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California, and tony perkins, president of the Family Research council. Then there are now just 23 days until the Midterm Elections, with washingtons balance of power at stake. Well break down the key races with youre Election Night team, karl rove and joe trippi. Plus is president obamas battle plan working . Let me tick through these. Some of the successes weve seen on the ground from the Iraqi Security forces. Our sunday panel weighs in, and our power player of the week, taking you inside the white house like never before. Can drag around to see the entire state dining room. Up on the ceiling, look at the chandelier. All right now on Fox News Sunday. Hello again from fox news in washington. A Health Care Worker at the dallas hospital that treated the ebola patient who died, has now tested positive for the virus, but that preliminary test will now be checked by the centers for Disease Control in atlanta. Lets get the latest on this and rampedup screening at u. S. Airports from fox news correspondent leon vitter. Leland . Theres still a lot of questions to be answer ed including how this worker came into contact with the patient and how those officials in dallas say they were ready for this. This Health Care Worker had been until the selfmonitoring regimen prescribed by the cdc. The entire process from the patientsself monitoring to the admission into isolation took less than 90 minutes. The patients condition is stable. The patient reported a lowgrade fever friday night, isolated and tested. This will be the first case of ebola treated from start to finish in the United States, which could give doctors insight, where records show that they badly bungled the first case. Thomas eric duncan had arrived in the United States without a fever, but with ebola. The Associated Press reports that he went to the emergency room in dallas with a high fever of 103. Despite that, doctors sent him home a few hours later. On the 28th, he returned in far worse shape. Soon official put family and friends of the liberian man in isolation for fear they contracted the virus as well. Now, 15 days into the 21 days of possible incubation, other than the Health Care Worker, no one has reported a fever or other symptoms, but the fear remains that the 150 or so travelers arriving daily to the United States from the hot zone in west africa could also be infected with ebola. Pictures provided by customs and Border Protection show their officers wearing protective gear while checking the temperature of and interviewing those arriving from the hot zone in west africa. By later this week, about 140 passengers a day will get checked at the five gateway airports equipped with screeners and quarantine rooms. In dallas right now they are not only trying to treat this Health Care Worker, but also isolate those the person had contact with and try to stop any more infections. Chris . Leland, thank you. When this week began samesex marriage was legal in 19 states. Now because of the Supreme Courts decision not to review the ruling of several appeals court. Samesex marriage may soon be legal in 25 states. We want to drill down into the merits with two top advocate leading conservative ted olson represented the plaintiffs in the virginia case, and is coauthor of redreaming the dream, the case for Marriage Equality. Tony perkins is president of the Family Research council. Gentlemen, welcome back to Fox News Sunday. Mr. Olson, why do you think the Supreme Court decided not to intervene in these cases, and can we take from that theres now a majority in the court who feels there is a constitutional right to samesex marriage . No one knows what goes on in the United States Supreme Court when theyre deciding to take a case or how they decide the case, but what the Supreme Court was looking at on monday when it rendered its decision not to review these pending cases is a record of Something Like 25 federal judges at the District Court and at the appeal level which had consistently ruled that same sex marriage bans were unconstitutional. I think the justices saul an overwhelming trend in the same direction and said thought that the federal courts were handling this issue in an appropriate and proper way and decided not to weigh in. Mr. Perkins let me go a little further than ted olson, because he has to argue before the court, if the majority felt there was no constitutional right actually it takes a minoritity to review a case why would they make a nonruling in this case that would allow thousands more to have samesex marriage. Ted is the expert on the you still have i think the effect here is what we need a back alley type roe v. Wade decision by letting the lower courts do their evil bidding. Go back to 1973 when the court imposed abortion on the nation, it was to resolve the issue 41 later. That issue is now a political issue in every election from the president on down. This issue is not going away despite what the court may say. I have to allow you to responsible back alley roe v. Wade . I think the anotions is to the decision that struck down bans on interrachelle marriage. We now understand that was a right decision and right for america. Over 59 of americans now believe that Marriage Equality should be the law of the land, individuals should be allowed to get married to the person that they love. The individuals involved in these cases have been together for decades. They now want to be a part of the community, and be part of our society by marrying and living with the people that they love. Let me pick up on one of the central concerns that people have about all of this. In all 16 of the states that because of the Supreme Courts nondecision, may not have say legal samesex marriage, there was a ban either approved by the state legislature or poplar referendum. Mr. Olson, you have a long record of opposing what you call or what people call judicial activism. Here is what senator ted cruz said this week. Take a look. We shouldnt have unelected judges striking down our marriage laws, trying to impose their Public Policy notion on the state of texas and on states where the elected legislatures have made the decision to preserve and protect traditional marriage. Question why should judges overrule the demonstrated will of the people either through referendum or through state legislature action. We have a constitution and bill of rights precisely because we want protections from majority rule. When the majority in a legislature or a popular vote take away rites of individuals protected by the bill of rights, then we have an independent judiciary to rectify that situation. Its happened again and again and again throughout this countrys history. We have an independent judiciary to protect individuals like gay and lesbian citizens who only want respect, decency and equality along with the rest of us. Mr. Perkins, let me go back to the case where