Cannot compare me. I think putin is. Tucker is a gross overstatement. You can think is insane all you want. Tucker you just compared me to a nazi apologize because i asked a simple question for you down. American interests Vladimir Putin invaded his neighbors, broke in the long peace in europe, he assassinates dissidents and journalist, he bombs women and children on purpose and syria. He is as bad as hitler and i am sorry if you dont like the Charles Lindbergh then, i will retract that. Lets just say, you sounds like someone in 1938 saint, what has hitler done to us . Tucker i would hate to go back and read your columns assuring america that taking out Saddam Hussein will make the region calm or, more peaceful, and america safer. In fact, it has done exactly the opposite it has empowered russia and iran, the two countries you say you fear most. Lets just be totally honest. You dont always know the outcomes. They are not entirely predictable. Maybe we should well worth the moral a little bit. We can only make the decision day day by day. You made your career, and american conservative patriot. Now you are suddenly cheering for Vladimir Putin . Tucker i am not at any sense cheering for Vladimir Putin. I am cheering for america as always. Our interests are to come first. To the extent that making temporary alliances with other countries serve our comparing people to hitler advances the ball not 1 inch. M putin hates america and he wants to hurt us. I am sorry, all of this russia is evil. Tucker we cannot in any way do business or make common cause with a country whose leader is evil, a bad person. That takes most people off the table. Most countries are run by really bad people. Because you are talking about alliance, antiterror alliance. Come on. Tucker the first step, cheering on any attacks made by russia against our moral enemy, a real enemy, isis. When i just say thats great . I dont like putin. Im not living in russia. Im not taking money from the guy. A good deed is a good deed no matter who commits that. Putin isnt killing isis, hes attacking the antiasada people by letting us fight isis. Tucker are you convinced do you speak arabic, by the way . No, i dont. How is your russian . Tucker is nonexistent and i would never come to be a russia expert. We are sitting here talking about i bet you were in that category in syria, saying they are freedom fighters, they are serving the interest of freedom or democracy or American Interest when in fact, we know very little about these groups and some of them are truly bad people. We are not backing the truly bad people. Tucker how do we know that . Is asada good guy . Tucker i dont know . If we align with russia, we are aligning with iran. We are aligning with assad. Tucker thats bad for American Interest because why . Do you think iran is good for American Interest . I think iran is a bad country and in a lot of ways against American Interests. But within the context of syria, assad was much better for america than the people i believe you hope to replace it with. If the kurds . Tucker the kurds are going to run syria . They are going to have an independent i am not going to break it out. Tucker because it worked so well in iraq . The problem with iraq was in 2003, when we had the chance, we didnt break it up it up. Tucker we didnt break it up. Last question, and would you knowing what you know now i hate to revisit this, knowing what you know now, deposing saddam, his subsequent death, empowered around dramatically and in fact we expressly helped iran gain traction in iraq, i do think that was a wise idea . Do you think there are any lessons Going Forward that when you take out a secular leader, the vacuum is filled by even worse people . I think that is a valid point, in 2003, we did a great thing in exclusively badly. Killing the mp, a lot of reasons for it. We believed any iraqi emigre who spoke english with an ox board accented more a well tailored suit our intentions are great but if i had to do it over again, no, i would not get rid of Saddam Hussein because we hadnt thought it through. Tucker this wasnt the only russia hawk who became extremely agitated when asked obvious questions. Just a day later, we had on someone who may have exceeded him and affected outrage. Watch. Let me ask you a question. If we were to follow the course of action you are suggesting we follow, you are demanding we follow on moral grounds, having what course of action is that . Tucker get rid of the assad regime because you fear his presence will empower around, a major problem. What would happen . Who would run to that country . Ralph peters said the kurds. You think the kurds will run syria once we depose Bashar Alassad . I think it will be very difficult to do in any case. I think it should have been done in 2011, 2012, Free Syrian Army tucker just sorry we didnt follow your advice. What is your advice, tucker . Should we collaborate with with russia and committing war crimes in syria . Is that your advice at the moment . Tucker i think you are not choosing i am very opposed to the trump policy. Tucker you specialize in moral outrage. I am a cheerleader for russia and iran. This is exactly the style of debate that prevents people from taking you seriously. Tucker am i wrong . Tucker cheerleading for iran and russia . Of course im not. I wouldnt live in you dont think we should make common cause with russia and syria . Tucker thats very different. Let me ask you this, since i think you are also historian. The congress in 1941 voted for something that sent billions and billions of dollars to Joseph Stalin in armaments and food because the congress of the United States voted