little uncomfortable. you know, i mean, no intent on ay messages or anything going back and forth. >> reporter: and in her mind, the most essential witness was dr. tobin. >> i feel like he could actually point out going through the video and saying, hey, at this instance right here is when mr. floyd lost his life. >> reporter: after hearing testimony from 45 witnesses, she says she had come to an opinion, but as an alternate, she was not present for the jury's deliberations. >> my opinion was i felt mr. chauvin was guilty at some level. but without applying the instructions, i don't know what i would have decided upon. >> reporter: and then there was the verdict. >> we, the jury, in the above entitled matter as to count one, unintentional second-degree murder while committing a felony, find the defendant guilty. >> reporter: and while she felt that chauvin was guilty at some level, she was surprised that he was found guilty on all three charges. >> i was amazed that it was