Overdiagnose, are we going to start invading in the body in a way we hadnt expected to. Rose we conclude with Barbara Finamore talking about the United States, chienar and Climate Control. Today in the United States the Solar Industry alone employs roughly twice as many people as oil, kohlhepp and Natural Gas Industries combined. So its not really going to grow jobs. In fact, i think the main impact of what trump has announced is that he is going to put the u. S. In daker of danger of losing out on the biggest new Global Energy the big new Global Industry of any kind which is the transition to clean energy. Rose ft interview, medicine and all of that when we continue. Fuming for charlie rose is provided by the following. And by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and Information Services worldwide. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. Rose we begin this evening with the bomenting today in st. Petersburg russia, at least 11 people were killed after a bomb exploded on a subway. A separate shrapnel filled explosive device was later found and disarmed at another subway station. There was no immediate claim of responsibility. Russian president Vladimir Putin was in st. Petersburg for the day and said that terrorism is being considered as a possible cause. For more on ta developing story we turn to coverage on the cbs evening news. The blast was Strong Enough to build out the subway doors. Some passengers pulled others off the train. But some died on the spot. Amateur video shows the chaos and shock underground as dazed commuters tried to figure out what had happened. The explosion took place between stations but the train carried on through the tunnel to the next stop where the wounded poured up and out on to the streets. Investigators say they found a second bomb at another station which they diffused. It was hidden under a fire extinguisher and they say had it gone off the blast would have been even more powerful than the first. President Vladimir Putin speaking in his hometown of st. Petersburg today said investigators would pursue all leads. Islamic extremists from the north caucuses have attacked russian public transport before. Their most recent subway attack was in 2010 when two suicide bomb oars killed at least 40 people in the moscow metro. But sis then russia has joined in syrias messy civil war and that may have put it squarely in the crosshairs of isis. Rose we begin this evening with politics, President Trump will meet with chinese president xi jinping at maralago resort this thursday and friday. St t is their first meeting and a crucial test for the leaders of the worlds two largest est economies. On sunday the Financial Times published an extensive interview with President Trump. Among the revelations was the willingness with the white house to act unilaterally with north caria in the absence of cooperation from beijing. Joining me is gillian tett, the u. S. Managing editor of the Financial Times. She was one of three editors from the paper who sat down with President Trump in ot val office on in the oval office on friday afternoon. This is the coverage theyre giving it. Look at this. Well, it is the president of the the United States. You dont often get a chance to speak to him and were grateful that we did. It made headlines around the world because of what he said first about north korea. A question you asked . I did ask the question about north korea because i think its critically important. We spent much of the last two years worrying about syria, worrying about iran, worrying about russia. So understandable reasons. But what is happening right now in north korea is critical. And frankly, it needs to be talked about. Rose well, i mean, are they talking about it . Do they seem to be not only talking about it but worrying about it. Everyone you talk to, as you know, says the key to north korea is you have to go through china. The key to dealing with north korea is indeed china. Because about 70 of the energy is thought to come from china. And if they turn off the taps and north korea will have a problem. Unfortunately t does look as if some of chinas leverage of north korea recently has diminished a little bit. But a key part. Rose and the reverse is true. They seem to be less willing to do everything north korea says or wants. Certainly at the moment china is left willing to do everything north korea wants it does look as if relations are deteriorating a bit. The recent assassination that took place in north korea was quite symbolic. Because it means most of the chineseeducatedded officials inside north korea are no longer within the innercircle. But nobody can have any doubt that the u. S. Administration believes that china is critical to trying to reign in north korea and so its going to be absolutely center stage of the meeting in maralago on thursday and friday. Along with trade and south china. Along with trade and south china. Because the critical thing to understand is that increasingly people are saying that these issues shouldnt be looked at in isolation. On friday the white house released news about its big trade review. And certainly theyre having tough conversations with china about the trade issue. And theyve been beating the drum on that quite a bit. But the question people are asking is could the white house use the trade talks as part of a bargaining chip to try and get some grand deal over the korean peninsula. Hard to see at the moment but certainly that is in discussion right now. Back to north korea. So what did you ask the president . I asked the president whether he was keshed about north korea, whether he thought they could be some kind of discussion, meaningful discussion. And if the chinese were not willing to play ball, what exactly were they going to do . And he said . He indicated that he was. Rose he indicated or he said. He said that he was certainly going to raise it with the chinese. That he hoped they would play ball. And essentially