On and what goes on is really quite terrible. All right. You do need a good ground game, because this is iowa shrunk down to about two hours. Thats all they have to do. Keep in mind, in a state with better than 400,000 Republican Voters, last goaround only about 33,000 showed up. And that was divided amongst some familiar names, with mitt romney and ron paul and they had to divide the scraps up. But that was then. Could a small sampling affect the turnout now . We do know with mike emanuel in las vegas, what romney was able to do then was stop the Newt Gingrich stampede after South Carolina cold, flat, done. What is at stake tonight . Reporter good afternoon to you. We know the other rivals to donald trump would like to get a point on the board, if you will, from winning the nevada caucuses, so theres a lot at stake here tonight. The first in the west competition between these republican candidates and the war of words has gotten tougher in final moments. You have a variety of candidates taking swings at one another. Ted cruz accusing donald trump of being a flipflopper today on a whole wide range of issues, and trump in sparks, nevada, if we can show the rally there, trump a few moments ago called ted cruz a soft, weak, little baby. And issued a warning to supporters basically saying trump has strong poll numbers here in nevada. He expects a victory. The only way ted cruz can win is if there are dirty tricks and hes been accusing the Cruz Campaign of carrying out over the past weeks. So trump with some harsh attacks on ted cruz saying the only way trump loses here is if cruz steals it with sneaky tactics. Within the last 30 minutes or so, marco rubios campaign sent out an email to support es across nevada, warning about Cruz Campaign dirty tricks. The caucuses in the past have been chaotic and there are concerns is that the only way you lose is if theres something sneaky. Mike evanwell, thank you very much. What was donald trump fearing, what do you think . I think he feels like hes had some success sticking this dirty tricks accusation on ted cruz, first of all after the incident with ben carson in iowa, and now with the incident in which ted cruz had to fire his Communications Director, rick tyler, over this video that allegedly but did not in fact show marco rubio saying something derogatory about the bible. So i think trump kind of senses success here in weakening cruz. So when he senses success, he keeps pushing at it. Its a good deal of attention. This notion that, as caucus states go, you dont get a lot of bang for the buck or a lot of interest in what youre doing to spend the buck. 30 delegates are at stake, but little participation. Only about 7 of eligible Republican Voters. What can we expect tonight, byron . I think that they all want to win. First of all, trump has come off with second place in iowa, landslide in new hampshire, double digit win in South Carolina. So he could basically lay claim to a lot of momentum with a lead out west and nevada. The other candidates, the only one who has won anything is cruz, and rubio is zero in that didnt. So they want to actually win something. I will say we should be a little careful about the polls on this. Theyve been really ragged. Weve only had two polls this year on nevada. One showed trump with a 26point lead. Another showed trump with a 16point lead. Neither was after South Carolina. So i think we should take those with a little skepticism, especially since the polls in the last caucus state, iowa, really steered us in the wrong direction. As you point out, its an inexact science, especially this is the second go around where theyre trying this, republicans are, and a lot of the voting lists they had last go around they lost, so the candidates had to start from scratch. But my producers are listening to what donald trump is saying right now. Hes saying that he thinks hes going to win the latino vote. So hes counting this perception that latinos counter thing perception that latino also hate him. What is your sense of that . He wants to do that because he wants to first win. And if he won the latino vote, to remind marco rubio who won the latino vote in nevada. Now, we dont know if that will happen. We have no idea, well know more tomorrow when they count the votes. But clearly trump is trying to press this rather small caucus. There were i think 170,000 republicans who caucused in iowa this last time. Were talking maybe 35,000 to 40,000, so a really small group. But it has a lot of symbolic value, because the race has not been out west yet and here it is. The argument with those 30 delegates, its not a winner take all state, but it is possible if you wen win a little bit you know, when you look at these numbers, so trump has 65 delegates and nobody else has more than a dozen, were talking about 1200 plus needed for the nomination, so they havent gone that far. I think the bigger value is winning states. If trump can stay i won new hampshire, i won South Carolina and nevada, if we were to do well in the s. E. C. Primary states, it makes a very strong case for himself, not so much in the raw delegate count, with you but in saying i won all of these states, what have you won . Byron york, thank you very much. Thank you, neil. This big push to close gitmo today. The president is outlining a plan to do it. Its not being popularly received. But the same day we had a former detainee arrested with links to isis. The former cia director Michael Hayden on that and his fears, up next. Be careful what you wish for, mr. President. A terror bust in spain that included a detainee that was once in gitmo. This as the president lays out his plan to close gitmo. General Michael Hayden is among those saying be careful on this. The former nsa and cia director now saying we have to tread very slowly on gitmo. I understand why the president wants to bring them here, he made a political promise, i get that. And hes going to keep it. Well see if Congress Allows him. There are some congressional issues involved here. Can he do