President trump convincing the country its corruption in the politics that the new ukraine dealer look into the bidens. Everything to me is about corruption. We want to find out what happened with 2016 and did you know theres a lot of work going on about that . But i dont care about bidens campaign. But i do care about corruption. Martha that is the message of the day coming from the white house and from the trump campaign. Just remember, the key parts, one key part of the trumpzelensky phone call in which President Trump said, biden went around bragging that he thought the prosecution so look into it, it sounds horrible to me, he said. And president zelensky said, the next prosecutor will be 100 my person. He or she will look into the situation specifically to the company that you mentioned in this issue. And then today, we have a new prosecutor in ukraine. Announced hell be doing doing exactly just that. He will reopen the burisma case and several other cases that have been dismissed when joe biden successfully got the previous prosecutor fired. Here now we are viewing all the cases that were closed or split into several parts that were investigated before. In order to be able to rule, to reverse those cases were illegal procedural steps were taken. Martha the new prosecutor said hes doing all of this absolutely on his own. Not a single foreign, ukrainian official or politician has called me or influence my decision regarding specific criminal cases. Martha that should be big news. Rudy giuliani also sang tonight that this was not about 2020 but about a corrupt biden legacy he says he was looking into long before joe biden decided to run. Sat down with me earlier to try to convince everyone that this is all about corruption and not about 2020 politics. You listen and decide. Whats your reaction to the fact that this new prosecutor has been put in place to reopen this case including burisma. Thank god. The fact is this case was closed in october of 2016 right before the president ial election by pressure from joe biden, a bribe. If they reopen it and they do a thorough investigation that might lead to the president of ukraine who may have been paid to do this. The reality is that this has to be investigated. What democrats have been doing for two and a half, three years is covering it up. A lot of what they are doing with this impeachment thing is to cover up biden. A couple of steps. Biden gets the prosecutor shokin fired. A new prosecutor comes in and does three corrupt things. He dismisses the case, he dismisses the biden case a couple of months later, he dismisses the burisma case. The only thing i knew that biden knew that he was going to dismiss the burisma case but had an effect of dismissing the other case as well. Frankly, i dont think biden knew it, but i cant exploit it, it hasnt been investigated. But because he did it may be on purpose, may be inadvertently, he cut off all kinds of evidence that wouldve explained the steele. Ca and made it probably impossible to ever have mueller because it started to be revealed in 2016 and you wouldve seen some of the false attributed to russia remember, steele was never in russia. These people told me how stupid are you people . Martha we heard from kurt voelker, he spent a lot of time, he said that joe biden never did anything wrong. He wouldnt know that. Im telling you what he said. He said he believed you were being spun in the ukraine and leading you to believe that there were things going on that one is going on and thats what ended up being put in this document that we just saw that hold up, i let you talk. Im going to ask you this he can respond to it. He also he was concerned that some of what you were pursuing was going to make it look like ukraine was not only involved in 2016, which i think everybody understands the desire to look into 2016, but that he didnt want it to appear in any way if they started to look into biden again that ukraine also was trying to get involved in 2020. He was very concerned that there might be that complement and it would really reflect badly on this new government. Kurt never said that to me the one its all in this transcript. I dont know whats in the transcript. He never said it to me. Kurt, all due respect, a great diplomat. He doesnt know anything about investigating. Doesnt know anything about crime. Kurt never investigated it. Martha hes a diplomat, thats what he does. You know the first thing i asked him, show me the investigation. They havent investigated. They have taken the word of people who have an interest of covering it up and they are not investigating it. I asked only one thing from them. I do not ask for a result, i asked for investigation. For three years, these very dramatic allegations of corruption of not been investigated and i beg to differ about biden being 2020. Biden did what he did from 20142016. He did it as Vice President of the United States. Lets just say its true, one of the major sellouts by a Vice President in the history of our country. How can the president of the United States not want that investigated . Remember, this all started and a desire to have investigated going back to november of 2018. It ended might mitigation ended in march of 2018. Go look at the documents. I investigated this for the