The effort and whose summer twitter storm went far enough to earn criticism from both parties the fake media tried to stop us from going to the white house but im president and theyre not. Mr. Dickerson well talk to a key conservative in the healthcare. Well also get an update on the u. S. Backed forces fight as take the isis strong hold in raqqa in syria. Using social media to defeat isis. Plus. Well talk with the authors of two new books set during world war ii and look at revealing new books about president nixon son and obama, and as always, well have plenty of political analysis. Its all coming up on face the nation. Mr. Dickerson happy 4th of july weekend. This a past week started with a win for president as the Supreme Court lifted the block on parts of his travel ban but set backs and confusion on healthcare. And an ugly outbursts from the president dominated the rest of the week. As Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell struggled to find a healthcare bill that could pass, help craft a bipartisan bill were dismissed a by the president as insincere. Thursday morning, the president embarked on a twitter rampage attacking two hosts mental states. This time there was bipartisan agreement that he had gone too far far. It is not normal for a grown man to be so consumed with petty vitrial do you regret your tweets mr. Dickerson and that it was a distraction from important businesslike the southern trip to washington. They suggested congress split healthcare into two parts. He tweeted. If republican senators are unable to pass what they are working on now, they should immediately repeal and replace at a later days. All this as members of the house and senate went home for the holiday. Our guests louisiana bill cassidy things in this bill which adversely affect my state mr. Dickerson got an ear full from constituents. And we begin today with are utah Republican Center mike lee in salt lake city, the book written out of history the forgotten founder who fought big government. I want to start with healthcare. Youre pushing something called the Consumer Freedom act. How will that get a majority of your republican colleagues . This bill weve been discussing in the senate has bailouts for Insurance Companies. It has hundreds of bills of dollars in tax relief for the affluent. It has provisions for the poor, what leads out are the forgotten man and woman, those earning a combined Household Income of 75,000 or so. Who have been left behind. And these are the people who helped propel President Trump to victory last november. We need to do more to help them and to make sure that theyre able to purchase the kind of healthcare they want, the kind of healthcare thats affordable for their families. Mr. Dickerson as i understand it, what youre proposing would allow states to have Insurance Companies had none of obamacare mandates as long as they kept one plan that would still have those parts of obamacare that people like to protections for preexisting conditions, and the essential health benefits. Criticism is if you leave just one plan, that it ends up getting all the sickist patients and while premiums go down for others who are healthier you create essentially the classic death spiral. Well, the death spiral is what we see with obamacare right now. And the fact is, that by guaranteeing them at least one obamacare compliant plan, were guaranteeing them exactly what they have now, giving them more options that would inevitably unleash free market course that is would in turn bring down the cost of healthcare. Thats what we want to do. As to those2 obamacare plan still, there are ways of funding those. There are ways of making sure those dont go in a a downward spiral mr. Dickerson the ways of funding them at the moment are subsidies tied to a percentage of your income to premiums dont get too high. Is that what youre suggesting . The problem is if premiums do get very high, that people then be priced out and youll have the sickest people unable to get insurance. Thats right. And there are concerns with that, but we have to remember that for those who were underneath the 350 of federal Poverty Level line, those people would see their subsidies go up, as their costs went up in the insurance pools. Went those people would be essentially held harmless and we would see other people, other people who would avail themselves of free market, being able to unite with an insurance company, wanted to sell them a policy they want to buy and a policy they can afford. Of mr. Dickerson let me get into place into politics where some of your body republican colleagues are nervous, which is there would be one obamacare plan that would have protections for preexisting conditions, but they worry that only one plan that would do so would really in the be protection for preexisting conditions because those premiums would be so high. And they think that is just politically something that cant be sold to your republican colleagues. Do you have an answer for that first of all, this is no different really than what they have right now where people have access to a plan, a plan very often they cant afford. A plan whose premiumses are too high, a plan with a deductible so high that they cant use the policy. We got to do something to reinject free mark forces into this environment. If we cant get this done, ive made clear if we can bring free Market Forces to bear, we can bring down costs for middle class americans. But if politically for some reason we cant get that done, what we ought to do is get back to what avenue been suggesting push full repeal and embark on a stepbystep process to decide what comes next, this is consistent with basically every republican who has campaigned for federals of for last seven year promised to do, this is