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Sacramento and all that mattered. Turns out it wasnt the patch or hypnosis that got president obama to quit smoking. I hasnt had a cigarette in probably six years. Thats because imed of my wife. Always something going on in new york city. Opening day at the United Nations. Everybody agrees that its not as much fun without berlusconi. This mornings eye opener is presented by toyota. Lets go places. Welcome to cbs this morning. Good morning, norah. Good morning. We begin this morning with the battle to win control of a nairobi mall. It is in its fourth day. Gunfire and explosions e erupting inside the building this morning. Kenyan Security Forces are making a final push to clear out Al Qaedalinked militants. The countrys foreign minister says two or three americans are among the attackers. At least 62 people are dead in the siege, including a woman who was more than eight months pregnant. Charlie dagata is at the scene in nairobi. Reporter day four and the seenl still feels like a standoff. All morning weve seen more kenyan troops arriving more paramilitaries widening the area around the mall securing that perimeter. Theres been gunfire coming from within the mall. All indications that despite assurances from the kenyan authorities this siege is not over. This grainy photo from a mall Security Camera is the first image of the attackers since the siege began on saturday. As Kenyan Police know the wrakts about remaining militants theyre not telling. They insist they have the crisis under control. Theyre combing throgh the fourstory Shopping Complex . A clearance operation to hunt down any remaining militants. The group behind the attack somali terrorist organization al shabaab, insists that the siege is still under way. Fighters are holding their ground and theyre Still Holding hostages. Kenyan government Officials Say they now know the Group Responsible if for bloody siege thats left at least 62 dead and 200 wounded is made up of foreign fighters including americans. From the information that we have, two or three americans. I think so far one brit woman. Woman. Thats the information we have. Young men, about between maybe 18 and 19. Original arab origin but based in the u. S. , in minnesota and one other place. Reporter witnesses to survive the mall massacre said some of the fighters looked foreign and included at least one woman. British security sources say its possible that woman is the white widow dubbed so by the british media, the widow of a suicide bomber who attacked londons Transit System in 2005. Shes thought to have left britain years ago. Adding to the many mysteries around this crisis although kenyan Authorities Say that all the hos tanls have been released we simply havent seen any new ones in the past couple days. The red cross, as many 65 people remain unaccounted for. For cbs this morning, charlie dagata, nairobi. Our Senior Correspondent john miller is here former Deputy Director of national intelligence. Good morning. Good morning. Why is this taking so long . Thats not an accident and thats not being driven by authorities. Thats being driven by the terrorists. Had they gone in charlie, and blown up themselves as suicide bombers after exhausting their ammunition on the first day, this would have been a oneday story in a faraway place, especially here in the west. The idea of going in and borrowing basically the tactics and procedures from the mumbai attack, which last toledo day, and stretching it out means they not only hold hostages and hold ground, the key is theyre Holding World attention. They are global focused for four day, and thats the real goal. If they can stretch this to five they will do it. Our Dean Reynolds has been reporting from outside minneapolis, minnesota, right here in the United States where theres a jihadist pipeline, where the fbi says more than 20 americans have gone over to mogadishu. As early as 13 weeks ago they believe or 13 days ago. Why is that happening that the u. S. Is a recruiting ground for this group . Well this is something that we discovered in the fbi back in 2009 going into 2010. There was a young man named schirra ahmed, a suicide bomber in somalia, and when it turned out he was a u. S. Citizen from minneapolis, that took everybody by surprise. We started peeling back the layers and we found a network of fund raisers, of recruiters of travel arrangers who had started this pipeline and its been going on since. Its been real engagement by the Minneapolis Police department, the police in st. Paul the u. S. Attorneys office there and a number of other cities to engage the Somali Community and get tho this counternarrative. The next obvious question seems to be if theres such a strong group to recruit from in the United States, are we concerned about them carrying out attacks at home . The real concern is they get trained over there, as suicide bombers, trained in tactics and shooting and that i ear under the radar, meaning we dont know they got there and that they find their way back and that is a concern. The you look at the security yesterday here in penn station, some of the things my