The Justice Department about this. So, if it was an uptime to obstruct justice, what do we have . Watch this. A clip from earlier today on another network, someone tries to raise that question. Watch. Two former officials knowledgeable of the situation confirmed to cnn two former officials. I will tell you what, nameless people, then, we will have something to talk about. It is not just cnn. It is the Washington Post, New York Times, wall street journal, cnn, abc, nbc. Who are the sources . Who are the sources . Please please you are just going to attack sources that is ridiculous you are at mcmasters lying . I am not saying mcmasters is lying that is his opinion. You cannot attack you cannot attack the stellar report as of cnn tucker . Skeptical says the retired navy seal, be quiet screams the 33yearold news anchor, clapping her hands and rage. How dare you a lot of table panels have unfolded like this recently, and that is a shame because as we noted earlier, the world is a very complicated place. Washington especially. What you think is happening often really isnt happening. Heres what we know. There are an awful lot of people in washington who would like to remove the president from office and they are using leaks to do so. What are their motives . In a lot of cases, those are completely unknown. A lot of what you hear and accept uncritically, you ought to question. Take the russians for example. Just a few years ago, the russians were considered harmless, toothless, drunken, and anyone who suggested otherwise was considered a holdover from the cold war. Now, the russians are considered evil, and , in fact, our most dastardly enemy, and anyone who questions that, is probably a tool of Vladimir Putin and therefore, a traitor to our country. One current member of the House Intelligence Committee put it this way. Why were the russians in the white house . And i mean that seriously. They had just attacked our democracy. They are being there is exactly what we have all feared all along, is that donald trump would Say Something to them that is not really in line with u. S. Policy. They are not our friends. We should share nothing more than pleasantries, certainly not National Security secrets. Tucker congresswoman stephanie murphy, a democrat from florida, went a step further than this. She demanded the u. S. Government stop speaking to russia at all in any way. There is no such thing as appropriate contact with a hostile foreign government. No word on whether she applied that same standard to barack obama recent deal with communist cuba. Nobody is arguing here, even a Trump Administration, that rush is a close ally of ours about the putin government is rooting for america success. Theyre probably not. But when a country goes from being an afterthought, as russia was just recently, to the target of war drums, as it is now, it all changes in a single election cycle, as it has, its fair to ask, what exactly is going on . Almost certainly more than meets the eye, probably a lot more. If you live in washington, you know for a fact that there is a lot happening behind the scenes. The press out to be asking questions about this. But they havent. Instead, theyve attacked anyone who does. Not on this show. With those questions hanging in the air, we are joined by one of the very few people in the country who might credibly answer them. He is Stephen Cohen prayed for decades, he taught and researched russian politics at e joins us tonight. Professor cohen, thanks a lot for coming on. To start with the first of these two stories, the president is accused of passing critical intelligence to the russians in a meeting at the white house. Do you believe that happened . No. And nor have i in these decades you mentioned ever heard an elected member of congress say that we should have no relations with the russians at all. Presumably, that would include a Nuclear Weapons control, when i see, i guess it was a democrat come on the bottom of your screen, asking what are the russians doing in the white house anyway, well, they are doing what you President Trump, the National Security of our nation, because what is at stake here is a proposal by putin of russia, by trump of america, to join handsn an alliance against international terrorism. I would have asked you, if you had asked me a few days ago, what is the number one threat to the United States day, i would have said international terrorism. I dont know if you agree, tucker, but it is up there. Today, i would say, it it is ts assault on President Trump because it has been going on a year. Can we be clear . What he is been accused of is treason. This is never happened in america where there is a russian agent in the white house. And we have had a whole array of accusations, putin helped him get into the white house, his associates are doing wrong things with russians, that flynn did something wrong in talking with his former National Security advisor, did something wrong with talking to the russian ambassador. There is no evidence that there was any wrongdoing, and indeed, flynn should have talked to the russian ambassador. That was his job. So, this is beyond belief now and has become covered by this, i mean this assault on trump and his loyalty, this has become a National Security threat in its. Tucker is the heart of this, i noted