That said, his total known extent of his contact with the contact. On march 2nd i said attorney general sessions should not be in that job and he should resign, three months ago, more than three months ago, so thats my position on him. I dont even know why he still attorney general, he lied before congress in order to get confirmed, that the perjury charge, he also lied on his security clearance forms on his russian meetings, those are false official statements. He should have resigned months ago. For the good of the country, attorney general sessions should resign. Tucker weve been covering the story most nights on the show for the past seven months. Over that time weve noticed a theme, almost all the claims you hear about russia are general rather than specific. Russia hacked our election, we have that went almost every day. Okay, we are openminded. How exactly did russia hack our election . Well, comes the answer, they just did. All 17 Intelligence Agency say they did. Russia undermined our democracy, okay, but can you be more specific, thats a pretty serious charge and it might be nice to have some details. They cant provide those details, or they wont. If you keep pressing for details, they will attack you personally, as we found out when adam schiff, the ranking democrat on the House Intelligence Committee accused me of carrying water for prudent when i asked him to back up his claims. Character assassination is always easier than making a sensible argument, which brings us back to Jeff Sessions. Those two meetings with the russian ambassador, those have changed the course of recent history, sessions was forced to recuse himself from a Major Investigation into russa potomac russia and then fend off allegations that he somehow committed treason because of of meetings. Since nobody accusing him seems to know or care, we decided to find out ourselves. Over the weekend we tracked down an eyewitness to one of those meetings. It took place at the Republican National convention in cleveland the first week of july last summer. If an event called Global Partners in democracy. It turned out to be at a not very stimulating gathering stage every four years on behalf of scores of foreign diplomats who want to see how american politics worked. Sessions gave a speech and as he left the state, about 50, 15 ambassadors walk up and say high to him, kislyak was among them. The total extent of the meeting. They never broke away from the group to talk privately, they never exchanged for cash or microfilm or secret messages. We know this from the person we talked to who was a few feet away when it happen, but also because that room was filled with more than a hundred other witnesses, that includes agents from american Diplomatic Security in washington and a number of obama political appointments and the state department. They were all standing around as the meeting took place. It was a total nothing burger, says the person who has sought, who has never worked for sessions, doesnt even know him. I was shocked by how it has been distorted. If you are shocked, you havent been paying attention, this kind of thing is happening all over washington right now, guilt by association, attacked by innuendo, classic witch hunt stuff. If Jeff Sessions can be denounced as a russian spy, anyone can be. A political commentator who thinks sessions must resign, she joins us tonight. I would think as a progressive, you would believe and hearing evidence before reaching conclusions and due process. He hasnt even testified yet, these meetings amount to nothing and you think you should sign. Absolutely i think you should resign. Lets start on the basis that he should not even be attorney general. The same man that called the naacp and the aclu unamerican, the sam man that Coretta Scott king should not be anywhere near our government at his judgeship was rejected. Sessions should definitely resign, he has no business in our government. Tucker let me just say, i think the naacp is a shadow of itself, a joke. Wendy Tucker Tucker it makes me somebody who disagrees with you on that subject. Wendy it make to someone who disagrees with me, but the difference between you and death spasms are not the attorney general. You should have a certain the court when it comes to that coke tucker anybody who criticizes the naacp or the aclu should not be allowed to be the attorney general of the United States . Wendy i think it should be rejected, as it was for sessions. Moreover, tucker only people who agree with the political aims, so basically no one who is right of left should be allowed to govern . That kind of is the view of notice. Wendy thats not necessarily the view, the view is anyone in our government should welcome all thoughts, all streams of thinking and Jeff Sessions does not. Thats a problem. Tucker youre the one who doesnt. He disagrees with you on the subject, so he shouldnt be allowed to hold hyatt government office, that appears to be the case or making, is that a constitutional position you have . Wendy the position i have is that he lied on the form that made in the attorney general. Tucker he lied because he was asked did you come in the congress, by the senator from minnesota, did you and your capacity as a surrogate