Transcripts For KTVU FOX News Sunday With Chris Wallace 2014

KTVU FOX News Sunday With Chris Wallace May 18, 2014

Brain episode. Shes strong, doing great. As far as i can tell, shes in better shape than i am. He joins our sunday panel to explain his comments. Plus, growing allegations that veterans die, waiting for treatment at va hospitals across the country. Isnt there evidence here of criminal wrongdoing, that is falsifying records, false statements to the federal government . Thats a crime. It should be, yes. Outrage over a secret waiting list. But how widespread are the problems . And who knew about them . Well ask the leading whistleblower, dr. Sam foote and ryan galluci of the vfw. And scott reed on the u. S. Chamber of commerces multimillion dollar stake in the 2011 election. If you Say Something stupid were not going to support you. If it crosses the line and is disrespectful, were out. All right now on fox news sunday. Hello again from fox news in washington. This week, we were fascinated to learn that former Vice President cheney and his wife, lynne, have embarked on a road show, where he interviews her about her new critically acclaimed biography, James Madison, a life revealed. Well we invited them to sit down with us to discuss a wide range of topics. In their first joint interview since leaving office. Vice president cheney, mrs. Cheney, welcome back to fox news sunday. Good morning, chris. Good to see you, chris. Karl rove talked about Hillary Clinton having sustained a traumatic brain injury. The clinton campfired back that shows just how desperate the republicans are this year. Mr. Vice president , do you think that Hillary Clintons health and age are fair game . Well, i think any president ial candidate or Vice President ial candidate will have to answer questions about their health. I wouldnt want to prejudge mrs. Clintons health. I dont know anything about it. Certainly i felt responsible to be open about my health when i was Vice President and a candidate and i think that will be expected of anybody who runs as Vice President or president. What do you think about benghazi . Do you think she did anything wrong and should she be held responsible for the events surrounding that attack . She was secretary of state at the time that it happened. She was one of the first in washington to know about it. I think she clearly bears responsibility for whatever the state department did or didnt do with respect to that crisis. I do think its a major issue. I dont think weve heard the last of it yet. And i would expect that she will be held accountable during the course of the campaign. Mrs. Cheney, you said recently that you thought the clintons must be pleased that vanity fair magazine ran an article written by mon ica lewinsky. Why on earth do you think they would want to see lewinsky back in the public eye . Do you think the scandal is a legitimate issue for Hillary Clinton in 2016 . Well, i was really paying the clintons a large compliment. I was saying how clever they are politically. And that it seemed to me that if you had something that might come up during the campaign that was damaging, it was very smart to get it out of the way early. So, thats my case and im staying with it. All right plchlt Vice President , lets turn to the standoff in ukraine. How do you think president obama has handled russian president putin both before and now during this crisis . Well, i think you have to look beyond that most immediate crisis. Obviously, we have to deal with that. There has developed over the years of the Obama Administration, i think, a sense on the part of others that we have a weak government. We saw, for example, the request from putin president obama withdrew the plans for a Missile Defense Program Based in poland and the czech republic. He has demonstrated repeatedly, i think that he, in fact, can be pushed around, if you will, by the putins. And i dont think mr. Putin has any hesitation at all from the standpoint of the american president of changing his course of action. I think he has taken advantage of this opportunity when he thinks we have a weak president to try to restore some of the old soviet union. I would like to point out that James Madison was one of the first to observe that the appearance of weakness invites evil doing on the part of our adversaries. It was also the case in madisons time, to go back to the lewinskies, if thats okay the lewinsky scandal. Theyve gone on forever. Theyre damaging. A Alexander Hamilton had to admit he had an affair. I hear people saying its worse now than its ever been. Actually, not so. Its about the same. Very clever way to get to the book. I promise well get to the madison book in a moment. Promises, promises. The fact is that when you were in the white house, russia invaded the former soviet republic of georgia and took over two provinces so putin felt he could take you guys on too. Well, he obviously did at the time. These were two breakaway provinces that did not any longer want to be part of georgia. What we did at the time was, i think, a more robust response. We flew in a brigade of georgian soldiers that had been involved, supporting our efforts in iraq, flew them back in to georgia to try to provide some support there as well as sent u. S. Ships into the black sea and provided various kinds of supplies. The situation is reminiscent in the sense that you have somebody, break up the old soviet union, warsaw pact. It wasnt. It was the end of the cold war and it was a great benefit. Now hes trying to reverse some of