consistent with what we did in december of 2015. And this is probably what we ought to be doing now if we cant save this effort mr. Dickerson if republicans cant agree on a replacement option at the moment, why would they be able to agree on one in the future . Well, if we adopted a measure, if we passed a measure, repealing obamacare, put a delayed implementation measure in there with the understanding at that point after passing the repeal measure we would undertake the stepbystep process of deciding what comes next. I think its easier, sometimes when you lump too many things into one piece of legislation i fear that might be where we are today and explanation a lot about what President Trump was talking about in his tweet the other day in his series of communications if i and i think its worth considering of its consistent with what i thought would be better a more likely to succeed legislative strategy over last six months mr. Dickerson an argument about whats been lost. Explain do us why thats important now. The stories of our early forgotten founders who taught it about federalism separation of powers. One of the things we lost is the understanding that not all power is supposed to be vested in the federal government i still the story of eight forgotten founders like indiana chief who topped ben franklin about the idea that you can form a confederate see. Ben franklin helped those to the other founders who worked those principals into the constitution. We forgotten about federalism and as we see from these discussions theres never been a time in American History where we needed federalism mor, this is neither republican or democrat, liberal or conservative. Its american, a constitutional value. One that would work well today and would allow more americans to get more what, if any, they want out of governments and less of what they wont want thats why i write i want the American People to be able to reconnect with these stories of these forgotten founders mr. Dickerson somebody who has been thinking about the founder and their standards and keeping them. They talked about virtue of their president , evaluate based on your view of the standards, the founder set for virtue, the current behavior of president this week. Look, the president of the United States is a unique man, campaigned on an aggressive platform that involved draining the swamp. The president takes a unique approach that differs from many of his predecessors. Its not going to do any good for me or anyone else to comment on things we might not like about his twitter behavior. The best thing we can do when we want to elevate dialogue in our american political discourse is to do what we can to make sure we treat others kindly with dignity and respect. Thats what intended to mr. Dickerson thanks for being with us, happy 4th of july. We turn to our political panel. Erza client is co founder and editor in chief. Lanhee chen is at Stanford University and Michael Graham is the columnist for the boston heard. Theres mcconnell trying to get a bargain or deal. President said repeal it and you heard mike lee mention that then he also has this other deal of obamacare plan and free market, free open insurance plans. Any of those a route to success i have deep concerns about two out of three, i believe senator lees approach is trying to get a state flexibility, trying to get the sort of federalist notion, i think mcconnells bill does that. I think the concerns you brought up in the interview are appropriate. What will happen to the health of had those insurance marketplaces and the afford ability is effectively youre punting everyone thats got a preexisting condition and that subsidizing appropriately. With respect to the idea of repeal and delay i believe this is an awful game of chicken. What is to say theyre able to get agreement in the future . Theyre not going to have budget reconciliation to use again. Theyre going to do need to fitting out is there a pathway that includes 60 votes . I believe thats unlikely senator mcconnell has tried to put together, its not a perfect bill by any means but it accomplish as lot of what republicans have been trying to do we have to ask what problems are we trying to solve and who is trying to solve them . How do you get 50 republicans in the senate . Then you get the question, what are the 50 votes trying to do . You have a caucus of relatively moderate republican senators who say theyre worried about deductibles medicaid, the health of Insurance Markets. They give a caucus of more conservative republicans senators who say theyre fundamentally about worried about the architecture. The cost would be destroying individual Insurance Markets more or less asset he said ther will no longer be the central tea of federal insurance in state markets. I believe mcconnells is the only plausible. Youre going to neat to get 50. They have a dome right now that poor people cannot afford insurance, youre looking at insurance in the 6,000 deductibles when you make 10,000, they will try to put a little bit more money but will they get to something when they look at it, when does normal people look at it . Theyre looking at something they like, folks like the senator can defend when they go home mr. Dickerson you got that and the mike lee side of it. Isnt the primary driver had republicans have been promised to repeal this and if mcconnells bill passes its not repealed they should have done the first day sign the i now repeal the obamacare act and blank underneath that with date and go on and move on. Thats where when senator sass thats something that paul ryan was talking about in march. Do something. Thathe idea of cos and rand paul will find some connection, some magic moment. Ill know how to fly. Theres one other idea which is that the democrats can