hitler was a greater threat. Were they stalinists when they did that . You know, tucker, this is pierce. Will you let me finish . Will you let me answer your question, tucker . I will be the first to admit that sometimes you have to make common cause with repugnant regimes and thats what Franklin Delano roosevelt did with Joseph Stalin. We did not share common goals with russia. We do not share common goals with russia because russia is trying to further the murderous Bashar Alassad regime, they are trying to that is not our goal. Iran believes in death to israel, death to america. We should not be cooperating. Tucker let me just ask you a factual question. Russia, by the way has been undermining our electoral process, would you dont seem to carry about three when the moral preening is tiresome. Your lack of judgment is tiresome to me. I find it to be offensive. Tucker this is why no one takes you seriously. Im giving you a chance to redeem yourself. You say iran is a primary threat tell me how Many Americans in the United States have been murdered by a terrorist backed by since 9 11 9 11. So you are taking the proiranian line essentially . Tucker you were humiliating yourselves yoursel. Hundreds of american troops have been murdered in in iran tucker how did iran get so powerful in iraq . Probably because they follow the advice do not care about the deaths, tucker . Tucker do i not care about the death . Its almost impossible to have a conversation with you because your responses are so childish. Of course i care about the deaths. Your responses are ridiculou ridiculous. We dont need to be worried about iran . Tucker i am not im not arguing a proiranian line. Im not proiran, i am not prorussia, im not arguing that iran is a good place or doesnt pose a threat the United States. Im merely saying tucker what are you arguing, tucker . Tucker in a world of threats, you create a hierarchy, you decide what is worst and you go down the list. And pressure is right up there . Do you agree . Russia as a threat to us . Tucker i think russia is in the top five is absurd and it makes me wonder about your judgment. Im giving you a chance to answer the question, which is they are the only country that can destroy us with a nuclear strike. Tucker im beginning to think that your judgment has been clouded by ideology. I dont fully understand where its coming from but i will let our viewers aside. Your judgment has been clouded by ratings. Ratings of the fox news channel. Tucker thats pretty funny. I vehemently disagree with the air strikes in syria the president called for them and im against them. Im arguing principle. More than anything, im arguing for the right allowing this bloodbath to continue . Tucker you are incapable of giving a factual answer. I think our viewers can see tha that. I did not attack tucker i gave you a chance and you did not turn in, and any sense, an impressive performance. Thanks for joining us anyway. I thought it was interesting. Leftwing groups across the country are tearing down and vandalizing statues while some city governments are covering them up with burqas. To save our sensitive eyes. And up next, well talk to someone who supports demolishing history. Stay tuned. Day 13. If only this were as easy as saving 600 when you switch to progressive. Winds stirring. Too treacherous for a selfie. [ camera shutter clicks ] sure, ive taken discounts to new heights with safe driver and paperless billing. But the prize at the top is worth every last breath. Here we go. [ grunts ] got em. Ahh. Wait a minute. Whole wheat waffles . [ crying ] why wait a minute. Whole wheat waffles . Booking a flight doesnt have to be expensive. Just go to priceline. Its the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40 . Just tap and go. For the best savings on flights, go to priceline. Tucker the spasm of maoist cultural violence continues. Recently we talk to someone who supports tearing down statues that offend delicate modern sensibilities. Heres what happened. Tucker let me just say at the outset that i am kind of some pathetic to your point of view. I wouldnt want to see something that offended me every day, if there was an al sharpton monument on my street, a marionberry monument. I wouldnt like it. If you are offended by these monuments, i get that. Here is my is not that im offended, its an offense to the United States of america to honor war criminals, to honor those they are traitors to our country. Tucker they certainly were traitors to our country, they started their own country. The combination is there is no country on the planet, no society that would honor those. People with credentials like that. Tucker except to ours because it was a civil war. I agree with your definition. They were traitors to america but then they came back into america, they reintegrated into america, and then it came back absolutely. Think they did. It was a civil war. It was unlikely were invaded. It does a little more complicated than that. Here is my question. Is your view of this apply to all slaveholders or just a civil war figures . It is not just civil war figures but civil war confederate heroes, leaders are not to be honored in any shape, manner, or form as a societal imperative. The fact that we are coming to our senses with the statues and with the stars and bars, the american swastika, they almost fell. We thought we had resolved this in charlotte a couple of years ago. It is still not resolved. We are moving expeditiously in every form and fashion to complete the task of eradicating these symbols of hatred and division. Now, the issue of slaveholders slaveholders tucker can i say one thing . Just so you know, i