this by executive order and the courts strike him down later . I would really strongly prefer to do this without a constitutional crisis. I would rather do this by consensus. Lets parse out what weve got. The president made the argument this is a recruiting magnet for isis. I dont think thats true and its certainly not true now. Imagine were in a recruiting line out there apparently they dont have any trouble getting recruits. Were in raqqah and somebody tweets obama is closing guantanamo. Oh, well, no need for us to sign up. Those guys are still going to join. A lot of communities are going to be pretty nervous. And they have a right to be. That said, thats not my core concern. We now how to keep people in prison here, but im more concerned about legal ramifications here. So one legal ramification is, what additional rights and privileges will these people accrue because of the very fact of geography, that theyre not longer in cuba but over here in the United States . How much more difficult would that make circumstances for the u. S. Government . And then beyond that, neil, heres something i want the president to say as part of this deal. The president says were at war with al qaeda. He believes were at war with al qaeda, otherwise he wouldnt be out there killing people, which i strongly support. One of the elements of making war is to capture people and hold them, not through the criminal justice system, but hold them under the laws of armed conflict. We have a right to do that. We havent done that in over seven years. I want our government to embrace that we reserve the right to grab enemy combatants and hold them. Whether or not we ever intend to put them in court. Speaking of terror, you have been asked over the years and you talk about it in your book about how much this president has been dealing with terror and how much his predecessors dealt with terror, particularly president bush. You said even though donald trump has really blasted president bush saying that he didnt keep us safe, 9 11 happened under his watch. You had said there was no actionable intelligence pre9 11. What does that mean the it means on the 6th of august, the Intelligence Community went in in we had one item in the president s daily brief saying, bin laden determined to attack america. That was the headline. Did it say using commercial airlines . Of course not. That was just another rumor started after the fact sh look, we knew they were fooling around with airliners. But heres the way i explained it. But not using planes as weapons . We had so much data sitting in those databases, all right . That it was almost as likely that the attack would have been conducted by the tigers from sri lanka in San Francisco bay with submarines. But donald trump has used this as a galvanizing message and he tried this in South Carolina of all places. Could you accept donald trump as the republican nominee . Ill accept anybody who carries florida and ohio. So you would accept the republican nominee over Hillary Clinton . I would accept whoever controls the Electoral College deserves my loyalty and respect as president. Knowing that bill clinton appointed you, which i had forgotten to be honest, do you have any loyalty or preference to his wife . This is about going forward, and i will cast my vote based on whom i think is best for the United States. And you put some chum in the water, so let me come to the point here. If mr. Trump intends to govern consistent with some of the things he said during the campaign, i would be quite uncomfortable. Really . Yes. So when he talked about building a wall and the things he said about muslims, maybe thats all hyperbole on the campaign. Maybe. And we will see. What about keeping muslims out . Let me repeat that for you another way. We as a nation are going to keep the adherence of one of the worlds great monotheisms out of our country until we think about it for a while, which is not an unfair description of the plan of action. So you think it would cause more harm than good . Even though all the prominent terror attacks have been committed by extreme muslims . It would cause more harm than good, and hear me out. More of those attacks happened in europe than the United States. Part of that is distance and geography. Part of that is the character of the societies in which we live. We are a welcoming society. We assimilate very well. The average islamic income in this country is above the national average. None of that is true in those european countries. Why would you put that cultural reality at risk by saying these kind of things . That makes americans less safe. Thats interesting. Would marco rubio and his comments on this and other subjects, since so many bush loyalists have moved to him as sort of like a backup acceptable figure entice you . I have advised governor bush. Ive not made any decision on advising anyone else. Okay. On how Dangerous Things are now versus post 9 11, you have an interesting Vantage Point from the nsa, cia, more or less vulnerable to attacks now versus then . Let me paint a graph in the ether. This is september 10, 2001. Thats our starting point. We were in great danger. Over the next ten years, because of the actions of two president s, not just president bush, but president obama, we have made ourselves a great deal safer. If you and i were having this conversation in 2011, i would be feeling good about life. But since about 2011, that line started to go back up. Weve run into jihad 2. 