there were bans on interracial marriages. The Supreme Court simply ruled those bans were unconstitutional apples and oranges. Mr. Olson says and its an argument, we dont get to vote on the bill of rights. Why is it apples and oranges . Because were talking about an arbitrary boundary created by man between the races. That doesnt exist in nature. Theres nothing in nature to say thats normal. But to go back, this is unprecedented. Voters in two thirds of the states have affirmatively gone out to protect of definition of marriage. This is the only time in a period of two decades where voters and have affirmatively embraced the definition, and now you have the courts overturning that, robbing the people of their vote and their vote. What we see here, i believe, is that the court has lit a fuse to a powder keg culturally that will have ramifications for years to come in this nation. Lets talk about the merits of this. Obviously different people have different views. What is your single, strongest argument against allows samesex marriage. I would like to ask ted, what is the purpose of marriage . The purpose of marriage is what the Supreme Court has said 14 times. Its a fundamental right that involves privacy, association, liberty, and being with the person you love and forming a part of the community and being treated equally with the rest of society. If you look at people under the age of 30, youre talking about a powder keg . People under the age of 30, like 80 of people agree well, that is true. Wait a minute. You answered his question. Now whats your answer to him . First off, marriage is not to affirm adults, its for the protection of children. If love is the only factor, where you do you draw the boundary . What the Supreme Court said in the cases that it decided last year involving the defense of marriage case, striking that down, is that children do matter. There are thousands and tens of thousands of children in samesex house holds. They deserve the same respect and decency to that others have. We know children do best with a mom and dad. Thats why the policies have preferred marriage and given benefits to it. If love is the factor, what boundaries are there . You want the sky to fall because two People Living next door to you what court after court after court has said, that allowing people of the same sex to marry the person they love, to be part of the community and be treated equally, does no damage to heterosexual marriage, and court after court after court has said children living in a samesex relationship do as well or better than people in other communities. The court doesnt study this social let me ask you, what are the boundaries, though . If its just love, what are the boundaries . What are you suggesting . Polygamy, people will be marrying their pets . I didnt say that. If we remove the natural established boundaries for marriage, the union of a man and woman, we have removed those boundaries thor guardrails. Theres no arbitrary boundary. You and your wife live happily in this house, theres a samesex couple living here. Whats the damage to you . Lets talk about that. Lets talk about the wedding vendors that have been put out of business. Im not talking about that. Thats a different issue. No, its its a difficult issue. Im asking you whats the impact on you on and your family. Nigh whirn all of a sudden in school are taught values and morals that contradict what i teach as a parent at home. Thats happening already across the country in those states that have recognized and forced samesex marriage on the states. Lets talk about aaron and melissa klein, a bakery in oregon, forced out of business, forced to pay 450,000 in fines, simply because they didnt want to participate in a samesex marriage. Well get to that in a seconds, but the argument that this damages of perkins next to them . Everyone who has talked about this says theres no couple that will decide to get divorced or not to get married or not to rain children just because the cup 8 next to them is treated equally and with respect and decency under our constitution. That is why we have courts. The same argument mr. Perkins was made was made with respect to interracial marriages in 1967. 30 some states at one point prohibited interracial marriages. Talk about the color of the skin . People were making the same arguments. Marriage is wrong with people of different races. We have to stop that. When the Supreme Court finally acted, 16 states were still prohibiting interrachelle marriages. As far as the marriage vendors, the people in the flower business or in the in the cake business or whatever it happens to be, we have a civil rights law that is say if youre going to engage in commerce youre not going to discriminate against people on the basis of their religion, sex or race. Thats a simple solution to the problem. Massachusetts driving them out of business . Massachusetts allowed samesex marriage ten years ago. Nobody has been put out of marriage its a canard. Im going to give you the final word. In your answer id like you to talk about what role you think this will play in the 2016 president ial battle. Look adoption agencies have been put out of the business in massachusetts, parents have been denied the right to determine the values their children are taught. It affects families, all americans and its wrong for the court to take away the voice of the people. I think its an issue in 2016. Like roe v. Wade, the court wanted it to go amp as an issue, this issue will remain if they dont deal with it. Thank you both. We will stay on top of this issue both in and out of the courts. Thank you, chris. Thank you. Up next the president s war plans to face isis faces early setbacks. Plus what would you like to ask the panel about the obama strategy . Just go to facebook or twit ter or foxnewssunday, and we may use your question on the air. Great rates and safety working in harmony. Open an optimizer plus account from synchrony bank. Visit myoptimizerplus. Com to open an account. 