Transcripts For KGO This Week With George Stephanopoulos 201

KGO This Week With George Stephanopoulos July 28, 2013

All that ahead this sunday morning. Hello again, lets get right to the breaking news in the new york mayors race, Anthony Weiners Campaign Manager quit after the new revelations that weiners sexting continued even as he plotted the comeback run for mayor. Abcs jeff zeleny is here with all the latest. And jeff, the Campaign Manager is gone, but weiner seems determined to stay in the race. Reporter thats right, but despite the setback, Anthony Weiner just taped a new campaign commercial and staying in the race. Even as the humiliation threatens his candidacy. The resignation of anthony weerns Campaign Manager, just the latest bow for a campaign that looks like its on the the brink. I have to hope we get back to the issues that people care about. Reporter the famously brash new yorker struggling to halt an unending barrage. Mocked by late night comics. Hes out on the campaign, its the tour de pants. Reporter check out the yorker magazine. His former colleagues taking shots. Its so disrespectful of women. And whats really stunning about it, they dont even realize it. They dont have a clue. Reporter everyone, it seems, is piling on. Let me finish my thought reporter even at his own campaign events. This confrontation came at his most recent stop. Had i conducted myself in the manner in which you conducted yours, my job would have been gone. Reporter others showed up to tell him to drop out. Degrading women. And, i wouldnt vote for him either. Reporter it cant seem to get much worse for weiner. All sparked by the stunning and bizarre second revelation of sexting. It is not dozens and dozens, it is it is six to ten, i suppose. Then there was his wifes uncomfortable defense. I love him. I have forgiven him. I believe in him. Rb and capped off by one of his sexting partners going public with steamy photos on tmz. Hes responsible for his downfall. Reporter despite the calls to step down, hes staying in the race hoping new yorkers grow tired of it all. Its not up to you or me, voters make the decision. Reporter his biggest challenge is forgiving and forgetting takes time. Hes already fallen sharply in the polls. And now with his Campaign Manager stepping down, he is left to call his own shots. George . Well have more on that. But breaking news in the nsa spy case. We are joined by glenn greenwald, with new reporting on the domestic surveillance program. Thanks for joining us. The new reporting zeroes in on one of the most explosive claims made by snowden a few weeks back. Lets take a look. And i sitting at my desk certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone from you or your accountant to a federal judge, to everyone the president if i had a personal email. Now that claim was denied by intelligence officials, and the chair of the house Intelligence Committee, mike rogers said he was lying. But your new reporting bolsters snowdens claim. Right. One of the most amazing parts of the episode have been that James Clapper an others lied to the american congress, which everyone acknowledges, about what the nsa is doing. Its amazing he hasnt been prosecuted but still has his job. It lets National Security officials continue to lie to the public, which happened in exchange you just referenced. The way that i know exactly what they have the capability to do when spying on americans, the story im working on for the last month, publishing this week, very yearly sets forth what these programs are that nsa analysts, low level one, not just those who work for the nsa but private contractors like mr. Snowden. The nsa, they have trillions of phone calls in their database that they have collected. They are simple screens like the ones that supermarket clerks use, they have to enter an email address or ip address and it does two things. It searches that database and lets them listen to the calls or read the emails of everything that the nsa has stored, or look at the browsing histories, or Google Search terms, and alerts them to any further activity that people connected to the email address or ip address have in the future. Its done with no need to go to court. With no need to get even supervisory approval. There are legal constraints for spying on americans, you cant target them without going to the fisa court. But these systems allow analysts to listen to whatever emails day want. Whatever telephone calls, browsing histories, microsoft word documents. Its a powerful and invasive tool that he described. They are going to go before the senate on wednesday, and i defy them to deny that it works the way i just said. Do we have any evidence that capability pretty explosive capability, that it was used . Theres lots of evidence of abuse. Your network, abc news and brian ross, several years ago, nsa analysts got caught listening to telephone conversations between soldiers and girlfriends stations in iraq. And the nsa has wildly exceeded the scope of the legal limits that the law allows. There are all sorts of admissions, including this week in a letter to senator wyden that it exceeded the Legal Authority it acknowledges it has. And they write it off to inadvertent key strokes. The realy issue is they have de this in complete secrecy. Nobody monitors who theyre eavesdropping on. The question of abuse is one congress should be investigating. I