be cooperative. And work together. He said that if that happens, that could be very good, dropping hints about the trade issue. And that if it doesnt, it was going to be bad. And he indicated, or he said that the u. S. Would go it alone. Later on he also had. Rose when he said it, did he say thats all im going to say . That was always a concern. He said they would go it alone. Did he not indicate whether that meant militarily, sanctions or anything else because frankly, i dont think he knows. But he is certainly saber rattling. A lot of people would say could the u. S. Go it alone. Could the u. S. Take military action to contain a Nuclear Threat from north korea. The answer is at the moment, not easily or not without a huge loss of life on the korean peninsula. Could the u. S. Use sanctions to reign in north korea, well, its been trying to do that for some time, its not worked. So there arent any easy options for the u. S. To go it alone. Rose does this president believe that north korea, if it has icbm missiles that can deliver a Nuclear Warhead to the United States, is his biggest Foreign Policy challenge . Does he know that . Does he say that . Does he believe that . Well, i would hazard a guess that until recently President Donald Trump wouldnt have been able to locate pyongyang on a map. But i think he certainly does understand the gravity of the issue. And one very important detail about what is going on around the white house right now is that the working on a review of the problems of north korea and the options for a response, is actually accelerated it to make sure the review is in the president s hands before the meeting in maralago. And in fact i believe it was probably handled friday. And we also interviewed katie mcfarland, the deputy. And she made it clear that she now thinks, as well as the nse now think it is entirely possible that north korea will have an interkonl ballistic miss will Nuclear Warheads that could hit the west coast of america by the end of President Trumps first term if the current tra jectory goes on unchecked that is a scary thought. I was in San Francisco and los angeles last week. Rose a very scary thought, that is why president obama said to him your biggest k458 eng will be north korea. The thing i find amazing i was in San Francisco ands will ang less last week and i said to people in silicon valley, boom boom sunshine, everything is wonderful, i said to a couple of people, are you worried about north korea. And i might as well have said are you worried about planet pluto. I dont think people have understood the threat at all. Rose and did you talk about a onechina policy . We talked about not so much one china policy. We talked about the wider question of the asian region. But we didnt get into details about what his policy would be. The most intriguing comment he made during the interview was, and i quote, that its possible there could be a very big deal, that there could be some kind of bigger deal. I would not be at all surprised if we did something that would be very dramatic and good for both countries and i hope so. Rose that sounds like a grand bargain that hes thinking about. You can dismiss that and say thats donald trump, offthecuff statement. Or you can say that actually, if you want to be optimistic, the very severity of the north korean threat means that not only the u. S. Is concerned right now but also china is pretty concerned too. Maybe just maybe, this could be the issue that breaks a logjam and forces these two huge countries to recognize they need to work together. Not just on the immediate issue of north korea, but on a wider resolution in the south china sea, in the korean pen insurance will and maybe on the trade front. Rose and also climate. And also climate. Now it sounds hard to believe. And frankly i find it hard to believe. But there is a 7 point plan floating around which would try to bring about some kind of wider bargain across the korean peninsula, probably wouldnt be acceptable to the japanese, let alone south korea be koreans but it is floating around. So when donald trump says i would not be at all surprised if we didnt do something that would be very dramatic, maybe he has seen that plan. Rose what was his overall demeanor . Did he was he calm . Soft spoken. The president s overall demeanor seemed to be very positive. Very cheerful. He was in a good mood. He was keen to be charming. But also firm. And you know. Rose keen to be charming, that is a british expression. Actually, we are he has a spot for the button on the desk which looks rather uncanily. Rose friday afternoon. Looked like something out of dr. Strange love, box on the desk, we looked at the button and he pushes the button and he calls up a diet coke. He had made jokes sometimes about so we he doesnt dring diet cola. So we had diet cokes. He showed us a picture of jackson. He showed us around the office. He was very keen to, you know, be hospitable and gracious and share good wil. Rose what do you make of his presidency so far . His presidency has certainly taken the rest of the world aback. It has been unconventional. Its been often frustrating and baffling. Its been exhausting as a journalist to cover it it because were dealing with tweets at all hours of day and night. However, as we wrote in our piece today, he is an imper yas president. Hes an unconventional president. But there is a method in the madness, we think. Rose what is the method. The method in the madness is really two of three things. First to enable him to connect with the voters that he thinks brought him into office. Secondly, it is to if you like destabilize or surprise the people who he regards as his rivals, i will say that includes the media, and thirdly, its to show that he is going to be unconventional. He wants to be a different type of president. Rose so he believes in chaos and disruption . I dont know whether he had ever sat down and created a philosophy of chaos and philosophy but certainly his