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There have been certainly gains made by the Iraqi Security forces in iraq. I can go through some of those for you if that will be helpful. One moment. Sorry. Um well, state Department Spokeswoman jen saki struggling for more than 40 seconds to come up with successes of the iraqi army against isis. Brit hume fox news political analyst. Amy walter from the cook political report. Carly fiorina, former ceo of hewlettpackard, and bot westboundward of the washington post. While she may have trouble, because the iraqe army hasnt had many successes. Isis is continuing the march through Anbar Province all the way to the infamous town of abu ghraib, which is in baghdads western sububs. Meanwhile, brit, so as far as the Obama Administration has failed so far to is it equip or train the this assumed dubious that it could ever accomplish its goal of defeating, destroying isis. It looked like it was designed more to contain isis, especially in iraq. Now it looks like it may not succeed in doing that. At least the airpower alone is failing to do that. You can see the advances continue. Obviously its hindered to some extent by the air strikes which are not massive. Theyre in fact minimal it may be because they dont have the knowledge to be able to target effectively for a larger more robust campaign, but so far this is going badly, even if the goal were meanly to contain isis in iraq. By friday the state department was doing a better job of describing the successes, but not much better. The Security Forces are strong, theyre under constant assessment. The Embassy Remains okay. We continue to conduct bit. Is that what its come to, that the embassy is open and it is a success . This is a mess, and its the countrys mess, which country . Ours . Everywhere. The whole world. Obama has to come up with something that will work here. A mighty ambitious goal and were going to see. I think the big question is, can you know, the war power is a shared power between the executive and the congress, and can the president and the congress get together and say, okay, this is how were going to do it . This is going to be the strategy . If that could be done, were in for a calamity. Then there is the battle in syria, which is centered around the town of cobkhobani on the border from syria and turkey. The turkish army refuses to intervene. Even our allies among the Syrian Rebels are turning against the refusal to go after the assad regime. Carly, were seeing in syria what happens when you dont have any Ground Forces as a partner. The Syrian Rebels are not able to fight and the turks refuse to intervene. Were also seeing in syria that weve never had a strategy. For several years president obama would say Bashar Al Assad has to go, but he clearly doesnt believe that. I think our inconsistency is inexplicable there now. Why not set up a buffer zone . Why not ard of kurds . Why not establish a nofly zone . Why not reach an agreement with the it you recollects about what needs to be done in syria . Its simply theres no explanation for it. Meanwhile, meanwhile, things continue to go from bad to worse. Are you saying that we should at this late dealt intervene . If we set up a buffer zone, were taking sides get the assad regime. Gee, did he not mean that . Do we not think hes a tyrant who has to go . Thats where i think this is all falling apart. There clearly has been a pattern of inconsistency here. Yes, we need to defeat isis. Yes, if Family Research<\/a> council. Then there are now just 23 days until the Midterm Election<\/a>s, with washingtons balance of power at stake. Well break down the key races with youre Election Night<\/a> team, karl rove and joe trippi. Plus is president obamas battle plan working . Let me tick through these. Some of the successes weve seen on the ground from the Iraqi Security<\/a> forces. Our sunday panel weighs in, and our power player of the week, taking you inside the white house like never before. Can drag around to see the entire state dining room. Up on the ceiling, look at the chandelier. All right now on Fox News Sunday<\/a>. Hello again from fox news in washington. A Health Care Worker<\/a> at the dallas hospital that treated the ebola patient who died, has now tested positive for the virus, but that preliminary test will now be checked by the centers for Disease Control<\/a> in atlanta. Lets get the latest on this and rampedup screening at u. S. Airports from fox news correspondent leon vitter. Leland . Theres still a lot of questions to be answer ed including how this worker came into contact with the patient and how those officials in dallas say they were ready for this. This Health Care Worker<\/a> had been until the selfmonitoring regimen prescribed by the cdc. The entire process from the patientsself monitoring to the admission into isolation took less than 90 minutes. The patients condition is stable. The patient reported a lowgrade fever friday night, isolated and tested. This will be the first case of ebola treated from start to finish in the United States<\/a>, which could give doctors insight, where records show that they badly bungled the first case. Thomas eric duncan had arrived in the United States<\/a> without a fever, but with ebola. The Associated Press<\/a> reports that he went to the emergency room in dallas with a high fever of 103. Despite that, doctors sent him home a few hours later. On the 28th, he returned in far worse shape. Soon official put family and friends of the liberian man in isolation for fear they contracted the virus as well. Now, 15 days into the 21 days of possible incubation, other than the Health Care Worker<\/a>, no one has reported a fever or other symptoms, but the fear remains that the 150 or so travelers arriving daily to the United States<\/a> from the hot zone in west africa could also be infected with ebola. Pictures provided by customs and Border Protection<\/a> show their officers wearing protective gear while checking the temperature of and interviewing those arriving from the hot zone in west africa. By later this week, about 140 passengers a day will get checked at the five gateway airports equipped with screeners and quarantine rooms. In dallas right now they are not only trying to treat this Health Care Worker<\/a>, but also isolate those the person had contact with and try to stop any more infections. Chris . Leland, thank you. When this week began samesex marriage was legal in 19 states. Now because of the Supreme Court<\/a>s decision not to review the ruling of several appeals court. Samesex marriage may soon be legal in 25 states. We want to drill down into the merits with two top advocate leading conservative ted olson represented the plaintiffs in the virginia case, and is coauthor of redreaming the dream, the case for Marriage Equality<\/a>. Tony perkins is president of the Family Research<\/a> council. Gentlemen, welcome back to Fox News Sunday<\/a>. Mr. Olson, why do you think the Supreme Court<\/a> decided not to intervene in these cases, and can we take from that theres now a majority in the court who feels there is a constitutional right to samesex marriage . No one knows what goes on in the United States<\/a> Supreme Court<\/a> when theyre deciding to take a case or how they decide the case, but what the Supreme Court<\/a> was looking at on monday when it rendered its decision not to review these pending cases is a record of Something Like<\/a> 25 federal judges at the District Court<\/a> and at the appeal level which had consistently ruled that same sex marriage bans were unconstitutional. I think the justices saul an overwhelming trend in the same direction and said thought that the federal courts were handling this issue in an appropriate and proper way and decided not to weigh in. Mr. Perkins let me go a little further than ted