know you have been in contact with snowden, it seems hes prepared to stay in russia, will that be possible and what russia will decide . Well, i think that what has happened is the United States is applying lots of pressure. Its probably at this point pending and will pend for a few more days or weeks before he gets the papers that he needs. But i thing at this point, hes happy there is to news out of russia. That allows the focus to be where he wants it to be, which is on the revelations on what theyre doing, the incredible debate in the house of representatives this week where liberals and conservatives joined together to oppose nsa abuses. I think hes content with having nothing happen so the focus isnt on him, but the substance of the revelations that he came forward to shine light on. Okay, glen greenwald, thanks very much. And more from the two top officials in the senate, republican saxby chambliss, and dick durbin. Youre the vice chair of the Intelligence Committee right now. Would it surprise you if it turns out what hes reporting there is true . That lowlevel officials have the capability to read emails, net traffic, listen to phone calls . George, it wouldnt just surprise me, shock me. I was at the nsa just last week. Spent a couple hours out there with high and low level nsa officials. What i have been assured of is there is no capability at nsa for anyone without a court order to listen to any telephone conversation or to monitor any email. In fact we dont monitor emails. Thats what kind of assures me that what the reporting is is not correct. Because no emails are monitored now. They used to be, but that stopped two or three years ago. So i feel confident that that there may have been some abuse, but if it was, it was pure accidental. Senator durbin, do you believe that, and second, talk about the vote referenced. The close vote in the house this week where the nsa Collection Program survived. But democratic colleagues are pushing to end it as well, where do you stand on that . This was an amazing vote. We came within six votes of challenging an intelligence operation. That doesnt happen very often. Hardly at all. Its an indication of a healthy democracy where the oversight of congress on even Security Issues is important. The last time i called this same issue for a vote, an amendment i offered the senator judiciary committee, senator mike lee, republican of utah and i cosponsored it, only one other senator joined us in that vote. Its clear the sentiment is growing for oversight. With the senators pushing for it, its going to increa that effort for oversight. Thats a healthy thing. Will you vote for that amendment . Yes, i will. I sponsored it. I believe we should limit the meta data collection. The notion were going to collect all of the phone records of everyone living in an area code on the offchance that someone in that area code may be a suspect at a later time goes way too far. And there should be another step, the fisa courts, there should be a real court proceeding. In this case, its fixed in a way, its loaded. Theres only one case coming before the fisas case. Its the governments case. Lets have an advocate for someone standing up for Civil Liberties to speak up about the privacy of americans when they make the decisions, and release some of the transcripts, carefully redacted so people understand the debate in the courts. So senator chambliss, support for ending that program seems to be growing. Can you defeat the amendment, number one, and number two, what kind of reforms can you support . Well, certainly its good to have a healthy debate on this issue, george. I agree with dick that the right kind of oversight is absolutely necessary. We have got oversight of this program. Both by the department of justice, by nsa, by the fisa court, by the Intelligence Committees, by the judiciary committee. There is no other program in the Intelligence Community that has as much oversight as this one, because people deserve to have their privacy protected. And i do think that were going to have to make some changes to make things more transparent. Whether we should go as far as what dicks alluded to, im not sure what that jeopardizes as a program. Lets dont forget, we have got to reach the right kind of balance between protecting americans and giving 100 protection on the privacy side. We should never invade any american citizens privacy. But weve also got a responsibility as policymakers to make sure that our Intelligence Community and our Law Enforcement community has the tools with which to provide the kind of protection that weve had since 9 11. If wed had this program pre9 11, we know theres a good chance we would have intercepted the phone calls between one of the 9 11 hijackers in san diego at a safe house he was calling in yemen. And we were monitoring the safe house, but we werent monitoring the calls coming out of the United States. Section15 would have picked those phone calls up. Who knows what might not have happened on 9 11 if that had been the case. I want to get to another story breaking over the weekend, the violence in egypt. Up to 80 people dead after the military cracked down on protesters in the muslim brotherhood. Senator durbin, is it time for the administration to take a different tack, to take a tougher tack now with the military regime . Maybe threaten more penalties or economic sanctions . This is a delicate