0 in the face of isis. So that line now has come back up on that graph. Its still not in my view where it was in 2001. Is that because of the rise of isis or the rise of these, you know, lone wolf attacks . Its across the board. John mccain was saying, well, what weve done is default on our leadership role in the middle east and now theres hell to pay. I would strongly agree that that line nosed over at about the same time, and in fact, in part because of the american decision to go to the residual force in iraq represented by a round number, zero. So a huge mistake . Oh, yeah. It threw away victory that behad in our grasp. I am not saying those 15,000 residual americans were going to defeat isis, but they were the glue that kept Iraqi Society from turning against itself. With the americans there, the three factions could these agree on one thing, the other two werent going to eat them. When the americans left, everybody went to their corner and lived out their worst expectations. Scary stuff. In the meantime, donald trump is speaking, ted cruz is speaking. Were listening to donald trump right now, because he is looking at his lead in ohio, moving well past nevada and the caucuses today and take note of the fact that that is john kasichs home state where he is presently the governor, and he is salivating at the prospect of beating kasich in ohio. A big kasich supporter named Montel Williams says he has another thing coming. Hes next. Go, go, go, go, go, go. Touchdown choir and harp music. This place, its the bestkept secret in football since. Hey, how did he get in here . and with toe nail fungus fight it with jublia. Jublia is a prescription medicine used to treat toenail fungus. Use jublia as instructed by your doctor. Now thats prime time. Most common side effects include ingrown toenail, application site redness, itching, swelling, burning or stinging, blisters, and pain. You ready to fight it . Ask your doctor if jublia is right for you. Visit our website for savings on larger size. Chuck, i know i have a 798 fico score, thanks to experian. Com. Kaboom. Get your credit swagger on. Go to experian. Com. Become a member of experian credit tracker and take charge of your score. A big poll just came out in the state of ohio, where trump is leading by a lot, okay . [ applause ] that is pretty good, right . Donald trump really liking that. Regardless of what happens in nevada, setting his sights on those big states, especially state where is his opponents reside, texas for ted cruz, ohio for john kasich. That could be a Signature Development if he were to win in either of both those states. Montel williams is supporting john kasich and he raises an interesting point. Neil, lets make sure we understand what hes saying. He said im winning by a lot in ohio. Hes only winning by 5 on a quinnipiac poll, which back in october he was winning by 21 . If you look at john kasich, in october he was at 13 . Hes now at 26 . Hes still growing where donald has hit his limit and that 5 is within the margin of error. Fair enough. But what do you make of it, that obviously donald trump, this would be slaying the two beasts that are threats to him right now, if he can beat marco rubio in florida, as he hopes to do, if he can beat ted cruz in texas and if he can beat your guy, governor kasich in ohio. Regardless of your opinions, would you say that would be a triple death blow . I think it would be a blow, but you have to deal with the other 15 states in the midwest. And donald trump is not going to take them all. Hopefully, and i think hes going to clearly show you how he will smack rubio. Rubio is going down, because people can see through the fact that we have a person that hasnt accomplished a single thing at all, and we see what has happened when you put a senator in office who is the same level of experience. Maybe thats why theyre looking at a donald trump. He gets thousands to go to these events. Youre right to point out the numbers in the polls, particularly in nevada where its very confusing. And in nevada, you said it earlier in the same segment, only 7 of the people of nevada show up. So that is not going to clearly demonstrate anything. John kasich is one of the only people in this game that right now is the adult that has accomplished things. He has balanced budgets, he has gotten a detintive portion of minority vote in ohio that donald trump will never touch. And truthfully, the republicans they lost the last election. You keep playing with people so divisive, that they are alienating minorities from the pack. There is zero percent that donald trump can overcome an 81 minority advantage. Trump folks have argued that im bringing far more into the Republican Party, not only never voted republican for never voted at all. Lets play the numbers. Right now less than 22 of the people in this country consider themselves republicans. If you take that as a portion of the entire population, thats about 80 million people. Donald trump is getting 31 of that 80 million. Thats about 29 million. If those are the numbers hes bringing new people to the poll, right now, those numbers cant even beat Hillary Clinton, period. Because you take the same numbers, 26 of this people consider themselves democrats and hillary is getting 60 of that margin. Right now, hillary also crushes him. But you i love you dearly, but youre playing the numbers to suit your argument. Isnt that what we all do . At this stage, hes attracting about a third of the voter support. He could still get the nomination and the delegates necessary still rolling out the rest of the state. I understand what youre saying. But i am just saying that in a general election, you dont think he will make up that gap that no. When its a battle between negatives, Hillary Clinton has sizable negatives. Even with her negatives, Hillary Clinton still beats donald trump. Youre good at numbers, that would explain your vast wealth, but she used to enjoy a 30point lead over him, now its a tossup. But each poll that puts john kasich against her he beats her. So weve got to pay attention. Lets look again to ohio and the midwest. What if trump put kasich on his ticket, would you be okay with that . See how are you . I thought i had you and you throw that Monkey Wrench in there. He would have to bring me on as a consultant because i think i could bridge the gap in communication. You could personally kill the terrorists. You have a hand shake that could kill them. Montel, my friend, always good seeing you. So good seeing you. Montel williams, never a victim, that man. When we come back, apple a