olson, because he has to argue before the court, if the majority felt there was no constitutional right actually it takes a minoritity to review a case why would they make a nonruling in this case that would allow thousands more to have samesex marriage. Ted is the expert on the you still have i think the effect here is what we need a back alley type roe v. Wade decision by letting the lower courts do their evil bidding. Go back to 1973 when the court imposed abortion on the nation, it was to resolve the issue 41 later. That issue is now a political issue in every election from the president on down. This issue is not going away despite what the court may say. I have to allow you to responsible back alley roe v. Wade . I think the anotions is to the decision that struck down bans on interrachelle marriage. We now understand that was a right decision and right for america. Over 59 of americans now believe that Marriage Equality<\/a> should be the law of the land, individuals should be allowed to get married to the person that they love. The individuals involved in these cases have been together for decades. They now want to be a part of the community, and be part of our society by marrying and living with the people that they love. Let me pick up on one of the central concerns that people have about all of this. In all 16 of the states that because of the Supreme Court<\/a>s nondecision, may not have say legal samesex marriage, there was a ban either approved by the state legislature or poplar referendum. Mr. Olson, you have a long record of opposing what you call or what people call judicial activism. Here is what senator ted cruz said this week. Take a look. We shouldnt have unelected judges striking down our marriage laws, trying to impose their Public Policy<\/a> notion on the state of texas and on states where the elected legislatures have made the decision to preserve and protect traditional marriage. Question why should judges overrule the demonstrated will of the people either through referendum or through state legislature action. We have a constitution and bill of rights precisely because we want protections from majority rule. When the majority in a legislature or a popular vote take away rites of individuals protected by the bill of rights, then we have an independent judiciary to rectify that situation. Its happened again and again and again throughout this countrys history. We have an independent judiciary to protect individuals like gay and lesbian citizens who only want respect, decency and equality along with the rest of us. Mr. Perkins, let me go back to the case where there were bans on interracial marriages. The Supreme Court<\/a> simply ruled those bans were unconstitutional apples and oranges. Mr. Olson says and its an argument, we dont get to vote on the bill of rights. Why is it apples and oranges . Because were talking about an arbitrary boundary created by man between the races. That doesnt exist in nature. Theres nothing in nature to say thats normal. But to go back, this is unprecedented. Voters in two thirds of the states have affirmatively gone out to protect of definition of marriage. This is the only time in a period of two decades where voters and have affirmatively embraced the definition, and now you have the courts overturning that, robbing the people of their vote and their vote. What we see here, i believe, is that the court has lit a fuse to a powder keg culturally that will have ramifications for years to come in this nation. Lets talk about the merits of this. Obviously different people have different views. What is your single, strongest argument against allows samesex marriage. I would like to ask ted, what is the purpose of marriage . The purpose of marriage is what the Supreme Court<\/a> has said 14 times. Its a fundamental right that involves privacy, association, liberty, and being with the person you love and forming a part of the community and being treated equally with the rest of society. If you look at people under the age of 30, youre talking about a powder keg . People under the age of 30, like 80 of people agree well, that is true. Wait a minute. You answered his question. Now whats your answer to him . First off, marriage is not to affirm adults, its for the protection of children. If love is the only factor, where you do you draw the boundary . What the Supreme Court<\/a> said in the cases that it decided last year involving the defense of marriage case, striking that down, is that children do matter. There are thousands and tens of thousands of children in samesex house holds. They deserve the same respect and decency to that others have. We know children do best with a mom and dad. Thats why the policies have preferred marriage and given benefits to it. If love is the factor, what boundaries are there . You want the sky to fall because two People Living<\/a> next door to you what court after court after court has said, that allowing people of the same sex to marry the person they love, to be part of the community and be treated equally, does no damage to heterosexual marriage, and court after court after court has said children living in a samesex relationship do as well or better than people in other communities. The court doesnt study this social let me ask you, what are the boundaries, though . If its just love, what are the boundaries . What are you suggesting . Polygamy, people will be marrying their pets . I didnt say that. If we remove the natural established boundaries for marriage, the union of a man and woman, we have removed those boundaries thor guardrails. Theres no arbitrary boundary. You and your wife live happily in this house, theres a samesex couple living here. Whats the damage to you . Lets talk about that. Lets talk about the wedding vendors that have been put out of business. Im not talking about that. Thats a different issue. No, its its a difficult issue. Im asking you whats the impact on you on and your family. Nigh whirn all of a sudden in school are taught values and morals that contradict what i teach as a parent at home. Thats happening already across the country in those states that have recognized and forced samesex marriage on the states. Lets talk about aaron and melissa klein, a bakery in oregon, forced out of business, forced to pay 450,000 in fines, simply because they didnt want to participate in a samesex marriage. Well get to that in a seconds, but the argument that this damages of perkins next to them . Everyone who has talked about this says theres no couple that will decide to get divorced or not to get married or not to rain children just because the cup 8 next to them is treated equally and with respect and decency under our constitution. That is why we have courts. The same argument mr. Perkins was made was made with respect to interracial marriages in 1967. 