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KQED Charlie Rose The Week April 8, 2017

Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications rose and so you began how . Understanding. Rose is it luck at all or is it Something Else . A conversation as opposed to ceremony. Rose whats the object lesson here . I just want to make records. Rose tell me the significance of the moment. This was the week President Trump ordered an airstrike on a syrian airbase. Republicans changed senate rules to confirm neil gorsuch to the Supreme Court. And the university of North Carolina mens team, the university of south carolinas womens teams are the new n. C. A. A. Basketball champions. Here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. Fun of. Funny thing about don rickles the news that he died didnt make people cry. It made them laugh. Ill tell you very truthfully, im not too crazy about you. I know that President Trump calling Vladimir Putin to offer his condolences in the wake of a deadly subway bombing. A suspected chemical weapon attack in syria. Rose President Trump retaliates against syria. I ordered a targeted military strike on the airfield in syria. We are witnessing history in the making. Senate republicans have changedly the way the chamber confirms Supreme Court nominees from the 60vote threshold to a simple majority. I leaked nothing to nobody and never have and never would. This is yet another attempt to distract attention from the russia probe. The country is safer with steve bannon floton the National Security council. Plumbers cheers . What a cheap way to get a response from a crowd. Yeah . Am i right, new york cheers and applause i really love living in d. C. All you need is love weve been to five or six museums. We went to the monster truck show. The monster truck show . Opening day, two of the best words in sports play ball. All the way back gone walk huff off, George Springer sweet caroline the North Carolina tarheels are the champions of college basketball. March mad sentence officially over and cbs returns to your regularly scheduled trump madness, already in progress. Rose it has been a benchmark week in the trump presidency. The confirmation of his nominee to the Supreme Court, a key summit meeting with the president of china, and in a major policy shift thursday, President Trump ordered a military strike on a government airbase in northern syria. 59 cruise missiles targeted syrian warplanes and facilities implicated in tuesdays deadly sarin gas attack on civilians. With me now is ian bremmer of eurasia group. He recently returned from the region. Welcome back to this program. Thank you, charlie, glad to see you. Rose set out for me where you think this is. What did it accomplish and what are the risks . What it accomplished by far its the most significant Foreign Policy move thats been louded both domestically and internationally for trump since he became president , right. The entire Foreign Policy establishment in the United States, man of dhfs never trump republican and democrat now coming out fullsupport. Also australia, new zealand, saudi arabia, israel, the u. K. , canada these are folks who have all been unnerved to various degrees about the Trump Administration coming in, and theyre now all together saying, we glad he did this. So thats clearly a plus. Rose the possible exceptions are china, russia, syria and im not sure who else. And obviously, iran. Year, thats basically it, russia being the big one because people expected and trump expected he was going to be able to develop a better relationship with russia. Thats clearly well off the table right now. And the potential for real confrontation between those two is significant. But tillerson is still going to moscow in a week, and the russians could have canceled that meeting. They chose not to. So, clearly, theyre also being tempered in the way they want to respond to all of this. The question is what has he accomplished aside from getting support for this oneoff act . In terms of the war in syria hes accomplished very little because this isnt going to change the way assad behaves or the russian or rawngz support for the syrian regime. Rose what would change the way he behaves . I mean, a threat to assads wellbeing political surexpriefl physical health. Yeah, and i mean, so youre either talking about a threat of a decapitation attack against syria and assad, which is something, given the territory hes taken and given his support from the russians and iranians, he feels quite confident thats not coming. Or if he felt that the diplomatic process, being led by the russians, suddenly really had the potential of throwing him under the bus, theres no reason to believe the russians are prepared to do that. Rose a lot of people have said that barack obama at every turn resisted doing this. I guess well now find out whether it was a correct decision by donald trump. Yes, we will, but we wont find out for a while. Rose Foreign Affairs dominated President Trumps schedule this week. It ended on thursday with an attack on a syrian airbase. Also, he hosted meetings with president cece of e egypt, and a twoday summit with president xi jinping. It was an important first meeting with both men, with both look to find Common Ground on north korea and bilateral trade. Tom donilon served as National Security adviser to president obama and played a key role in organizing past summits. For both sides, its a very important meeting. Its clearly the most important diplomatic meeting that President Trump will have had so far in his presidency, by war. I think on the chinese side, i think hell want to have a successful meeting. Hell want to show himself being able to operate effectively on the international stage. Rose in meetings like this, between the two most powerful people