am not even arguing, im just saying one of the reasons as hasnt been resolved is because the public is not for doing this. Only a small minority, only about a quarter of a people pulled yesterday in United States that these monument should come down. Over 60 so they should remain in the historical remnants of an earlier age you need to get the public on board before you do this, do you agree . At the height of the civil rights movement, a lot of people said we need to go slow and take our time. Now the people who they were saying that to our american heroes. Sometimes heroes, just like the people at the boston tea party, if you had pulled boston, there wouldve been people who said, why are you throwing our tea in the harbor . Tucker because it was in a democracy yet. Hold on. No, no. You have given up on the idea of Representative Government . I havent given up on anything. Tucker yes, you have. But i am saying is, i understand that some people who champion social justice get it before the main society gets it. Just as some people in the Republican Party were slow to get that their president is dysfunctional. Tucker okay. Lets go back to the question of slaveholders, though. I think this is meaningful. You make a more defensible point on the civil war question. But what bothers me about the idea that all slaveholders need to be erased from American History its not an issue of them being erased from history. Its being not celebrated. If you are. Your name on a building tucker if you live in washington okay. The city i live in is named after the founder of the country, the first president , who is plantation, which was populated by slaves, is right on the road at mount vernon. So this is not a rhetorical question, the real question. Should we change the name of the capital of the country . What should we do about George Washington . George washington is not a confederate general. George washington is the founder of a country and put his life on the line in order to do so. He was a flawed human being but he created a great thing. He was part of a great creation that is self perpetuating a selfcorrecting way that is with the process is about. So the fact is that right now we can get to George Washington in washington, d. C. , but we need to take care of these confederate statues right now. Tucker let me just a come i dont want to get to washington or washington, d. C. I dont want to rewrite history of our country. I like where you left off the last time. Referent, thanks a lot for joining us. Thank you for having me. Tucker the left isnt just going after statues. They are trying to fleece or local governments, too. We recently talked to someone who supports an illegal immigrant who collected 200,000 from taxpayers after the city attempted to enforce the law. Watch. Tucker so, here is someone who who is in this country illegally, sues because a country enforced its own laws against him legally, and gets paid by the taxpayers of this country. Is there another place in the world where this happens . Well, first of all, lets talk about the failure of this country to do immigration reform. Tucker no, no. Lets talk about slow down. I dont want to lecture on an immigration. He does not happen anywhere else . No. San francisco had to create its own sanctuary law because of the failure of the federal government. So can you imagine that a law is passed and for two months, you get incarcerated for showing up to the Police Department to reclaim your stolen car . Because that is what he did. Correct . Tucker he was in the country illegally. The theft of his car was one crime but he hadnt committed a crime he had committed a crime himself by being here illegally. The police turn him over to the feds who wanted him and other cities paying is paying him for enforcing american law. Im just noting the obvious, that is insane. You shouldnt pay a criminal for breaking the law and that is what San Francisco is doing. But San Francisco has a sanctuary law, correct . That law was enacted because the federal government failed to do reform for immigration. Congress failed, the senate failed, clinton failed, bush failed, obama failed. San francisco, being San Francisco, made sure that ed protected those immigrant populations. Tucker just so you know, they failed to pass laws that you like, but our current immigration laws were passed by democrats and republicans in the congress of the United States in washington, the system worked as it supposed to work, people voted in public on these laws. The republicans didnt do it, democrats are to come too. Its the law. If you dont like it, you elect people who will change it. But until you do that, you cant ignore the law. That is of a system works. Why do you think that other countries dont do that . So if i go to mexico, for example, illegally, i get put in jail for a longer term than an illegal board here, why cant i sue the Mexican Government for being mean to me and expect mexican taxpayers to pay me for the indignity of having mexican law enforced . You want to go to mexico . How many people live in mexico that are not legal citizens that are white that come from United States . Check out those statistics. Tucker probably not very money. They actually believe in their own country. When they go to mexico. Tucker right. Roberto, good luck out there. Thank you. Tucker up next, well revisit our interview with bill neither Television Personality guy, the one where he said people who have questions about Global Warming are mentally ill. Stay tuned. To most people, i look like most people. But on the inside, i feel chronic, widespread pain. 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