30 some states at one point prohibited interracial marriages. Talk about the color of the skin . People were making the same arguments. Marriage is wrong with people of different races. We have to stop that. When the Supreme Court<\/a> finally acted, 16 states were still prohibiting interrachelle marriages. As far as the marriage vendors, the people in the flower business or in the in the cake business or whatever it happens to be, we have a civil rights law that is say if youre going to engage in commerce youre not going to discriminate against people on the basis of their religion, sex or race. Thats a simple solution to the problem. Massachusetts driving them out of business . Massachusetts allowed samesex marriage ten years ago. Nobody has been put out of marriage its a canard. Im going to give you the final word. In your answer id like you to talk about what role you think this will play in the 2016 president ial battle. Look adoption agencies have been put out of the business in massachusetts, parents have been denied the right to determine the values their children are taught. It affects families, all americans and its wrong for the court to take away the voice of the people. I think its an issue in 2016. Like roe v. Wade, the court wanted it to go amp as an issue, this issue will remain if they dont deal with it. Thank you both. We will stay on top of this issue both in and out of the courts. Thank you, chris. Thank you. Up next the president s war plans to face isis faces early setbacks. Plus what would you like to ask the panel about the obama strategy . Just go to facebook or twit ter or foxnewssunday, and we may use your question on the air. Great rates and safety working in harmony. Open an optimizer plus account from synchrony bank. Visit myoptimizerplus. Com to open an account. Service. Security. Savings. Synchrony bank engage with us. She loves to shop online with her debit card. And so does bill, an identity thief who stole marys identity, took over her bank accounts, and stole her hard earned money. Unfortunately, millions of americans just like you learn all it may take is a little misplaced information to wreak havoc on your life. This is Identity Theft<\/a>, and no one helps stop it better than lifelock. If mary had lifelocks bank account alerts, she could have been notified in time to help stop the damage. Lifelock has the most comprehensive identify theft protection available, helping guard your Social Security<\/a> number, your money, your credit, even the equity in your home. You even get a 1 million service guarantee. Thats security no one can beat. And use promo code notme for 60 days of lifelock Identity Theft<\/a> protection and get a document shredder free. Or go to lifelock. Com notme. There have been certainly gains made by the Iraqi Security<\/a> forces in iraq. I can go through some of those for you if that will be helpful. One moment. Sorry. Um well, state Department Spokeswoman<\/a> jen saki struggling for more than 40 seconds to come up with successes of the iraqi army against isis. Brit hume fox news political analyst. Amy walter from the cook political report. Carly fiorina, former ceo of hewlettpackard, and bot westboundward of the washington post. While she may have trouble, because the iraqe army hasnt had many successes. Isis is continuing the march through Anbar Province<\/a> all the way to the infamous town of abu ghraib, which is in baghdads western sububs. Meanwhile, brit, so as far as the Obama Administration<\/a> has failed so far to is it equip or train the this assumed dubious that it could ever accomplish its goal of defeating, destroying isis. It looked like it was designed more to contain isis, especially in iraq. Now it looks like it may not succeed in doing that. At least the airpower alone is failing to do that. You can see the advances continue. Obviously its hindered to some extent by the air strikes which are not massive. Theyre in fact minimal it may be because they dont have the knowledge to be able to target effectively for a larger more robust campaign, but so far this is going badly, even if the goal were meanly to contain isis in iraq. By friday the state department was doing a better job of describing the successes, but not much better. The Security Forces<\/a> are strong, theyre under constant assessment. The Embassy Remains<\/a> okay. We continue to conduct bit. Is that what its come to, that the embassy is open and it is a success . This is a mess, and its the countrys mess, which country . Ours . Everywhere. The whole world. Obama has to come up with something that will work here. A mighty ambitious goal and were going to see. I think the big question is, can you know, the war power is a shared power between the executive and the congress, and can the president and the congress get together and say, okay, this is how were going to do it . This is going to be the strategy . If that could be done, were in for a calamity. Then there is the battle in syria, which is centered around the town of cobkhobani on the border from syria and turkey. The turkish army refuses to intervene. Even our allies among the Syrian Rebels<\/a> are turning against the refusal to go after the assad regime. Carly, were seeing in syria what happens when you dont have any Ground Forces<\/a> as a partner. The Syrian Rebels<\/a> are not able to fight and the turks refuse to intervene. Were also seeing in syria that weve never had a strategy. For several years president obama would say Bashar Al Assad<\/a> has to go, but he clearly doesnt believe that. I think our inconsistency is inexplicable there now. Why not set up a buffer zone . Why not ard of kurds . Why not establish a nofly zone . Why not reach an agreement with the it you recollects about what needs to be done in syria . Its simply theres no explanation for it. Meanwhile, meanwhile, things continue to go from bad to worse. Are you saying that we should at this late dealt intervene . If we set up a buffer zone, were taking sides get the assad regime. Gee, did he not mean that . Do we not think hes a tyrant who has to go . Thats where i think this is all falling apart. There clearly has been a pattern of inconsistency here. Yes, we need to defeat isis. Yes, if Bashar Al Arad<\/a> sad is under pressure as a result of our strategy to do so, issant that good . Isnt that what obama told you needs to happened . We got several questions like they on facebook. David mansfield writes is every decision the president makes on how to best deal with isis based on Political Considerations<\/a> than what is based on the security of our country. Ellen asks after the election will the Strategy Change<\/a> . Amy, how do you answer them . Is this war against isis, is it all politics . Theres politics going on in both countries. Turkey thats internal turkish politics gill on. What the Prime Minister<\/a> wants is not necessarily best for the americans. The american public, too, is really am bivalent about it. On the one hasnt they dont want to see troops going onto the