing, quote, the elector is required to know from the Intelligence Community whether there are ongoing investigations between ties to donald trump, his campaign or associates and russian government interference in the election. The e lecters come on to say the information will help them decide whether mr. Trump is fit to serve as president. The Clinton Campaign is backing this decision, despite repaid edly saying theyre september the results. John podesta calls the group bipartisan but he should be noted that one of the ten members is a republican and she has long been a republican. This letter comes on the heels of this weekends two democratic congressmen who suggest the Electoral College should consider blocking trumps election. Watch. What finally pushed me over the edge was when the president elect of the United States criticized the cia and the Intelligence Community. Can you imagine what the leaders in beijing and moscow and tehran are watching as the next president criticize his Intelligence Community and stand up for the defense of russia . And while the u. S. Government largely believes that russia did interfere with the campaign, there is disagreement over the motive. The cia believes it was to help trump. The fbi believes it was to undermine the u. S. Political system. Of course there is zero evidence the voting process it was in any way disruptive. Thank you very much. Joining us now, karen finney serving as the Clinton Campaign senior spokesperson. Thanks for joining us tonight. Let me ask you about these questions that the electors may have been nine come from states where Hillary Clinton won. Is this much ado about nothing . What is the point . Lets take a step back here. My goodness. Remember the days when the party of Ronald Reagan was talking to very possibly to Mikhail Gorbachev to tear down the wall. Now were talking about russian interference hacking want broad agreement between the intelligence agencies that this was some mall fmaam fee sense. There was some conversation about whether or not what the ultimate motive was. But doesnt that make a difference . Because what were hearing is from unnamed sources so no name assigned to it. Theyre talking about the cia saying the ultimate goal was to help donald trump. The fbi not going there. Two top agencies and they dont agree. Were talking about a broad agreement between 17 intelligence agencies. Russia was involved but also but shannon and that goes to motive. Let me finish one sentence. You know, that also goes to the point that mr. Podesta was making and others have which is why in addition to the letters, the e lecters are asking for a briefing. The information should be made public to the american people. We need to know if the russians are trying to infiltrate our government in these any fair rouse w nefarious ways. Our brave men and women fight to get us this kind of information and to uncove these kinds of things. I think their next commander in chief, mr. Trump, owes it to them to not dismiss them out of hand but to listen to the information. And i think again if the electors are suggesting that part of their constitutional duty, they want to hear a briefing, information so that they themselves feel confident but these were people who werent going to vote for trump any way except for one. You have nine who come from states where Hillary Clinton won so what difference does it make to those nine . Are you seriously suggesting, more importantly, are you suggesting that its not disconcerting not at all. Its not goings to change their vote. Im not saying its not disconcerting at all. In fact donald trump and a number of top gop senators have said theyll investigate. We have bob corker, we have graham, mccain others saying this is not okay with us and we want to make sure we get to the truth. And the fact that its been so bipartisan is incredibly powerful. Heres the point about the electors. Its not about who they would or would not have voted for. It is about something much greater. And i pray if anything comes out of this in the election, its that we as americans come back and remember this is part of the foundational core of our democracy. Its nobt n its not about who is going to vote for whom. Its or constitutional duty to know the answer to these questions. Alexander hamilton, this is one of his intents of creating the electors in the first place. I see them as trying to do their job. I dont think there is an assumption that this would change the nature of the outcome of the election. And in fact theres an opportunity here for many to actually take bold steps to stand up to russia and right these wrongs and make sure they dont interfere in our government in our country in any way further. I think we can all agree its good that theres bipartisan fervor were trying to get answers. That we can agree on. Than thank you for joining us. Also tonight, Katrina Pearson serve as Trump Campaign national spokespers spokesperson. What do you make of these concerns, every american, people on both sides of the aisle are saying should be concerned about any Foreign Government that would want to influence our National President ial election in any way. We should be concerned about that if that were the case. What we see now, so much for accepting the Election Results. This is the worst case of denial that ive ever seen. The working class voters rejected the Democrat Party this cycle. Theyve blamed everyone. Every week its a new blame, first jam comey, then racism, massage nichl, then the need ya for the coverage of the candidates and now russia infiltration of the election process. The white house came out today and say that was not the case. They cannot accept the fact that they had a flawed candidate that have a flawed message and could not kaekt with the voters. Did willed mere putin call cnn and ask them to help Hillary Clinton cheat . There were 17 intelligence agencies that went public saying russia has interfered. We know its hackers friendly to a government and maybe thats what happened here. But those intelligence agencies came forward and said there is no doubt to the fact that russia is getting involved in hacking. They released information that was detrimental to the dnc, it wasnt good for one side of the ticket much more than it wasnt good for the other side of the ticket. Well, of course. I mean theres hacking going on all of the time. They would have had to interfere with the election process itself. Thats the accusation thats being made here and thats what the us what came out and said that did not happen. We have a situation where a party lost handedly and they cannot cope with it. Perhaps this is a just a distraction of a motion that was filed last week by Judicial Watch wanting to unseal the video depositions of Hillary Clintons top staffer irs in the investigation of her emails. There is nothing going on with the election process. The white house came out today and said it. The president ordered that he wants a full review of russian hacking back to the 2008 election. We wants it all done before he leaves office on january 20th. So clearly he thinks theres an issue and there with a number of people on both sides of the aisle who have expressed grave concerns and come to the conclusion that russia did have some undue influence on not necessarily hacking into Voting Machines and changes votes but changing Voters Perceptions about the two candidates and thats significance in a tight race. In 2008 and 2009 that was china. But we absolutely should know cyber warfare because it is a problem and we dont want those types of things to be influencing the election. Some of these hacks, they dont know where they came from. There is discrepancies among the intelligence agencies about who did what and when. There is no evidence or maybe there is evidence. We dont know. What they