join together were the republicans coming up, you have the democrats from colorado and john kasich in Ohio Republicans saying they had an idea for bipartisan healthcare reform, what are your thoughts about the prospect the prospect from that are not are that it cant happen yet. It is totally possible to imagine that happening down the road, but the mcconnell effort, which i agree with what everybody else has said which is is the only practical solution to the problem, needs to either succeed first or fail first. And i think that the problem with senator mcconnells rubic analogy, you know, theres a solution. With this, you dont know that theres a solution where you can turn the dials enough to get the 50 votes that you need. Because you have a bunch of different efforts going on. We talked about this originally to get rid of obamacare. But its simply not getting rid of obamacare. He said completely overhauling changing dismantling medicaid, which is not what people were told. Once you start doing that, you start you start to lose people on the right because youre reenforcing obamacare and undoing the medicaid that a lot of voters rely on. Theres few things to watch, you can get rid of the tax on we think three peoples income, you can add opioid money, whether that will be enough is an open question. Mr. Dickerson we need to take a break but well be right back with our panel. Look at me. You used to be the yes guy. What happened to that guy . Legacy technology can handcuff any company. But yes is here. So, youre saying we can cut delivery time . Yeah. With help from hpe, we can finally work the way we want to. With the right mix of hybrid it, everything computes. Theres an important thing to remember, which it didnt end there. When republicans went to voters and said were going to repeal and replace obamacare they said were going to take away what you dont like. I was on this show when Mitch Mcconnell was on and he said obamacare left 25 million insured, its deductibles too high. People are in bad insurance that they cannot afford oh use, they cannot pass an Obamacare Repeal and replace that gives every single one of them work. Right now those bills do increase deductibles and co pays and leading to people being insured. They will make it better. Dickerson fundamentally i think this point how difficult an issue healthcare is because all of these things have interactive. Its going to related to afford ability of healthcare. Thats what republicans should try to do. Even in their dialogue and rhetoric that needs to be the focused they get caught up if they would focus on afford ability and cbo does show this bill will have positive effects on premiums, thats where they need to be headed dickerson speaking of getting caught up, the president , was focused less on healthcare and more on press, there was this attack against host of morning joe. What do you make of all of this . Im trying to come up with the right adjective. Appalling, disappointing and not surprising. Except that this one really did seem to hit a new low in the sense that we heard the president engage in these sort of sexest tweets before where hes attacking women for looks and this was a great combination of looks and age which is getting a little personal, and we havent seen him do quite that as president. Will that change anybodys behavior . I think we heard from senator lee that it really wont. Its, im appalled by the president s behavior. Im withdrawing everything except for my support for his agenda and my colleague. Dickerson let me get your thoughts about this as a strategic move. President thinks this is a smart idea. Towards what end . I talked to a trump supporter who said were the comments idiotic . Yes, but justified . Yes, justified. Not to harp on the east coast liberal media, i was conservative talk show host in boston, i know what its like to wake up every day with a target on your back. There are millions of people who never back a man like donald trump sticking with trump. His r his numbers had huge they sense theres somebody out there who want to hurt them. From the Early Morning shows to saturday in it live under attack and this guys enemy is theirs and thats why they stick dickerson had the white house, the deputy spokesperson said basically people knew this is what they were going to get with donald trump there was a lot of this in the history and that supports michaels point, which is this is basically what people knew was a part of the package. I think weve seen this sort of behavior over and over again to expect Something Else is insane tea. What it comes down to is the president s ability to advance the conservative agenda. And is that going to be effective . Certainly healthcare is the all of that. If they cant get healthcare done, whats going to happen to tax reform, infrastructure, immigration, all these issues, and ultimately the first referendum on the president , the first real one will happen next november and well have to see whether theres a diminished able for the president to cant make his case and get away with what hes doing, if republicans cannot move an agenda. Dickerson well end it there, thanks to all of you and well be right back engthen and reharden that tooth surface, the whiter their patients teeth are going to be. Dentists are going to really want to recommend the new pronamel strong and bright. Its going to give their patients whiter teeth. Be the you who doesnt cover your moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. Be the you who shows up in that dress. Who hugs a friend. Who is done with treatments that dont give you clearer skin. Be the you who controls your psoriasis with stelara® just 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses. 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