those basic developments. Mrs. Cheney i promise were going to get to the book in a moment i want to ask one last Current Events question to the Vice President. Syria, the situation continues to get worse, the mediator just quit, the rebels leave their strongholds and the assad regime is believed to have used chemical weapons a dozen times after president obama decide not to attack the assad regime in syria. What is the impact of all of this, do you think, both in syria and the u. S. Overall Foreign Policy . I just, in march, chris, traveled the area. I covered a lot of places in the area where i have longterm relationships back in the days where we were doing desert storm. Everyone is very concerned with u. S. Policy. They hold up the syrian situation as a classic example. The u. S. Cant be trusted. The president gave a lot of talk, drew a red line. Said he was going to act and in the end didnt act and left them high and dry. The syrian situation has significantly undermined our credibility in the region. I think its also the kind of thing that leads putin and others to believe this is the time for adventurism on their part. Mrs. Cheney, the New York Times, of all newspapers, said in a review of your book, it was one of the best biographies of James Madison thats ever been written. You say that madison has been underappreciated for a long time as one of the main writers of the constitution, bill of rights and starting our First Political party. Well, thats all true. If you just Pay Attention to madison, as i do, youll find when people begin to list the founders, he may get tagged on at the end but is often not mentioned, which is really too bad, since he was the primary architect of the constitution. That was probably his finest achievement. His mind is still present in our world today when the Supreme Court has a decision to make about whether the police stopping you for a Traffic Violation can search your cell phone, they will re krchcur to Fourth Amendment, which madison drafted. The Fourth Amendment deals with citizens not being exposed to unreasonable search and seizure. His ideas are very much part of their lives today and i think for that reason alone, he merits further study. On a more personal level, you say that one of the reasons that you were drawn to writing about James Madison is because of all of his health problems, epilepsylike seizures, which in a sense paralleled your husbands health conditions. I dont think i said it paralleled dicks problems but on some level i suppose i lived for many years with a politician who did have to overcome health challen challenges. It may have, on some level, attracted me to write about madison, who did have to deal with a mild form of epilepsy. Mr. Vice president , we always wonder, how is your health . And as someone who was a central player in governing for eight years in the white house, as you look back and as youve read your wifes book, what do you see as the central parts of his legacy that have endured today . Well, first of all, my health is great. I just did the twoyear checkup. The transplant has been absolutely flawless. Its been perfect and im in great shape. In terms of madisons impact, lynne touched on it a bit. But clearly when we get into major debates over constitutional prerogatives, executive and legislative and so forth, we are dealing with the madison legacy. And so much of what were trying to do now in the recent administrations, in this one especially, say, for example, the war powers act, madison played a major role when he changed the draft in the constitution from congress having the authority to make war to congress having the authority to declare war. That was enormous. It basically transferred the authority to conduct war, be the commander in chief, to the executive and the president and, fortunately, that happened. We lived with that ever since. I think thats far preferable than what was originally intended in the first draft. Madison had, in fact, watched the congress try to direct war during the revolution. And it was a complete mess with the congress authorizing troops to march here and march there, depending sometimes on how near they were tomeeting in philadelphia. I think thats the reason he leapt in at the constitutional convention. Finally, well be electing a new president in 2016. Mr. Vice president , youve done this with me before. I want to play a lightning round. Quick questions, quick answers on some of the potential candidates. Senator rand paul. Senator paul said last month he thought you might have a potential conflict of interest during the invasion of iraq during 2003 because you had worked for haliburton and the defense industry. How do you respond to that . Before i took the job as Vice President i totally severed all my ties with haliburton, had no communication with them, and kept an arms length relationship. He is obviously not familiar with the facts. Any thoughts of jeb bush . He is a great guy, been a good governor. I think he is seriously considering it. That certainly is another one that ought to be on the perspective list of candidate. Finally, chris christie, your thoughts on him. I met chris. I like him. I dont know what hes going to do. He hasnt made himself clear. I have not committed to anybody and dont plan to for some time. Mrs. Cheney . Ditto. Well, i see im not going to get much out of this. Thank you both so much for talking with us. Mrs. Cheney, good luck with the book. Thank you, chris. Coming up, karl rove stirs up quite a controversy when he questions Hillary Clintons health. Karl joins our sunday group. Plus, what would you like to ask the panel about clinton in 2016 . Go to facebook or twitt twitter foxnewssunday and we may use your question on the air. Get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems technology. Shipping and manufacturing. 