ground by syria, but its not by a big percentage, about 44 who favor troops going in. Even republicans are a bit divided on this issue, 336 of republicans say they dont want troops going in, but the next question, do you think troops will go . Of course, we do. We know its whats going to have to happen. Right now what congress has done is punted. They dont want to talk about these issues before the election. They dont even want to talk about it when the election is over. I agree with bob, thats what needs to happen next f were going to get more involved, talking about troops, any of these other issues, Congress Needs<\/a> to weigh in. Theres not even a consistency in that issue. Its unmistakable in a situation this, if the president wants the support of congress and its always useful, unified to have it, he needs to seek it. And if theres a goal here and the goal is the destruction of isis, he needs to make the case before congress and the public that the destruction of isis is an indispensable National Security<\/a> objective that must be achieved for our security as a nation. He needs to make that, with force, and energetically to per sue a resolution of support from congress. My guess if he did that, he would get it, but to speak of congress, as divided as it is between the two parties, as a place from which the idea, the support for this is going to emanate i think is unrealistic. I think they dont want to vote on it it never has guys, lets not talk about congress. The key is the president. Youve written at great length about this president and his feelings toward war. Is he committed to defeating isis, destroying isis as he says he is . Or was this simply a case of the beheadings, there was political pressure, he had to do something, suddenly security was becoming an issue. Once the midterms end, so will his commitment. Thats a great question. As carly points out, what is the strategy here . Its really interesting. This was the is moment when the Obama Administration<\/a> in its early months said were going to reach out to assad. Were going to reach out to the syrians, and this has not been reported, but the people in the Intelligence Community<\/a> were so worried that they kept putting items in the top secret daily brief to the is that z president , showing what a barbarian he was, you cant try to work some deal with them, so theres finally reality descended here, but you know, weve had a seeiers of realities, and you need a strategy that will go and, you know, you do need congress, you do need the puck and say the president is fully on board. Yeah, so hes got to figure out and making a decision. Hes made it clear, very public hes going to destroy isis. Well see. All right, panel. We have to take a break here. Well see you all a bit later. What do you think . Is the president s plan working, or is it already in trouble . Let me know on facebook or twitter, foxnewssunday and use the fns. Our election swamis, karl rove and joe trippi, go inside the numbers, next. Kid hey dad, who was that man . Dad hes our broker. He helps looks after all our money. Kid do you pay him . Dad of course. Kid how much . Dad i dont know exactly. Kid what if youre not happy . Does he have to pay you back . Dad nope. Kid why not . Dad it doesnt work that way. Kid why not . Vo are you asking enough questions about the way your wealth is managed . Wealth management at Charles Schwab<\/a> the Midterm Election<\/a> are now just 23 days away with a number of tight senate races to determine the balance of power in washington. Weve brought back our campaign ghoul ryes. To take us inside the hottest races. Karl rove was the argument tex of george bushs victories, and joe trippi has run a number of races. I asked you to give us oh, my gosh it looks like a snow globe. It says were swamis, so these are our crystal balls. It has all the republicans winning. Oh, my gosh, gentlemen, your path to how the republicans will gain control of the senate here is your list of the top nine by the flipping from democrats to republicans to least likely in the lower right. Most folks agree, montana and West Virginia<\/a> will go republicans. Former gop governor mike rounds is suddenly in a much closer race. Carl is syed syed suddenly up for grabs . I think its a sign of the diagnose operation of the democrats that they are plunging 2. 5 million into south dakota here in the next 3 1 2 weeks in order to navigate their way through a fourcandy primary. I think at the end of the day rounds survive and the republicans have retaliated let keep going, yes, im bringing out the peeper, alaska where dan sullivan is pulling away from democratic incumbent senator mark begich. Louisiana where bill cassidy now has a lead or mary landrieu, and arkansas where democratic senator mar pryor now trails republican congressman tom cotton. Joe, do you see all at least of those flipping to republicans . Whats the best chance for democrats to hold on . All three of those are moving in the wrong direction. In all three. Theyre sitting in the low 40s, or even 40 in mark pryors case. Look, thee tough. I think the best shot is bag itch, maybe mary landrieu. Just to follow up quickly. If you have a democratic incumbent senator whos at 42 , 43 look, if youre under 50, its a problem. This is a problem that may hurt republicans in other states, but to be this far under 45 is a huge problem. Undecideds are either going to stay home or break away from the incumbents in these races. There isnt a race i know of where the under decideds break to the incumbent. Theyve already made their decision. There are what i would call the three to theups, iowa where joany ernst has a narrow lead over democratic congressman bruce braillie, this is an open seat. Karl, its awfully close. Why do you think its going to go gop . First of all, the fact that she came through a bitter primary and has united the party is one thing. Secondly, in iowa theyve had a terrific ground game historically. In 2010, at this point they had 27,759 early ballots an advantage in early ballots requested. Today it is 21,924. At this point in 2010, they had a 22,352 advantage in returned ballots. This year they have under 12,000. Cut almost in half. 2010, remember, is a year where they lose the governors race 54 43 and lose the senate race 64 33, so they were doing worse than in 2010. Lets tern to another one of the very close races, thats where colorado where cory gardner is barely ahead, just 1. 