in the world, do they ever meet alone or is it also alzheimers necessaralso ns and notetakers there . In lots of relationships around the world that the president and the leader of the other country will meet one one, or maybe with just one other aide or a translator. Thats unusual in the in the u. S. Chinese context for lots of different reasons, including the kind its system that the chinese president represents. As you know, i negotiated the sunny land summit in 2013 between president xi and president obama. As part of that summit, we did put in place a time for pure oneonone conversation, and that did take place during the course. And its an unusual thing to take place. I think its important, but it did take place in the sunny land summit. And my understanding, charlie, is the Trump Administration is trying to have some oneonone time. Its never truly one on one, because there will have to be translators. Rose you were talking about sunny land, out in california. Palm beach is in florida. Is it better to have meetings in those kinds of environments than it is in washington or beijing . I think so. I think you need to do both, but i think it is important. You know, charlie, what you can do if you dont have it in washington is you avoid a lot of the hyperstructural aspects of it, right, you know. Its not a formal state visit. Its not it doesnt have kind of all the formalities around that, that are associated with the state visit. I do think you can get more time in conversation as opposed to ceremony. So i think it is i think it is different, and it is a good idea, frankly, to have it kind of outside the capitals with all the time you have to put in the formalities and ceremonial aspects of such a visit. So, yeah, i think its good. Rose the unfolding events in syria have overshadowed a turbulent week in the nations s capital. The senate has changed the very way it does business in order to confirm neil gorsuch to be the Supreme Court justice. In the process tmay have changed the very nature of the senate. Joining me now from washington is my colleague al hunt of bloomberg view. He conserved the congress for a number of years. Explain to us what happened and why its far reaching. The senate basically changed the rules, their own rules oa majority vote, and said that they can confirm a Supreme Court nominee by a simple majority. And that could not be they did not have to invoke cloture against a filibuster. In the past, you had to get, up until 1975, i think it was, twothirds of the senate if you wanted to break a filibuster, and since then, 60 votes. So the real the huge difference is for both future Supreme Court nominees but also for the senate. It means you can change the rules by a simple majority, and they can extend that to anything they want to now. Rose would the democrats have done the same thing . Probably. laughs . You know, charlie, ill tell you why. This is a huge change, but on the other hand, it is simply a continuum. The senate, like all political institutions, has become far more polarized. This wouldnt have happened 40 years ago because you had liberal republicans, jake jafets and Charles Percy and clifford case, and ed brooks, and conservative democrats. You dont have liberal republican senators, really. Susan colins is a moderate. And you dont have conservative democratic senators. So the parties are polarized. And the old notion, washington was supposed to have told jefferson, that the senate would be the saucer that would cool the coffee or the tea, the passions that the house sent over. The senate is still not as polarized as the house, but that difference has diminished a great deal. Rose and the vote is pretty much along, in the Supreme Court justice and other big issues, party lines. It is. I think there were three democrats that voted for judge gorsuch. And Michael Bennett of colorado, Justice Gorsuchs home state, had, i think, the most sensible suggestion for his party. He said, lets go to the republicans and say we wont filibuster if if if youll get an agreement when the next one comes up which will probably be a bigger one if you wont do that by simple majoriti basically he was told, im sorry, the base wont allow that. The dispoarnz grassroots people will go wild. Theyre still furious about what Mitch Mcconnell did to Merrick Garland last time. That would have been a sensible solution but not politically possible. Rose how much cooperation is there between Mitch Mcconnell and chuck schumer. Its better than it was between mcconnell and reid and weve only, of course, had three months. I think the message here today if it really comes to crunch time were going to hear a whole lot the next couple of weeks about bipartisan bills, bipartisan cooperation. They will get some. They wont shut down the government. But when it comes to a real crunch, i think theres now precedent that has been set. Harry reid started it four years ago with Appellate Court judges. Mitch mcconnell continued it when he sat on Merrick Garland for 10 months so there are no limits on what they can change now. Rose as the other big stories played out this week behind the scenes at the white house, a power struggle among the president s advisers appeared to be coming to a head. With me now is mike allen. He is the cofounder of the news site axeias, and were pleased to have him here. Whats interesting to me is big week for President Trump syria, china, questions about whats gog in congress, confirmation of a Supreme Court justice today. And yet, theres Something Else gog in the white house. That has huge influence. It is who has the president s ear and who does the president trust. That seems to be a competition in the white house. Charlie, you frame even the most tawdry arguments in the classiest way. Thats a great way to look at it. And thats exactly