Omalley back at 5 but that 5 number very important for him for the next democratic debate. In New Hampshire, split the leaders but essentially the same story, sanders narrowly ahead by four points. Omalley barely registers. Its fair to say a year ago no one would have predicted Bernie Sanders mounting this challenge to clinton or donald trump leading anywhere. But thats where we are three weeks before the first voting. And yesterday i sat down backstage with trump in ottumwa, iowa. We began by talking about the cover story of Time Magazine which said in the past tense how trump won and whether hes already accomplished what he set out to do. If you got out of the race today, do you feel like you have won something . I dont. I think the time article was incredibly well written. Thats a good writer, i will tell you that, a professional. But i feel that if i dont win all of it, and i mean the president soy, that ive wasted i know ive been given accolades. Youve shifted the debate. Especially being somewhat of a novice. People have said very nice things, like Time Magazine but i feel like if i dont win i you know theres running conventional wisdom that says okay, hes here to stay but if leave the race. Im not leaving. Im not leaving. You and i had us this discussion about two months ago and you said would you leave. Ive been number one since i joined up. June 16, amazing. We had a lot of fun but you asked me that question i started talking about well, maybe here, maybe there, if this happens. Theres no maybes anymore . No maybes. Im not leaving. Youre going straight to the convention . If i dont win, i dont win. Maybe that can happen but you dont accept the idea that you might lose iowa . You could lose it. I hope i win iowa. Ive developed an amazing relationship with the people of iowa. You see it outside. But i have an amazing relationship with evangelicals, with the tea party, with the people of iowa. Your chief can ompetitor is ted cruz. You have brought up the Canadian Citizenship issue. But let me ask you your opinion. Do you believe he is constitutionally eligible . I know the Supreme Court has never weighed in on the phrase natural born citizen. But you yourself, do you think he should be eligible . So what happens is i was watching Laurence Tribe of harvard yesterday whos a constitutional expert, one of the true experts. And according to him, its a real question mark. And he is the i would say he was is one of the great authorities on this subject. He has a question mark and but do you have a question mark . From teds standpoint and the partys standpoint, he has to solve this problem. Because the democrats will sue him if hes the nominee. If ted is the nominee, he will be sued by the democrats and lawyers of the country at harvard with strong opinions on this, the whole thing has not been this matter as he said, this matter has not been determined. I understand that. Im talking about your opinion. I would say that i would want the Supreme Court to rule because they havent ruled. Let me ask you about you said something about senator cruz in a cnn interview. You said he was for amnesty. Thats a big charge. Of all people to charge being for amnesty, wheres the evidence on him . He worked for bush, bush was heavy for amnesty. He worked for him. And he was heavy for amnesty. And if you look at rubio go after him, rubio and bush are both claiming each other was totally for amnesty and honestly, marco has a lot of good points as to teds feeling on amnesty. Ted just switched his views on ethanol. He was totally against it now hes for it. Its iowa and hes for it. Where are you in ethanol . Ive been okay with ethanol. Youre okay with the subsidies. Fuel and the people out here, its a very important subject but ted switched and i think they feel very queasy about that. Ted will switch opinions and i think thats fine. Youve changed a lot. Ive changed opinions over the years. I mean, we change. But it will be very interesting to see what happens. I will ill tell you one thing. I am really looking to february 1. Its going to be very exciting. Let me ask you. Senator rubio sponsored a bill in florida back when he was in the statehouse to give instate tuition for undocumented immigrants. Theres a lot of states that allow instate tuition for the children of undocumented immigrants. Ive not heard your position. Im opposed to it. Totally opposed . Theyre not here legally. Even kids born to illegal immigrants. Well, i happen to disagree with the whole concept of anchor babies. Thats in the constitution. No, its not the constitution. If you read and look and go to the real scholars like different will tell you, somebody comes over and they have a baby on our border and it happens to be on this side of the border, were not mandated to take care of that baby. You dont to change the constitution. You may need a vote in congress, but you dont have to change it. Now, theres a debate about that. I dont think its even close and ive been on this issue for a long time. No, no. Supreme to come into our country legally, jeff. They have to be here legally. How do you decide if someones a muslim when