old Counterterrorism Bureau under mike downing was do you think in los angeles yesterday, you know in the back of their mind theyre thinking is there a companion piece for a domestic attack from the same element . A new element that may be developing is whether some of these terrorists in kenya were women. As charlie reported the white widow. What about that . That would be a surprise but it wouldnt be a first. This was a technique pioneered by the chechnyans where they used the women in their burqas and baggy clothes to smug until explosives, long weapons and so on. These were people whose husbands were killed in the fighting and who were told that you, too, can be martyrs and rejoin your husband in paradise if you die for the cause. John miller thank you. President obama says the u. S. Is providing Law Enforcement and other help for kenya. The president is about to address the United NationsGeneral Assembly. One of the big topics there is iran and a possible start of new relations. Will the leaders meet . Bill plante is at the u. N. Good morning. When the president speaks to the u. N. This morning hell condemn that terror attack in kenya and call on the you know what im sayings to pressure syria to give up its chemical weapons and warn of consequences with if they dont, and hell discuss Irans Nuclear program. Look, what everybody here is waiting to see is whether hell meet with irans new supposedly moderate president. White house officials have said repeatedly that theres no meeting scheduled with iranian president ahsan rouhani, but that doesnt mean none will occur. A meeting would have symbolic and historic value as the rhetoric between the two nations softens. Last year at the u. N. , no such meeting was even close. The iranian president then mahmoud ahmadinejad, was a hardliner on the nuclear issue, and president obama left no question as to the state of the relationship. America wants to resolve this issue through diplomacy, and we believe that there is still time and space to do so. And thats why the United States will do what we must to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Reporter mr. Obama started this years diplomatic effort monday, his first day in new york. He met with the nigerian president and attended a meeting with civilian leaders in developing countries. For his part the newly elected iranian leader who protects an image as a moderate is on the Charm Offensive in the leadup to this years meeting. When he arrives in new york monday, his Office Tweeted a picture of quote, president rouhani making his way to manhattan. And last week in an Opinion Column published in the Washington Post, rouhani wrote, rather than focusing on how to prevent things from getting worse, we need to think and talk about how to make things better. Theres a history here of unplanned meetings between world leader is in the halls of the u. N. , but when a u. S. Official was asked about president obama and president Rouhani Meeting by happenstance, he said look i dont believe anything would happen by happenstance in relationship this important. But even if there is a meeting, dont expect any immediate result. There are too many unfinished issues between the two countries. And beside secretary of state kerry is meeting with the Iranian Foreign minister later this week. Norah, charlie . Bill thanks. The president will also speak today at the Clinton Global Initiative. Former president bill clinton is hosting that meeting in new york. Norah and i spoke with mr. Clinton yesterday about iran, the terror attack in nairobi, and other issues facing the United States. Let me begin with kenya. First the personal. Weve learned that someone close to the family the Clinton Global Initiative family was killed showing you that terrorism is indiscriminate. Yes. We we lost one of our employees in our Health Access program, which works on keeping the world safe from malaria and Building Health systems around africa. She actually worked in tanzania and i saw her just a couple weeks ago when i was there. But she was nine months pregnant, just a couple weeks away from delivery. So she and her babys father were walking in that mall in nairobi because she wanted to have the baby in kenya. She thought that would be best. And they were both killed. A great sense of the tragedy that happens. Do you believe if you look at terrorism today, taking on dimensions that would bring it here to our shores . Its been here once and weve had some homegrown action but i think with al shabaab, i think that they clearly were targeting kenya because the kenyans had gone into somalia to try to stop al shahab spreading to kenya. It appears to me that the kenyan government has been quite resolute and done a good job. And i know that president Obamas Administration supported them in their efforts. And i think this has been kind of a longterm deal. We have to go on with our lives, plan our lives, and do our best to stop these things before they start. And answer appropriately when they do. Let me turn to whats happening here at the u. N. General assembly meeting. Whats the risk for the president of the United States meeting with the