sole purpose of an defending donald trump. I wanted investigated for the sole purpose of donald trump. Ive got to finish the final thoughts, its one of the reasons. At the time i began this investigation, at the time i ended it, he was not a president ial candidate. Martha but he has now. How would i know that martha i understand what you are saying. But the concern is fraudulent the concern is political spin how would i say as a lawyer in 2018 that they are explaining to me how the crime that my client is being investigated for was committed by others and the Vice President of the United States committed a very big crime, im supposed to say im not going to investigate that because joe biden is sitting at home thinking about running for president of United States two years later . Isnt that ridiculous . Martha i think its a good point, i understand what you are saying. The democrats are covering up corruption. Massive corruption. Martha but dont you understand of course i understand. Martha i understand completely that you want to look into it, bill barr wants to look into it, the origins of the 2016 election. And corruption, joe biden 2016. Martha that triggers something different. Hes running for president against the current president and it triggers concerns that what is being requested is a little bit of a dig, Everybody Knows that the hundred biden situation is very sensitive. Its something thats absolutely going to come up. Hes very corrupt. Martha there are different elements to the hundred biden story. Because you have to be naive martha this is martha july 25, kurt voelker to andre your mack associate to zelensky. Says good lunch, thanks. Assuming president zelensky convinces trump he will investigate them and get to the bottom of 2017, well have a date for a visit in washington. Good luck to you tomorrow. Thats very good. Does it say 2016 . It doesnt say President Trump wanted to interfere in the 2020 election. It says the president wants you to investigate substantial allegations of credible crimes by high level american official officials. Exactly what obama didnt do five years ago that couldve stopped the whole thing. Martha one thing youve absolutely succeeded in doing his push this to the forefront and i think its already you should be delighted. Now the prosecutor im going to tell you another thing. I never investigated china for the very reason you criticize me for investigating china because martha i didnt criticize you for investigated china. The media would criticize me. Im getting criticize for investigating a situation in which he put in himself. I didnt pay the bribe. I didnt know about joe biden. Im being criticized for investigating that. Imagine if i started investigating china . I know i could prove china. Martha have you investigated china . Have you talked to people in china about joe biden . I convicted the commissioner of the mafia, 1,000 mafia members, 200 crooked politicians, democrats and republicans. Give me credit for having a nose for corruption and crime . Martha i absolutely give you credit for having a nose for crime. I can smell it. Heres what i smell. China is the bigger sellout than ukraine and the Democratic Party is scared out of their minds because display per pay scandal does not just involve biden. The Big Questions that need to be asked when the New York Times first exposed the enormous conflict and criticize how could you have your son taking money from a corrupt oligarch . Martha he was asked that many times. Why didnt obama stop it . Martha if there are indications they were concerned in the Obama White House about it, they talk to him several times, they didnt want to step in. Maybe they wish they had. Why . Isnt it similar to clear hillary and the Clinton Foundation . Martha absolutely there are parallels. Do you see a pattern there . Is it possible if we break this open, we are going to find out the Obama Administration might be one of the more corrupt administrations in a very long martha well see. Is it is it possible that the democrats cover it up and fight for their lives, violating laws in order to violate the president of United States . Make no mistake about it. The president of the United States is very serious and lawyers are working to sue those guys directly, individually. Not a joke, not a threat. Weve got lawyers working on it as we speak and thank you, schiff, because you keep lying every day. He knew about the whistleblower. And you lied about it . Martha we reported it. I guess a lot of people look at the situation, let me ask the question, the state department and all these diplomats who have a lot of experience in ukraine and spent a lot of years there who feel very differently about this situation than you do, they dont see under the rocks what you dont see under the rocks. May be if they saw what i saw under the rock space wouldnt be going on in ukraine. Maybe donald trump is going to fix it all because hes a disruptive president who knows how to break up the swamp. Rudy giuliani is not going to fix it. Donald trump is going to fix it. The reason hes president of United States, they are just Walking Around with their shoes on and havent done a thing about corruption, in the ukraine, contribute to it. Do you know what they say in the ukraine when they talk