russia went from being an afterthought for most people, to being at the very center of this very complex conspiracy theory. It is not all about trying to get trump out of office by this . Or are there other motives . I think two motives have driven this, i think im a false narrative against trump, that he is somehow a kremlin agent. Two forces. One is the clinton wing of the democratic party, which doesnt want to admit she lost the election, wants to say, i, clinton won, but put in and stole it from me. Then, maybe she wants to run again. I think that is the possibility. At the same time, there has long been in washington, a powerful, lets call it, the Fourth Branch of government. The intelligence services, who have opposed any cooperation with russia. Remember, and 2016, president obama worked out a deal with russian president putin for military cooperation in syria. He said he was going to share intelligence with russia, just the way trump on the russians were supposed to do the other day. Our department of defense, they wouldnt share intelligence. A few days later, they killed syrian soldiers, violating the agreement, and that was the end of that. We can ask, who was making the Foreign Policy in washington today . Tucker who is making our Foreign Policy . Of the president is elected in part to do that, he ran explicitly in a closer relationship with russia, not everyone is for that, but he won the election by saying out loud, we have a common enemy and islamic terror, and so, isnt it constitutionally the president s role to determine our project for the rest of the world . Isnt the whole point of electing a president . You and i have to ask a subversive question. Are there really three branches of government . Or his or her Fourth Branch of government . These intel services. What we know as a fact, obama tried, not very hard, but he tried for military alliance with putin in syria against terrorism. It was sabotaged by the department of defense and its allies in the intelligence services. Trump says, he said in my campaign trail, wouldnt it be great to cooperate with russia . My answer is, it would be great. President trump seems to want that to happen but he is being thwarted every time he gets close, we get the newly created tucker of what you are saying is true, and his attempt to change the course of american Foreign Policy was sabotaged by a Government Agency without his permission, i mean, that a sort outside the bounds of Constitutional Government and i hope you are wrong. Professor cohen, thanks for joining us. Recently, the House Minority leader, nancy pelosi of california argued that simply because there was so much from us about russia, so much shouting, naturally, there must be something there, as she put it. As yogi berra said, it is too much of a coincidence to be a coincidence. There is just something wrong with this picture. All of the same time, as people are saying, you know, you have to be careful because this is its own incident, but its about russia. And every day, i ask the question, what do the russians have on donald trump . Financially, politically, or personally, that hes always catering to them . Tucker in other words, people are upset about russia, there must be something there because they are upset and therefore, we should be upset. Mathematicians have finally found the perfect circle and it lies in Nancy Pelosis logic. Joe manchin joins us tonight. Senator, thanks for coming on. You brought into this. What did you make first off, what are professor cohen just said. He believes that President Trumps Foreign Policy objectives, syria for example, were thwarted by members of his administration, staff working in the agencies, who disagreed with him . I can go back, i was listening to the hole into for you had with him. He goes back basically, we shouldnt be talking to russians, other powers of the world. Russia is the only country that can do any harm to the United States of america. It is foolish not to think that we should try to build a relationship with them. Tucker they are the only country that can do harm . They have basically the missile capability to do harm to the United States. I have asked that question many times on armed services. Which country is capable of doing harm to us . Russia. Not turning out, not north korea, as much as they are trying and want to. Russia has the ability within Nuclear Weapons to do harm. So, you have to have the report. You have to have some type of communication. Tucker sure, but dont we also have common interests . Most certainly. Pushing the button on both sides. Tucker my question is look, i think there is probably a balanced view of russia, you recognize they are a threat militarily but they also can be an ally in the fight against terror, a Massive Energy producer, we could benefit from a relationship with them. When did we become so evil that talking to them is itself inactive tucker, i dont think tucker has ever been our ally. I dont think they have our best interest. Basically, we know the hacking that has gone on, we know the intensity of the hacking this last election. But there is no proof that anything changed. President trump won by 43 in West Virginia. I can assure you, they couldnt have altered that outcome. Tucker you dont think the russians were involved in a boating in West