said about those 17 agencies joining together. Absolutely. The letter that was sent to clapper today is saying you need to tell us whats going on here because there are discrepancies among the intelligence communities about what actually happened. At the end of the day. Information is good things. Absolutely. But at the end of the day the election process itself was not interfered with with and the white house came out today and said that. We got to leave it there. Thank you. When then scanned date trump worried about the election being rigged, the media lost itself mind. Up exhow the media is reacting to the comments about rigging from the democrats. And then governor huckabee and then governor huckabee and Austan Goolsbee you totanobodys hurt, new car. But there will still be pain. It comes when your Insurance Company says theyll only pay threequarters of what it takes to replace it. What are you supposed to do . Drive threequarters of a car . Now if you had Liberty Mutual new car replacement™, youd get your whole car back. I guess they dont want you driving around on three wheels. Smart. With Liberty Mutual new car replacement™, well replace the full value of your car. Liberty stands with you™. 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You know, every time donald thinks things are not going in his direction, he claims whatever it is rigged against him. Weve been around for 240 years. Weve hads free and fair elections. Weve accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them. He is denigrating, hes talking down our democracy and i for one am appalled that somebody who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind of position. That was secretary clinton not even eight weeks ago slamming president elect trump for daring to suggest that the Election Results might be up for debate. But mrs. Clinton was far from alone. The larger media never missed beat when it kams to denouncing president elect trump for declaring the election may be rigged. Donald trump had forfeited any right to serve as the american president because hes violated one of the basic tenants of our democracy. Its dangerous in the future in some ways for our country. People are really feeling that the election is going to be rigged. The real danger here is when trump lies to his supporters about the others trying to steal the election, some of his supporters believe him. Mr. Trump, think of your children. America is great partly because everyone accepts the results of elections. For decades in the past and hopefully for decades to come. Inventing a Conspiracy Theory is no way to make America Great again. Now that november th has come and gone, with results some in the media outright despise, weve noticed that outlets like the the New York Times has done a complete 180 on the rigging claim. Back in october the times wrote Top Republicans must reject the notion that a National Election can be rigged. But now singing a different rig, proclaiming, failing to resolve the questions about russia would feed suspension among the millions of american. The election was indeed rigged. Here to break this down, media buzz host howie kurtz. Good to see you tonight. Hi, shannon. Tell us a little about this. Where are we going with this. You read the papers. We all read them eight weeks ago. Now a different tune today. The media went haywire when trump used to talk about a rigged election because the feeling was his was setting up an alibi for himself after Hillary Clinton would inevitably win the race. Now as you quoted, the the New York Times and other outlets saying there could be a rigged election here. The times saying theres a darkening cloud other trumps presidency and a liberal times columnist just today says the election is tainted because of the hackers and in part because hillary won the popular vote. Except the Electoral College thing is in the contusion. Weve all read it. We know thats actually a fact. But you know, is there any explanation or any self reflection by any of these Media Outlets do you think who are flipfl flipflopping . Do they have copies of what they wrote a few weeks ago . Self reflection is not a great quality in the mainstream media, otherwise we would see a lot more hand wringing about the way the election was covered. The fact they were leaked anonymously to the Washington Post makes it hard to discern whats real. But now that we have john podesta asking for the electors asking to get a special briefing, the more the media play this up, the more they will be embracing kind of a fling theory that really could end up stealing the election from the guy who won 306 electoral votes. But i thought the fringe was suggesting something crazy like a National Election could be rigged. Look, everyone knows that even if it turns out to be true, and i think there should be an investigation, that Russian Hackers were trying to undermine the election, the idea that this flip the election, what really turned the election was michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania where Hillary Clinton barely campaigned in two of those states and where donald trump made the connection with White Working Class voters who rejected the democratic nominee, thats what turned the election. So now to try to say if only i had not been for vladimir putin, Hillary Clinton would have won strikes me as sour graups. But this is going to get quite a ride in the media before the electors vote. Here now with more, fox news contributor, governor Mike Huckabee and former chief economist to president obama, Austan Goolsbee. Austan, i want to start with you. What do you make of this. One of the things that donald trump said in response this weekend was there have been a litany of excuses. This is the latest one and what it came down to was the polling showed people didnt trust her, they didnt like her or connect with her. The votes are there. Were not talking about the russians hacking into machines and changing votes, right . I think thats right. And im not advocating that they go down and say lets try to reverse the Electoral College vote. I think that would be weird. I think you would have justifiable howls from the republican side about doing that. But i think the way you have portrayed it, that this is a flipflop by the media, i think, is very misleading. Because the thing that donald trump was condemned for rightfully by people in both parties was for alleging that the vote was rigged if he lost with no evidence ahead of time. Thats totally different than if there actually is evidence of foreign influence, we should investigate it. Thats not the same thing at all. What he got pushback for during the debate when he said we accept the results of the election, he said, were going to wait and see what happens. He wasnt talking about anything being rigged. Thats when we saw mrs. Clinton go on not the case. Saying you have to accept the results when you dont like them. She talked about how denigrating it is to the system. To suggest that it is rigged with no evidence before the outcome then to literally say if i do not win then it is rigged by my opponent, this is outrageous. This is totally different. Theres actual evidence from the cia that the republican leader of the senate and the republican leader of the house say needs to be investigated. Thats a totally different situation. Governor huckabee, i want to bring you many here. What were getting are leaks from an unnamed source saying that yes, everybody agrees that there was some untoward action by russian actors potentially linked to the russian government. But to make the leap that they changed the Election Results is a big one. Thats beyond any belief. You have to believe in unicorn to go there. The fact is there were allegations that the russians may have h

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