mate with the russians, and his position is no, in my capacity as a senator from alabama, i met with kislyak. Wendy the form says you have to be honest and you have to be completely forthcoming with information. Tucker how much do you know about this . That meeting was on his public schedule. Wendy albert the third meeting we are hearing about that he has not made mention of . To be what they are denying it took place. Do you have evidence it took place . Wendy to have evidence it didnt take place. Tucker no eyewitnesses, his staff says it didnt take place. Wendy the former director of the federal bureau of investigation, it came up because we all know leaks are synonymous with washington, d. C. , even if its a closed session. Tucker he says where did it take place, and when . Wendy they said that the third meeting happened, comey did not provide details, he did not provide details. I was not there, so i dont know if he did. Tucker he should resign because why . Do . Ducey i dont want to be mean to you wendy it youre not being mean. Tucker before you destroy someones life and force him out of his job, when you want some evidence before you do that . Wendy of the way Jeff Sessions was calling for Hillary Clinton for us to ban her, he was destroying her character as well. Tucker therefore he deserves that now . Wendy what im arguing exactly is that he was dishonest on his horn. What im honoring is that he has no place being an attorney general to begin with. Absolutely not. What im arguing exactly is that this is another tile in the mosaic of dishonesty that is the Trump Administration and we have to look at it in totality. That is a problem. Tucker you dont like the administration, anybody who works there should resign because they are this is the point i meeting, i think hes worth defending as a man because i think hes an honorable man and i happen to agree with a lot of his ideas. Wendy hes honorable . He called a black attorney at he denies he said that. Wendy if i deny something does that make its not true . Tucker you up to be required to prove something before you punish someone for something, using the standards you are outlining her, but we held a criminal trial, there would be a lot of injustice. You dont punish someone without proving they did something wrong, and you cant. Wendy the president has made a lot of assassination of character on people, but we have not said to him not only do you have to apologize, you have to be held accountable. Did he not say that president Obama Wiretapped might tucker we are arguing Different Things are, are not here to defend the twitter feed, im merely saying that the attorney general of the United States shouldnt be forced out of office and left you can prove he did something wrong. In the case of the third meeting with the russians wendy as if to wasnt enough. Tucker coming down off a riser is greeted greeted by a foreign ambassador. We too using thats what he did . Do you know the extent of this meeting . Tucker i was interviewing somebody this weekend was standing right next to them, he just happened to be there and i take his word for it. A ton of other people in the room, like 100 of them. Shouldnt we have a higher standard before we try to destroy people or no . Wendy i dont think she is being destroyed. Tucker how would you feel, you teach at johns hopkins, ive heard that wendy i dont know any details, but she may have met with some representative of a Foreign Government i dislike and i will go go to her employr and say she needs to be fired right now. How would you feel about that . Wendy i would feel okay because i know at the end of the day tucker [laughs] wendy i can go before the world and say actually i did not we will see tomorrow that Jeff Sessions is not going to do that, instead hes going to say i will enact executive privilege on this and i will not answer these questions. Thats what we will see. We will see him play the blame game as they are light on this form because i didnt know that i should put on the form. Tucker the blame game. I do think there is a higher principle here, thanks for joining us. Wendy thank you. Tucker by now former cbs evening news host dan rather should know better than to push dubious political news angles for political gain, he lost his job doing that several years ago. Nevertheless, last friday he went on another cable channel to compare the events of last falls election to the war against japan somehow. Speak with the russians pulled off what i call a psychological pearl harbor, a surprise attack that was devastating to the confidence of our whole system of election, our whole system of government. One of the great psychological warfare victories. Tucker is it time for world war iii . Because remember, russia hacked our democracy, Charles Krauthammer is a writer and it columnist. Charles, when you look at russia hacking our democracy, does pearl harbor come to mind . Charles i think thats a deranged analogy. Tucker [laughs] charles one of the worst scandals since teapot dome. Watergate is insignificant compared to it. I am not a trump apologist. Tucker i can vouch for that. Charles i love the word lordy. I will adopt it for my own. So far it starts with the charge the russians have