president of iran, just meeting with him, to have some conversation not an agreement, but a conversation . I think there are lots of things going on now that the rest of us dont know. And the president is calculating and is required to calculate whether the benefit, which would be enormous in terms of the atmospheric sustaining these two people meeting and talking, would more likely trigger positive future development or more likely compromise the iranian leader with his own conservative s conservatives. And also we dont know enough about exactly where they want to go. Do they really want to get in the position where theyre not ever going to have nuclear weapons, which is what they say . Or are we being basically diverted . I think its just a decision we have to lead with the two principles, with the president and the iranian president. But clearly theres a thaw going on and theyre rethinking their positions, and we ought to do what we can to explore it. We ought to get caught trying because we have nothing to lose by getting caught trying. In fact, the israeli Prime Minister believes that no deal is better than a bad deal with iran. This could be a trap. Do you agree with Prime Minister netanyahu . I just dont know. Thats why i think we need to let the people who have responsibility for decisions in general, no deal is always better than a bad deal. But i dont know enough about what options are available, and my guess is were well away from a deal. This is a question of if we should Start Talking now, should there be a conversation at the top or should there be other conversations which lead to a meeting. Well have much more of our conversation with bill clinton throughout morning. Former president talks about Hillary Clintons potential bid for the white house, and he responds to a report of problems and his Global Initiative organization. Thats ahead. Only seven days remain for congress to reach a budget agreement and avoid a Government Shutdown. Senator ted cruz offers a pill that would strip out provisions tying health care to the debt ceiling. I believe nothing is hurting the American People more, nothing is hurting the economy more, nothing is damaging jobs more than obamacare. But the fill bulser strategy is creating a rift among republicans. Senate Minority Leader Mitch Mcconnell opposes a shutdown even if it means keeping money for obamacare in place. Senate majority leader harry reid says he has the votes to pass a spending bill without stripping funding. Says any bill out obamacare is dead on arrival. Showdown continues in the senate. A massive earthquake in pakistan this morning as kill at least 30 people. The 7. 2 magnitude quake was centered in a remote area of western pakistan. Local Officials Say at least 30 of the houses in one district were flattened. People ran out of their homes into the streets to escape flattened buildings. The wake was felt in karachi and new delhi. Homes east of los angeles could be threatened this morning by a wildfire. Fans are burning in the an San Gabriel Mountains above azusa. A wind shift could send the fire toward a group of condos. They sit in a canyon less than a mile away. This morning the fire is only 5 contained. In colorado eight people are confirmed dead this morning after last weeks flooding. Others are still missing. More than 2,000 homes are damaged, destroyed along with many bridges. Joe biden said the Government Shutdown would not impact release efforts. They will not shut down even if the congress doesnt fund the federal government in a continued resolution. So i promise you, the president and i and the men standing behind you are going to stay focused on this. As i said when the cameras leave, the help is going to remain. Fema is offering nearly 20 million for victims to repair their homes or find other places to live temporarily. Some of this mornings headlines. The Washington Post says a crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood could grow. An Egyptian Court banned the Islamist Group on monday. Therhood supporters have been killed and thousands arrested since president Mohamed Morsi was ousted in july. The Chicago Tribune says two suspects were charged this morning in last weeks shooting at a park. It left 13 wounded. Police say the suspects in their 20s played a significant role but neither is believed to be the sheer. Usa today looks at retailers cutting back on hiring this holiday season. An Employment Firm predicts a drop of more than 50,000 positions from last year. Part of the reason a decline in consumer confidence. The Los Angeles Times says there may be a slight rebound in illegal immigration. A new study finds the number of undocumented immigrants went up slightly between 2009 and 2012. Last year 11. 7 Million Immigrants called the u. S. Home. That approaches an all time high of 12. 3 million in 2007. And florida sunsentinel looks at the eightday ordeal of men rescued at sea. A wave capsized their 16foot boat. For more than a week they clung to its hull. The coast guard came to. Good morning. Headed out the door, we have a cold front moving in our direction that will bring a couple of passing clouds. Some c