about corruption . They say bullet. Dont you think an american president has to crack that open with the very diplomats that couldnt find it dash martha maybe President Trump will solve all the corruption in ukraine no, he didnt martha im just repeating what you say. Many americans look and say exactly what you are doing in this situation . Why are you, the president s personal attorney, what is your personal whats your mission . To disrupt the world. My mission is to defend my client. Martha its in the interest of your client to find out what happened with joe biden and burisma please, thats a miss characterization, martha. Martha tell me. Which would involve collusion in the election into which joe biden inserted himself martha isnt that what bill barr is doing . Bill barr wasnt there when i was doing it. Martha whats different from bill barr and your role . There was no bill barr when i did it. Martha you started before he did, i get it. I started the investigation november 2015. Martha i understand that. I ended the investigation march of 2018. Every fact i have because back to that. How could it possibly be to affect the 2020 election. How could i possibly have known that he was going to run and why would i have not investigated him as he was central to the whole story and they gave it to me . I was going to say, no, its like the biden thing, the American Press will attack me if i go after that. 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Martha texas congressman will hurd, former cia agent who sits on the House Intelligence Committee. Congressman, thank you very much. Good to have you here tonight. Good evening. Martha the message of that is its not about politics according to mr. Giuliani. Its all about the deep desire to root out the deep corruption in the ukraine and also as it extends to the Democratic Party and his argument for why joe biden is relevant to the larger corruption picture is because he fired the prosecutor and all those other cases fell away, one of those other cases may have led to the big 2016 corruption that he is seeking. How does all of that sit with you . What do you think about that . Thats a lot to impact there. I think thats one of the reasons we should be having these hearings at the House Intelligence Committee. Lets start with a whistleblower, i think we should be protecting the whistleblower because they made an allegation, they are just that, allegations about wrongdoing that we should pursu pursue. I think mayor giulianis perspective on this and understanding what hes doing, disrupting the world actually mean, hows it going about doing that . Its an important perspective. I want to hear from hunter biden, his name has been thrown around a lot. What actually did he do . We should have that in front of the committee. I wish that chairman schiff was doing this in the way to try to uncover the truth rather than trying to end with some preconceived notions, but i think the way the senate is trying to move forward on this investigation to understand what really went on, what happened, what did the ukrainians actually believe so we can ultimately put this to bed because i wish we were talking about how are we working with ukraine to push out the russians . The russians invaded that country. Thats the whole reason we are having these conversations. Thats where i think we should be talking about the u. S. Foreign policy, to show the rest of the world that if the russians did Something Like that again, we would be there to back it up. Martha you said youd like to hear from Rudy Giuliani. Would you be asking him to come forward to the committee and answer your questions . I believe a majority of the House Intelligence Committee have already asked for him to show up. I dont know that. I dont get a say in who shows up. Thats determined by chairman schiff. And im sure mayor giuliani is one of the people that is ultimately on that list. Theres a lot more folks from the state department because part of the concern here is a private citizen pushing forward with u. S. Foreign policy, what actually happened, get some context to the call from the july 25th theres a lot of questions. Martha his answer to that as far as i can tell is he believes there he is the only person who can do it. He has contact, hes going to uncover all of his corruption, and the fact that the ukraine government, the ukraine government said that they exonerated or did not find any illegality in burisma or the biden connection, doesnt matter to him at all because the whole government was corrupt so weve got to start over and thats actually what they are doing right now. Well, we may invite you to come and participate in the hearings to unpack some of those things and get to the bottom of some of these answers. But yes, they were already several investigations into a number of these countries. We know there is corruption and ukraine. The u. S. Government has participated, worked with the Ukrainian Government on this issue. Making sure to understand the House Committee on intelligence is understand the allegations, how they are made by the whistleblower. They want to see everything, others want to see, i want to see lets get to the truth. Martha that it be nice. Thatd be helpful. Martha thank you so much, congressman heard. Tha