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Senior political analyst, usa columnist powers, the aforementioned karl rove and political analyst. Karl, you have the media and even president clinton talking about Hillary Clintons health. Mission accomplished . Look, lets put this into context. I was asked, is she running . My brain says yes. My gut says this is a more complicated decision and i cited this 30 days of dealing with a very Serious Health issue. She comes home from the czech republic. She stops in belfast on the afternoon of the 7th of december, 2012. She is seen in public. And the next time we see her in public is back at work, the 7th of january. We see her briefly on the night of january 2nd when shes leaving the hospital, but during that period of time, she has a virus, she has a concussion. They announce on the 15th of december shes fallen and hit her head and has suffered a concussion. Were not going to tell you what day or even where it was. Finally they say admit it was at her home. On the 30g9 of december, sunday, the 30th of december, she goes in for a routine follow up and they announce she has a blood clot and they wont say for 24 hours when and where it is. Then they issue a 119word statement that takes about a minute to readout loud that says it was between let me ask you a question. Do you really have doubts about her physical capability to run for president . No, i dont. But it would not be human if you were to sit there and say i had a serious brain injury and i had a her husband the other day told us something we didnt know. Took her six months, he said, to get back. Well pick up on that in a minute. I remember john mccains opponents raising the issue as whether or not he had gone a little bit nuts when he was in that vietnam prison. In 1988 there were questions about Michael Dukakis Mental Health and Ronald Reagan saying he wouldnt pick on an invalid. Is this just hardball politics . Look, im not questioning her health. What im questioning is whether or not its a done deal that shes running. And she would not be human if she did not take this into consideration. Shell be 69 at the time of the 2016 election. If she gets elected two terms, shell be 77. I loved president clintons comments the other day. Lets remember, this is a guy who ran for reelection by savaging bob dole. Bob dole looked like methusala in the campaign ads. Tired, old, worn out. His Deputy Campaign manager refers to dolby saying he is disconnected and dysfunctional. I love being elected by bill clinton saying this is off limits. You cant talk about her health or her age. He savaged also no, no, wait. I have to bring the others into this. You have to play well with others. No, i dont. President clinton, while defending his wife, also talked about the fact that he had a Serious Health issue. They went to all this trouble to say that she had staged what was a terrible concussion that required six months of very serious work to get over. Terrible concussion, six months of serious work, given what clinton said about his wife, was karl over the line . If it is really just about whether or not she would run, thats not over the line. I think anybody would say that. People who know her, are close to her would say thats a consideration in whether she runs or not. I think the way, at least, it was reported is it seemed that her brain her faculties were being questioned which is really, i think, unfair to question that. I dont think theres anything to suggest that you cant have the type of health issue that she had and go on to be perfectly functioning. We have no reason to believe theres anything wrong with her brain. I havent seen anything that suggests theres anything wrong with her brain. She certainly is fit enough, if she can run a campaign, to be president. We asked you questions for the panel and got this on facebook from dale k. Robinson. If republicans want to win against hillary, they need to leave her health and Monica Lewinsky out of the debate. Attacking her there j you have the makes her the victim and gains votes for her. Is dale right . I dont know if thats true. The fact was to raise the issue whereupon her husband comes out and says what he says and the first part of what you played of bill clinton was reported everywhere. The part where he said that she underwent what i guess was six months of physical therapy to refer from the concussion. A terrible concussion sfwh a terrible concussion was new news. Of course, it was widely overlooked. So i think that that, even more than what karl said, places her health as an issue and a legitimate issue. If someone has a terrible concussion and undergoes six months of treatment and theres a blood clot near the brain, the whole thing needs to be laid out and explained. She may be just fine, but it is a legitimate issue to raise about her. We saw plenty of outrage from both the left and the right over karl roves statements. Clintons spokesman said karl rove has deceived the country for years, but there are no words for this level of line. And former Republican House speaker Newt Gingrich said i am totally opposed and deeply offended by karl roves comments. Do you share their outrage . I think this was a

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