Virginia at all . I dont think wheat they were involved in the outcome. We have seen no proof that their intention to be involved to change the outcome of the election. With that being said, we know they have attempted more, dunmore, put more effort. The trolls and Everything Else that is going on, the hacking that is going on, all of these things, and basically, something that we should accept or allow whatsoever. Tucker as you know, since you live and work here, this is shoving down our government. I think the Trump Administration is partly to blame. I think his conduct is unflattering. Basically, it has ground everything to a halt because of this russia question. I just wonder if voters are in favor of that. Like your voters . Today think this is more important on coal jobs . I dont like it is going to get to a halt. If you want to see a halt, it was ground to a halt under the Obama Administration basically because of mitch having the power to grounded to a halt. Two wrongs dont make a right. Im the first to tell you that. I didnt like what happened the last eight years, the last four years that i was there. Now, what is happening today. Tucker i for democrats of it they wont vote on fbi director. Until we get an independent investigation of russia. First of all, i think it is important that we have a special prosecutor. Some people dont believe that. I respect that. The bottom line is, we stop in government, give me a good sip, centrist, as far as an fbi director, doesnt have any political ties, we should vote for him. Tucker regardless. Thats mine. I am doing my own thing, which i always am. Tucker im not saying that the russia question should be ignored. I dont know what is at the bottom of it. I dont think anybody else. I resent people pretending they do when they dont. Lets look into it. Is it more important than the stated goals of the administration or the Opioid Crisis in your state . Russia seems like the most important by far to the democrats right now. The report that came out this morning, todays a bad day. We have been hearing things hour upon hour. I am on the Intelligence Committee and i have said this. There are 19 people privilege to testify information at that level, supposedly, that is that. We are told early on if you discuss this, you can discuss it with her colleagues and no one obody. So, we dont talk about things, youre not supposed talk about things. If we do, will get thrown out the committee. If its serious enough of what we were veal, then, could be federal charges. I take that very seriously. The president operates under a different set of rules than we do. Tucker executive branch employees, everything we are talking about now is the result of leaks presumably by people who work for donald trump, career employees i would bet, who are leaking this stuff and basically making it impossible to govern. My recommendation would be this. I would like to visit all of our intel sites and to meet with all of our intel people, they are the rest of the world by the need to have some type of correlational relationship, a dialogue. The president need to patch this up. We have the best and we have people, basically our allies around the world, tucker, that have gone to battle with us, they have fought with us, they have died tucker are you suggesting that trump is getting leaked on, basically you should create a personal relationship with people who work in the intelligence community. They are professionals. Tucker civilian control of government, they should do what he asks or leave, is another way it works . These are career professionals. Tucker shouldnt they be accountable . They are accountable to the country. Everybody who take that oath is accountable to the country. The country comes first. There is no person, the president , me or anybody else, the country comes first. Tucker of course. Im dressing under my system, their bosses the guy who they elect. They have to obey him because he was elected by voters. They werent. So, when they ignore him they are doing their job day in and day out. Thank got for that. They are basically monitoring and talking with our other allies, gathering information that keeps america safe. Tucker the elected guy gets to set the policies. They dont. Do they . He can set them. He can set the policies but they have to enforce it, they have to follow through. The end policy, i would think im of the policy would be the same. Collect all the information, possible. Prevented from doing us harm. Who are our allies around the world . Because people are trusted afraid we put people in harms way . What came out today put could put in all a lot of people in harms way. We are concerned about that. Tucker senator, thanks. Abu comey memo, could this just be the latest case of a lot of people in washington going too far too fast . Brit hume here to tell us what we know and what we dont and what we can speculate about. Plus, Hillary Clinton has launched a new Political Action committee. What happened to the Clinton Foundation, by the way . We will talk became americas sweetheart when she starred on full house. 30 years later, People Magazine says, lori looks as ageless as ever. Lori loughlin i am feeling really good about my skin right now. And thats because of meaningful beauty. 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