what were hearing. Charlie, we talk to congressional leaders, and theyre worried about health care, and they say, these guys call us and they talk about each other. You have this contest for basically the president s wand width, and you have two very clear camps. Steve bannon, who thinks of himself as the keeper of the trump flame that issues that got trump elected, the nationalist weighing the part that doesnt want to make deals, the part that wants to look more inward. And then on the other side, accumulating increasing power, influence Jared Kushner, ivanka trump, gary cohen, the president s economic adviser. One way it was framed for me, charlie, was confrontation versus collaboration. And the collaboration wing is winning in part because the president doesnt like thats the Jared Kushner wing. Yes. Rose sometimes called the new yorker. And this is partly, charlie, because the president doesnt like the results hes been getting. Rose is it possible that the president will bring in new people . And if he does, who might it be . For any of these roles . Yeah, so, i think the president , if you were to bring in new people, would be bring in somebody that he thinks of as a peer. Some of the names that have been out there, people that might come in, kevin mccarthy, the number two House Republican leader. The House Majority leader is a republican of california. If youre a republican in california, youre probably not going to run statewide. Hes someone the president has a very close relationship with. Hhe was an early endorser in congress, and the president continues to talk to him a lot on his cell phone. Gary cohen, now the National Economic adviser. Eventually, there will be a new chief of staff. Who know knows when that will come . He is somebody who would be consider forward that. And to washington, wayne barman, who has been involved in eight president ial campaigns, was an assistant secretary of commerce under president bush 41. David urban, the former chief of staff to the late senator arlen specter, got credit for an upset win for President Trump in pennsylvania. He is also someone close cell phone pal with the president. So what were seeing in all those are the president looking for people that he has a personal relationship with. When he might make a change or what change hes going to make, somebody said to me that hes definitely asking for advice. Things are definitely moving around. Will he pull the trigger . You dont know. But its something the president is thinking about. Theyre continuing to talk about it in maralago this weekend, after the xi summit, most of the senior staff, including nearly every person we mentioned is down at maralago, and theyre going to have conversations about this and the agenda ahead still feel like your man rose john mayer has won seven Grammy Awards over the course of his career, and along the way he has shared the stage with b. B. King, carlos santana, and eric clapton. He came to, that yo new york tk while on tour for his first album in four years. It was called the search for everything. When i first came up with the rivot guitar i said this is new. Im not interested that its good or bad. Im interested that its new. This would have been my seventh record. And youre looking for ways to still innovate, like a magician in a warehouse. Going ive climbed out of the locked box, and ive gone under water. Whats the next trick, you know . And i thought for having been thought of in the same sort of category as blue eyed soul for such a long time, that there was something unique about the robotic kind of cinco paigz, and then the lyric. It felt to me ever every oncea while as a soangwriter, you get a lyric and you know its great the title still feel like your man and you immediately get worried that somebody else has done it still feel like your man still feel like your man still feel like your man still feel like your man i still feel like your man the thing that follows a great idea is intense fear that it has already been settled on. And you do a search on spotify or wikipedia and you go, still feel like your man. Its like a trademark search. Not that you couldnt write a song with the same title i dont like it. And it comes open. Rose clear. Clear. And then we go for it. Rose you go for it meaning you have a title. D the exphiewsk then youll dog the lyrics. Most of the time i get the best result when the exphiewsk lyrics happen at the same time. They both climb up either side of the hill. Thats when its really, really good. A lot of times i have music thats sitting in a bin. Fewer times than most i have lyrics that are sitting in a bin. And every once in a while, you get the title that ha has chords and words and sounds dripping out of them. Rose right. This is this idea of being as absolutely beautiful as you can be. Like, along, let whoever sort of intelligentia rock outlets and journalists say that its light or its bland. Im going to be as beautiful as i can be about being sad. Rose right. I do, and ive come to terms with this, you get to a certain age and you go, this is what i do. I write love songs. So its very tricky. I would love to be able to write put these songs out in a complete vacuum where people can think about these songs only in their own context. And hopefully if ive done a good enough job of writing i can. Can. Q. You said once i want to leav. Im a writer. Im a writer more than anything else. Nothing brings me more joy than writing. Rose freida pento made hir acting debut in 2008 in slum dog millionaire. This year she is starring in the showtime miniseries gurilla. It is a love story set against the backdrop of london in the 1970s. She is one half of the revolutionary couple, jazz and marcus, who we follow through the entire series. And it

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