3 points, barely ahead of the democratic incumbent senator mar udahl. Joe, udahl has made this one so much about womens issues that some people in colorado are calling mark udall senator uterus. Will that work . That may work for him this is another race the thing with gardner is you have a member of Congress Running<\/a> again the senator. Its tie tying udahl to and this one will go down to the wire there, i think i would look for a huge turnout, i think, bigger than even possibly in a president ial behalf mail ballot and the fact that the obama test bed for getting out its vote in 2012 happened in this state in 2010. Theyre going to put that to work for udahl. Then theres north carolina, which early on was seen as almost a sure pickup for the republicans, but democratic senator kay hagen, as you can see, is hanging in there against republican state house speak tom till his. Heres a clip from their debate this week. This race is about who is going to represent north carolina. When you vote with the president , you represent the policies. They dont like the president in north carolina, but also dont like their own state legislature. The question is do you want to send a message to obama or not . I thought it was interesting, the president is in the same shape as he was in 2010, in a gallup. 22 of the people said they want to send a message of sport to the president. This year 30 in 2010 said they wanted to send a message of opposition. 32 this year. Why is hay hangen as we come down the final stages, three recent polls now have it as a 2 has one reelection. Theyre barely above heres how close it is. In the early voting, democrats lead by 548 early voters. And they won the senate racily 300,000 votes. Karl also gave us a list of republicans, because there are some republican seats which are in jeopardy. Lets put those up on the screen. These are from most likely to least likely that republicans could lose kansas, georgia and kentucky. Lets focus on kansas, where gorman has a small lead over incumbent pat roberts. They also have a debate this week. Ive tried both parties and like kansasens ive been disappointed. He doesnt want to answer the tough questions. If he cant answer them here, how is he going to answer them in washington . Joe, if we take your rule of thumb about low 40s, i saw pat roberts 42. 3 , how much true is he in kansas . I think hes gone. Part of the problem. You see that is a a republican loss, democratic pickup . We dont know if it will be a democratic pickup with orman yet. Yes, we do. But i think the more you vote again the more the establishment rallies around you, the more it helps orman in this race. All the republicans rushing in to save roberts i think hurts him. I think gorman wins this one. You kept saying that republicans have to come up with an alternative positive agenda for where they want to take the country, but frankly they seem to be running on everything is falling apart under obama and the democrats. Is that enough to get them through the next few weeks. I disagree that thats what theyre doing. A lot of these people arent emphasizing the things it will do. Dan sullivan, energy development, and were seeing this across the board, but it gets subordinated by the fact that in the Television Advertising<\/a> each side has an easy, simp and negative and if youre a democrat, you find on the every personal foible or, you know, you accuse them of wanting to push granny over the cliff, or antiwoman, whatever the theme of the week is for democrats. Joe, about a minute left. There are a lot of trends favoring republicans, despite that, if you look at these races, particularly as we get to the tossup races, colorado, iowa, north carolina, democrats are hanging in there, how do you explain it . Again, i think part of this is republicans in congress have the lower ratings than the president , but in the end here, look, this is an antiincumbent year. Thats why i think someone like Mitch Mcconnell<\/a>, do not count that race in the republican column. You know, if seeing is in race after race here, this is an antidemocratic thing going on, because of the obama presidency, but there is an antiincumbent fevor, i wouldnt count out mcconnell not even kay hagen. Bottom line, three weeks out, things can change. Who takes the senate . I still think its a jump ball, i really do. Thanks for that. No, today you have to give the edge to the republicans. Ive been saying five to eight seats, and that much is still in play. Karl if. It will be close, but second Midterm Election<\/a>s are about the president s party. The job approval in gallup is 39 in virtually all of these states, except for michigan, which we didnt tough on. But in all of these states his Approval Rating<\/a> is below the average. In West Virginia<\/a> its the 20s. I think it will be a close, a long night, it may take us until january, but i think it was be 51, 52, 53. Because there will be runoffs . There will be a runoff in louisiana, because its a and georgia . Georgia requires statewide Election Officials<\/a> to win with a majority. Thank you both. Thanks for coming in. I expect better crystal ball and swami hats. Only if you wear one. He brought in two only if you wear one. Well all be together Election Night<\/a>. When we come back our sunday group joins the conversation about how the world will turn on Election Night<\/a>. Ings we build and it doesnt even fly. We build it in classrooms and exhibit halls, mentoring tomorrows innovators. We build it raising roofs, preserving habitats and serving americas veterans. Every day, thousands of boeing volunteers help make their communities the best they can be. Building Something Better<\/a> for all of us. Building Something Better<\/a> for all of us. When folks think about wthey think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else<\/a> as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems<\/a> technology. 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These are the Approval Rating<\/a>s for president obama in a new fox news poll in five states, including as you can see in kentucky. Even if the purple state of colorado, his Approval Rating<\/a> is only 36 . Brit, how big a drag is the president on these candidates . Hes a huge drag in an election which historically, that is the second misdemeanor term of a presidency turns on a president s popularity, which means that the key elements are in place for a big republican years. There are some things that point in the other direction. One is that in the house where you might expect major pickups, all lowhanging fruit was already picked in 2010, and in the senate races, the wild card is the turnout situation. If i was viewing this from a pre2012 lens, i would say its a republican washout across the board, but the democrats did something in 2012 to elect the president , which is to say the greatest mobilization effort in history, which is not at all clear that they can replicate this year. I think thats the main reason why so many of us are not prepared to say there will be a republican wave. And amy, its one thing to turn out obama societiers for obama than it is to turn them out for some democratic senator or congressman they may not care about. What do you think are the chances they can recalibrate that repeat, that repeat turnout. Why isnt this more of a wave election for republicans, at least as it looks so far . If you look at