youre doing this test . Well, theres got to be some kind of a method. Word. Word. Thats my point. If somebody wants to do damage, theyre going to lie and cheat and sneak into this country. This has become a very big factor over the last week and a half, two weeks since i made my announcement that we have to see what the hell is going on. In the meantime the other night you have a cop shot in philadelphia with a gun put to his head and you know the chants and the rantings and the ravings. Germany i understand that. But how do you do it . I get it, or do you just say, you know what, you do it geographically, not religiously. You have certain people come in. If theyre Business People if theyre proven but we have to find out what the problem is. Now, we can be politically correct and never discuss it, but we cant let that happen to our country. Let me get some news of the week. China clearly its economy, theyre having a problem. Theyre having a crisis there. You have railed that china is beating america and yet theyre killing us. Okay. Were in our best twoyear job creation spree in 20 years. China is cratering our stock market for the problems they have at home. How is that the definition of china winning and america losing. Look at our gdp. If you look at that, if you look at our productivity, if you look at the fact that people in ten years essentially havent had a raise, people are going down instead of up, the jobs, a lot working temporary jobs and jobs that they dont want instead of jobs our economy is doing horribly and you take a look at the jobs report, the jobs report is fiction. Total fiction . You know theres been improvements from the crash, obviously. I would say its 90 we all had improvements from crashes. We had a crash, we had somewhat of a crash. Would it have straightened itself out . We had somewhat of a crash. But listen, chuck, you have 60, 70, 80 Million People out there that want to work that arent getting jobs. You said you thought president obama was a terrible negotiator . Obama is one of the worst negotiators on everything ive ever seen except for when it comes to dealing with the republicans. Its unbelievable. The republicans fold every single time. This last budget was terrible. But look at the iran deal, you look at these deals, i look up bergdahl, we get a traitor, they get five people theyve wanted for nine years and theyre back on the battlefield trying to kill everybody including us and thats the way thats the counted of kind of deal we make. And iran by the way, iran just shipped uranium out. Theyre living up to the deal. Where do they ship it . To russia. Well, you trust putin. I trust him more than some people. I was just going to say i can tell you that. But what kind of a dial is that . Even that, theyre shipping it to russia, right . Why arent they shipping it to us . Why arent we getting it . Theyre shipping it to russia. I dont like that. You dont like that . No, id like them to ship it to us. Its our deal, so they get 150 billion. We dont even get our prisoners back. They have 24day periods and, by the way, the people dont know, the 24 days doesnt start until a whole procedure takes place. That 24 day can be a longer hard to wipe away Nuclear Material in 24 days. I dont know that. Scientists tell us that. How about their right to selfinspection . You think that the iranians are going to give us good selfinspection . I dont. But with the republicans, obamas a great negotiator. Back in a moment with more of my sit down of donald trump including his plans to use president clintons past against hillary. I dont want to [ male announcer ] some come here to build something smarter. Some come here to build something stronger. 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A woman claimed rape, horrible things. You know if you bring it up people will bring up your your first divorce was ugly. Its fine. But i wasnt the president of the United States and i wasnt dealing in the oval office, all right . A big difference. I wasnt the president. And my first wife thinks im great and my second wife and and i have a great marriage. I mean, i have a great marriage. So i mean, its fine. Im not saying dont bring anything up with me. But when she says that, i had to bring it up. And by the way, theyve become very unresponsive since then. They have. And i just won the fox poll against her even. Im up substantially over hillary. As you know people call you a lot of names, some of it is positive, some is negative. I want to throw some by you. Some people are calling you the music man of this race. Kim kardashian, biff from back to the future, george costanza. Pt barnum. Any of those you consider a compliment . Pt barnum. People call you names. We need pt barnum a bit. We have to be a cheerleader for our country. We dont have a cheer leerd. I thought obama when he got elected would be a good cheerleader. I said hell unify the country, whether its africanamerican and white and all hell unify. Hes not unifying. Its hes been a great divider. On top of that hes been the divider . What about the Republican Party . No, no, i think you dont think this has been a twoway street. Chuck, he hasnt brought us together. Thats on him . Not on both parties . I think its on everybody, but hes the leader. He could have been a great cheerleader and he hasnt been and thats too bad. What do you tell conservatives about 90s trump, you liked the clintons, you were prochoice, you were even for some gun control, you wondered why the nra wouldnt be for some limitations, some restrictions. 