instincts are to be unconventional. We asked him, or rather i asked him whether he regretted any of these tweets that have been coming out. He said he doesnt do regrets. But he also said hes convinced that the tweets won him the election. The tweets are essentially whattive goes him the power of the presidency and hes not going to stop any time soon. Rose how did it win the election . Basically. Rose being disruptived. It enabled him to connect with the public. At one point in the interview he turned around and he said tell me how many followers ive got now on twitter. And they came back and said a hundred million. Then corrected him and said no, 101 million. And he was very pleased. Rose why do you think hes still sensitive to any questions about winning the election and constantly refers to how well he did and all of that . Do you have any psychological insight on that. Actually as we were writing the piece he opened the sper view saying i won, you didnt. And you know, it is an indication of his mentality. I would say he puts the media in the camp of people with whom he has been battling over the last couple of years. I think he still feels the need to assert his position. And again, many people would say that is part of the unconventional strategy. Some people would say that shows a man who doesnt feel secure in the the job yet. Others would say well, actually, that is just being human and part of what has enabled him to connect with voters, is the fact that he is a noholds barred, tell it how it is, very, very human president who changes his mind, says what he is el tooing, in a pretty unfiltered way. Rose do you believe, because this is in your arena, do you believe that the economic progress that we have seen especially the market, will continue . Thats a very interesting question, charlie. Because during the course of the interview, we asked him about what history usms were, we did speak to a large a writer of people in the white house. And they said well, confidence is surging. Stock mar kelts are up. Basically the mood has changed dramically. And people in the white house regard that as a strong sign of what they have achieved. They could be right. Maybe theres go to be a selfreinforcing upsurge of animal spirits that actually go get the economy growing again. But one thing is very interesting right now and its something that is worrying economists. There is a big split between what they call the hard data and the soft data. The soft data is about sentedment, about Consumer Confidence and business confidence, and that is definitely rising. The hard data is about what is happening. Rose because they think there will be tax cuts and less regulation. People are fed up of too many regulations the last several years and worried about quantitative easing. The hard data is not nearly as optimistic. That may be a time laps, maybe the hard data will improve as confidence feeds lieu. Rose and the hard data is simply. Things like auto sales we had today, gdp, retail send spending. None of these figures have been optimistic, that positive. They have been okay, but not great. So the question people are asking is is this just a time lag effect and when businesses and consumers see President Trumps policies actually coming through, the actual underlying data will improve dramically too. Or is it the case that people have drunk the koolaid around the presidency, and theres going to be a very nasty bought of disappointment going footer. Rose there is this idea still, well, we got, we being everybody, got his election wrong and therefore you cant really say that anything is bad now because in the end, like the election, hell prevail. At one point in the interview President Trump pointed out that, you know, he predicted brexit, predicted all kinds of things. And he has been more correct in his prediption predictions than many other people including the media. And certainly the white house thinks that they are on the the right track, that Many American voters with them. Business confidence is rising, and their strategy is pork working. Rose there is also this which they obviously know. He does feel a strong connection to the people who elected him. Or at least he gives expression to that. Yet some of the things that hes doing, the proposed budget, and health care, help, i mean hinder, hurt, take away things that very constituency has considered important to their lives. I could not agree more, charlie. Because there is a par a docks. He has been paradox, he has been elected as a man of the people. Is he not a man of the people, he is a billionaire as he keeps telling us. Is he not behaving as somebody without wants to put the peoples interests first in terms of the poorest people, in the sense that, you know, the tax cuts will end up favoring the rich, not the poor. His decision about healthcare reforms are things that actually would not help many of his voters. Rose people in his cabinet and the principal advisors are all very rich as we saw an article over the weekend. Extraordinary paradox. You can be cynical and say that is one reason he keeps stressing the tweets. He keeps talking like somebody from the people. Rose how about the specific tweet about president obama wanting to, or having been part of wiretapping trurch tower. We didnt discuss that particular one. Rose you didnt raise that particular one. No. Rose was that on purpose or. No, its because you go into an interview, and frankly, i mean we talked about the tweets. He said at one stage if you are going to make hundreds of tweets you are going to make a now and then we were about to talk about and started on north korea and frankly right now issues like north korea and china are so important on the agenda, that as with any interview, you go where the conversation goes. Rose he faces a congress now in which he has said hes going to take on the Freedom Caucus. Exactly. One the very interesting details we asked him about was what about healthcare reform. Is it de