the averages, the average seat in a bad year would be a loss in the senate. That would be the senate majority. So i think, look, we knew from the beginning there were seven seats in trouble for democrats. There were seven states that mitt romney had won. They just needed to win six of those. Whats changed is the fact that the map actually got bigger. So i think if were looking for a wave, it would be that republicans dont just win those states that mitt romney carried, but they win a colorado or an iowa. I think the day after the election, thats what well be looking at. Thats a bigger take not just on 2014, but but going to brits turnout about mobilizing voters, can republicans crack that code, turn out the voters in purple states like iowa, like new hampshire, like colorado, in a year where everything is going right for them. If they cant, if they lose those states, that suggests they do have bigger problems. Advisedly its 23 days out. How does it look to you . I do think that republicans have the advantage now. You put up those numbers. Youve already got five seats leaning towards republican, they have to find one more without losing any of their own. When you have to get one out of four states, those odds certainly with republicans right now. The democrats dont like the idea what we have just talked about on this show, were not talking about how bad republicans are, were talking about ebola and isis, not what democrats wanted to think about 23 days out. I had a bit of a disagreement with karl, but there certainly is not a National Republican<\/a> agenda. Is that a problem . Well, i do think that republicans if and i think when we take control of the senate, they are going to have to demonstrate they can govern. Thats why i think you see Reince Priebus<\/a> coming occupy with a 11point plan, with senator johnson working with others to put together an agenda. If you asked the average voter whats the republican plan in. But they couldnt answer it for democrats, either, with all due respect. So i think no one is talking about a National Plan<\/a> right now, but i think karl is absolutely right. In these individual races i think were going to win colorado, for example, i think both cory gardner and have clear platforms of what they think the priorities should be. What strikes you about this election . I think the question is whats on voters minds . I think it is the economy still, shaky, the stock market drop causes a lot of anxiety, foreign policy, isis, to say the least, ebola, so that brings you to the leadership question in the white house, and people are going to make an assessment on that. Those polls show that, whether people are as karl rove says and hopes, people are going to send a message to obama for bush by voting for republicans, we dont know. It still is three weeks away, and, you know, obama knows its a leadership test, and i think in that three weeks, we might try to do something in some of these areas that shows hes in charge. At this point, would you agree that rather than the economy, where there doesnt seem to be a clear different path between the two parties, its more just a sense of things seem out of control . As you say, whether its ebola, whether its isis, whether its the secret service failing, some of this you cant blame on the president , but just a feeling that things arent working in washington . Deep anxiety, and the polls show. That. The question is how do you mobilize the voters . Also in the next three weeks, every potential voters is going to be watching candidates to a certain extent, but what is obama doing . How does he further define or fail to define himself . We will see. Not only an october surprise, but a late october surprise. Possibly. Thank you panel. Up next or power player of the week, taking us behind the scenes at the without. White house. It can be. To breathe with copd . It can feel like this. Copd includes chronic bronchitis and emphysema. Spiriva is a oncedaily inhaled. 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You can look on the ceiling, look at the chandelier, and you can see how this room looked differently under different presidencies, in the 1870s, in 1903 when Theodore Roosevelt<\/a> renovated, and the truman renovation, much different. Theres also a movie where former residents like barbara bush talk about what it was like to live over the store. I remember looking out the window in the upstairs end room and looking over and georges office. It was very cozy. Since 9 11 its harder to get a white house tour. Now you have to go through your member of congress, or for foreign visitors through your embassy. Is this center for people who are going to the white house or people who arent going to the white house . Its for both. It enhances for people that go to the white house and creates an experience for those who dont have that opportunity. A couple blocks from the white house, the Visitors Center<\/a> used to look like this. After a twoyear renovation, it now looks like this. Theres a display where you can learn what president s liked to eat. Do you know whose favorite food was squirrel soup . Abraham lincoln. James garfield. I was off by 21 years. Even an unintentional reference to recent security breaches. This is the replica of the door knock to the white house on the north portico. Wait. This one is locked. [ laughter ] the Historical Association<\/a> has committed more than 12 million to the center in partnership with the National Parks<\/a> service. Association funding is all private, mostly from selling White House Christmas<\/a> ornaments. It also uses the money to preserve the state rooms and buy more treasures for the white house collection. The point, to get people more engaged in the peoples house. This Visitors Center<\/a> puts all of that in context and brings it to life for the visitor, so you can go behind those iron gates and experience and understand what the white house is like for the president and the first family. Mclaurin estimates more than 1 Million People<\/a> a year will tour the new Visitors Center<\/a> and most wont be able to get into the white house itself. He hopes to make the center the next best thing. Now this program note. Next sunday, just two weeks before the Midterm Election<\/a> and battle for control of the senate, well have an exclusive debate between the republican and Democratic National<\/a> chairs, Reince Priebus<\/a> and debby wagger man shultz. Thats next sunday. Have a great well and well see you next Fox News Sunday<\/a>. Lap lap. Deadly gunfire erupts over oakland. What we know with the victims and the search for the shooter this morning. Fleece week continues in san francisco. What a look with what you have to deal with if you plan on coming into the city today. Polanco. One run scores. 20. Giants take game one. Bum garner on the keys to success. Facing the cardinal fans at a bar. 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