time in egypt. Clearly they are searching for. The events over the weekend dont help at all. Weve had a positive relationship between the United States and the Egyptian Military, i want to maintain that. But we should make it clear in egypt as we made it clear in libya and syria, that firing on your own people is unacceptable by any government. And in this situation, if its established this came from government sources, it appears it did, we have to make it clear to the egyptians that thats unacceptable conduct. Senator chambliss . Its further proof, george, that going from a dictatorship to a democracy is very, very hard. And we do need to make sure that there is some sort of peaceful stability . In egypt. Exactly what the role of the United States should be there is difficult determine. They have been our ally for decades. And here all of a sudden we are seeing a move in the right direction, a mrds democracy. But we have got to be careful that we dont inject ourselves too much into the situation because it will probably make it worse. We need to send a clear and strong message to the Egyptian Military that were not going to tolerate from a friendlynation relationship standpoint the kind of violence that we saw over the weekend. But it is a very, very delicate, sensitive situation thats ongoing there. Senator chambliss, senator durbin, thank you very much for your time this morning. Thanks, george. Up next. The threats are back. With it stop the economys slow recovery . 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Jack lew and the roundtable here to weigh in on that. First Rebecca Jarvis looks at where things stand on the economy. Reporter its the tale of two economies. What brings you . Looking for a car. Two cars, actually. Reporter he says business is booming. Hes seen a big increase in sales since the start of may. We have a lot more customers, a lot more traffic and real buyers. Reporter then theres the other story, 11. 8 million americans without work. More than 4 million for six months or longer. On a scale of one to ten, how difficult is it to find a job . I would say right now its about an eight. Repgain triggering a washington blame game. This endless parade of distractions and political posturing and phoney scandals, washingtons taken its eye off the ball. Our country has fallen into the new normal of slow growth, high unemployment and stagnant wages. Reporter there are signs of improvement, stocks at alltime high, Corporate America turning out record profits, and home sales up. But unemployment remains stubbornly high, and americans are skeptical about the recovery. 82 say the economy is in fair or poor condition. If washington cant get it together this fall, then what . If they cant raise the debt ceil, fund the government into the next fiscal year, its a mess. The risks are significant. Go back into recession. Reporter for this week. Rebecca jarvis, abc news, new york. Thanks for that. Now to jack lew, thank you so much for joining us. We heard mark zandi say that washington can hurt the recovery if it mishandles the false showdowns. First is over the funding of the government. The president said hes going to veto bills that fail to roll back the sequester. House republicans are going to insist on those spending cuts. Are we heading to a Government Shutdown . I think it is imperative that washington be part of the solution, not the problem. We cant afford selfinflicted wounds, and have these selfcreated crisis month after month, year after year. Isnt that where were headed . We saw how bad it was in 2011. And we hope the Congress Learned that was not the way to do business. The president said we have to remember what were here today, were here to build an economy with opportunity for the american middle class. Hes trying to remind washington what the people of america know, this is about their future. We need to roll up sleeves and get the work done. I know thats it, but is he going to insist that any government funding bills roll back the sequester . Hes made clear hes not going to sign appropriation bills that fix defense at the expense of domestic priorities. When congress does its work in the fall, hes going to be looking to see building a Better Future for the american middle class. Those are values shared by the American People, and values shared by a majority in congress, and i think were going to be able to work through these issues, and i certainly hope that congress isnt looking to create confrontations and false crisis. We saw in 2011 how bad that is for the american economy. You saw the crisis in 2011 and the economic harm it did, there is another standoff. The president says hes not going to negotiate. Speaker boehner says he will insist on more spending cuts. How do you come together on that . Its important to remember how much we have done since 2011. You know, when we had these debates in 2011, we hadnt enacted the savings or revenue measures we have now put in place. We have on multiple occasions come together in a bipartisan way through the budget control act, we reduced spending, at the beginning of this year, we acted to remove the tax breaks for the very wealthy. We need to get the composition right. This is not just about cutting budgets, we have to have the fiscal house in order, its about building the foundation for a strong economy. I thin

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