interfered in our elections and the comey hearing, people got all incredibly sanctimonious. Comey said its not a republican issue, its not a democrat, its an american issue, a threat to our democracy. Yes, they leaked some documents we think. The idea that they actually tampered with the system, the russians have been doing this just about every election and every country that we know. Its just a little more obvious this time. Imagine that this had happened in 2012 and it was but romney, the man who said russia is our biggest enemy, it was at the receiving end of russia hacking and that the accusation was they reelected barack obama, do you think the democrats on that committee would be over this attack on american democracy . This is purest hypocrisy, but lets ignore that and see you want to investigate that, thats not what the democrats are interested in. If the collusion argument, that is sort of the sidebar supposedly the sidebar, theres no evidence up until now and theyve been looking since july, a from collusion in this affair. On the second count, theres no evidence. Now they are going after the defective stuff, what prompted afterwards, people know they will not get him on collusion, not on the evidence that we have. The head of the fbi tells him three times you want to target and you are in our eyes innocent of this. Now it will be on obstruction, whereas a professional Alan Dershowitz said, how can the president be obstructing justice when he has the Constitutional Authority to dismiss the case or to order its dimensional instantly . If hes allowed, i say its improper, he shouldnt have done it, but the evidence of obstruction of justice when he has the authority to dismiss it completely tucker its insane. The one thing that comeys testimony that struck me was theres probably a lot of regions he would have needed to recuse himself, i cant tell you what they are. Charles thats innuendo. Tucker it is the lowest form of character assassination. Then it turns out according to the leaks in this meeting he didnt have the goods, he had no idea that he may have met with them a third time at some undisclosed place, it was only designed to hurt Jeff Sessions. The fbi director shouldnt act that way. Charles i think trump had a really bad day on the day of the comey testimony. I think comey had a really bad day as well. The idea that he was sort of slanted by the democrats will sort of shocking and revolting. A guy who admitted to being cowardly in the face of obstructionist from Loretta Lynch to being cowardly when he was supposedly being improperly influenced by the president , by not going to the authorities if he thought there was obstruction going on. Instead putting it in a memo, sticking it in a box and holding it as protection. These are not very honorable things to do. I thought he came out diminished as well. We are now on like the third branch of this attempt to bring down trump, the collusion, which is not there, the obstruction which is not there, so now they will go after sessions, on what . What is the charge . Its not even clear, that he liked borscht shoulders with someone whose job it is to meet senators, thanks for joining us. Charles thanks for my pleasure. Tucker are u. S. At progressive, a new production of Julius Caesar in new york will let you live out your fantasy and at least one person at cnn thinks that great. 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Spoiler, he does get stabbed to death halfway through the play, as he has for hundreds of years. They tweeted this, if you are in new york, go see Julius Caesar free in central park, brilliantly interpreted for the trump era, a master press, he laughed, he cried. Fantasies of the violent death seem to be a running theme at cnn these days. Just two weeks ago, Kathy Griffin, a cnn host at the time, fantasized about beheading President Trump. What is going on over there . Joe writes on the media for the hill, he joins us tonight. Is it wrong to connect the dots and see that this is a theme no now . Its absolutely a theme. Time warner owns cnn, Kathy Griffin situation just two weeks ago, they are forced to let her go 24 hours later. They also own hbo and belmar just ten days ago on that program interviewing a republican senator said that he was a house and wanted and he had to apologize. Hbo didnt suspend him, there was no threat of boycott. Hbo featured a severed head on game of thrones of president bush. When you quote to raise is mine. Cnn releases a statement that hes not an employee of the network even though he hosted the show. A week later they were forced to fire the employee and hes gone. Time warner has an opportunity to say that we dont agree with any production that assassinates any president , trump, obama, bush, it doesnt matter, instead they appear to be sticking by, like the New York Times , who also sponsors it in central park. They have in common, a harvard study about two weeks ago shows that cnn is number one in terms of negative coverage of drum, 93 negative. New york times is number three. 87 negative. It shows me they not only disagree with the president in terms of ideology and policy, theres an actual vitriol and hatred there that leads to them sponsoring events like a Julius Caesar<