2016 trump, youre not that guy. Well, i have changed. Ive changed in many ways. What is it . Whats the change . Look at ronald reagan. Liberal democrat. Ronald reagan was a liberal democrat. And he became a fairly conservative not overly but fairly conservative republican. And as he grew old desh and er and ive seen things and watches things. If in paris or california recently the 14 People Killed and probably others to follow in terms of that group because you have some people that are very, very badly wounded and in paris you have some people that are on but paris is you cant have guns. In france you cant have guns in if in paris they had guns, if in california on the other side where the bullets go both ways, not just one direction, you wouldnt have had the kind of carnage youve had. What should be the restrictions, though, on purchasing guns . Where are you on this . Background checks for everybody . First of all, theres a lot of language right now that the federal government has not taken advantage of. You know that. Theres tremendous language right now, stuff thats already been passed and it was passed the oldfashioned way where people agreed to it. What obama did is hes always signing executive orders. He doesnt bring people into his office are you going to refuse to do executive orders as president . I wont refuse it. Youll do them, toorchlts ill do a lot of right things. Hes led the way, to be honest with you. What hes done on immigration, when he signed those papers. Now fortunately the courts all termination. But one of the beautiful things about executive orders from my standpoint is if i get elected many executive order he is signed the first day theyll be unsigned . I understand that, but youre willing to use them, too . Im not going to rule it out. Final question because i know youve got the rally im going to use them much better and theyll serve a much better purpose than what hes done. On tuesday well hear the president say the state of our union is in some words strong, vibrant, all this stuff. What would you say . One year from now it could be you giving this speech to congress, a version of it, we dont call it state of the union in the first one, but a joint session speech. Of the union right now . Now more to a couple years . Now or in a year. Now its a mess. Youd go up and there and say the state of our union is a mess. I wouldnt say that. Youre asking me for an opinion. Obama is going to say what he will say. But i think right now the state of our union is a mess. We cant beat isis, our military is falling back, its not being properly taken care of, our vets arent being properly taken care of, obamacare as you know is going to fail very soon and probably in 17. We dont have borders, we dont have anything. If i theme in two years and making a speech i say were Getting Better fast. In that first speech to congress youre going to lay out your first 100 days agenda. What are the four issues . I want to build our military bigger and better and stronger. Number one. I want to take care of our veterans. I want to take care of. Theyre being taken care of horribly. I want to fix our health care system. I want to create borders so we have a country. Right now we dont a country. We have borders where people walk across and do whatever they and the babies become citizens and we have to take care of them. We deal many, many things and thats what i want to do. A bunch of billionaires around the world, zuckerberg, they want to give away more than half of their wealth at some point to philanthropic projects. On to this. He endorsed me. Im sure people have asked you to sign this giving pledge. They have asked me. Why havent you done it . Im oldfashioned. I have wonderful children doing a wonderful job and i believe in that and we employ thousands and thousands of people and i like the concept of keeping the Company Going as opposed to selling everything and giving it away. So right now i mean perhaps i shouldnt be saying this but im of the old school. Id like to see my children take this Great Company that ive built and it is a Great Company and id like to see it go on for a long time creating jobs, lots of money, pay lots of taxes, give lots of money away. Contributions. Mr. Trump, until we meet again. Thank you. One note from our friends at politifact about the interview. Theyve done initial fact checking. Donald trump said the five prisoners who were swapped for bo bergdahl are back on the battlefield. Well, politifact finds that to be false. Officials say they are still in qatar, however is one is suspected of trying to contact taliban associates. More from politifact and my interview with mr. 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