Other republican candidates. Their establishment frets over nominating a socialist and wonder what is wrong with Hillary Clinton. Im not interested in ideas that sound good on paper but will never make in the the real world. Both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders are with thus is morning. And if you thought this cam point could not get more unpredictable, look whos considering jumping in, former new york city mayor Michael Bloomberg. Joining us are nbcs Kristen Welker, also from nbc kasie hunt and david brooks of the New York Times. Trump versus cruz, clinton versus sanders, eight days to iowa. Welcome to sunday, its meet the press. Weve dug out so good sunday morning and welcome to the Blizzard Edition of meet the press. Both parties are in a bit of a panic mode. The republicans from r fractured. With the establishment thinking the unthinkable. The best way to stop ted cruz might be to back donald trump. Mr. Trump will join me on that issue. Well stewart but well start with the democrats where a more traditional split has developed, think cartermondale or clinton obama. And if people think they have seen this before, perhaps they have 2008. Again, clintons big lead in iowa and New Hampshire seem to have vanished. Again she appears to face an Enthusiasm Gap and again the hand wringing among her supporters has begun over whats going wrong. If that werent enough, the New York Times is reporting Michael Bloomberg is considering a run at the white house in part because of clintons troubles. This morning, there is good news for clinton. She won the endorsement of the Des Moines Register, as did marco rubio on the republican side but one would argue the probably is a greater impact among Democratic Caucus goers. Joining me from iowa is Hillary Clinton. Madam secretary, welcome back. Thank you, chuck. Let me start with this. Your opponent 174 years 74 years old, calls himself a socialist, you have 12 of 18 democratic governors supporting you, he has zero. What happened . Whats gone wrong and save me the we always knew this was going to be a close race answer. Well, chuck, look, i think its actually good for the debate that were having that theres so much interest and energy that i feel on my side and i know obviously so does senate or senator sanders on his. We have a big choice to make and its exciting. Pursuing the opportunity to reach every single voter in iowa and well see what happens. I feel good about where we are. Obviously well find out week from tomorrow but if you look at the differences between senator sanders and myself, i just dont think we can wait. We cant wait to make progress on the myriad of issues that i think were going to be facing in the next administration. I want to build on the progress that president obama has made and he has a different approach and thats what voters are trying to determine, which they prefer. As you know, the caucuses enthusiasm. Let me read you something that was in the New York Times from gail collins. Nevertheless, you cant ignore the fact that Hillary Clinton is the candidate of the aging democratic establishment whose supporters pray for low turnout on election day. That might get her nominated in the long run but not the kind of image that makes you go whistling into the election booth. By the way, she wrote that in 2008. [ laughter ] she wrote that in 2008, madam secretary, is there a deja vu happening here . I just have to tell you, i can only react ot what im doing, feeling, getting responses from people and, you know, i feel great that we have the level of enthusiasm that we do and we also have a really good team on the ground that has been working for months to make sure that its not just here today, gone tomorrow, that people are involved, they are really reached out to and, yes, we believe theyre going to come caucus. So, you know, this speculation and all the rest of it is entertaining, i admit that. But were going to keep moving forward and do the work we think is going to be successful on february 1. Are you worried that experience, your long resume, is not an asset in this wild year . No, im really not. I think at the end of the day people take this vote seriously. They know theyre voting for who they prefer to be the next president and commander in chief there talking with people about what we have to go up against here at home, get economy working for everybody, not just those at the top, begin to raise incomes, which hasnt happened, deal with health care, going from 90 coverage, which is what we have under the Affordable Care act now, to 100 and i lay out what i intend to do to get there, i can only tell you they see people nodding, i know people are signing up as they leave my events. Thats what matters here. Its very personal and people look and they think, can we imagine this person to be president and commander in chief . And because of my experience, particularly my years as secretary of state working with something that people really take into account. What are you willing to you know, its interesting, your husband used a lot of Political Capital you and your husband used a lot of Political Capital to do health care. President obama, arguably, used all of his Political Capital to what is it . What is the one issue you are going to be willing to use all your Political Capital to focus on . You and i both know you basically have one big shot at one big issue. What is it that youre willing to use all your Political Capital to do . Well, chuck, first of all, i dont agree with you on that. I think there are several really important issues, health care being one of them. Weve got to get costs down. I met a man on friday who no longer can afford to pay for his longer can afford to pay for his hiv medication. I met a woman yesterday who the bill she has taken for 25 years has gone from a couple hundred for 14,000 for the same amount of the drug. That hits my heart. I know what people are going through. Ill use whatever tools i can to get lower prices, cap Prescription Drug companies and take that on. But im going to focus on the economy because unless we create and fix the tax system so that it doesnt in so many ways tilt toward the wealthy, people are not going to get ahead, theyre not going to feel theyre getting ahead and theyre going to feel the government is rigged against them which is bad for our democracy. As you know, your opponent senator sanders has been hitting you on wall street contributions and including paid speeches you did for Goldman Sachs among other banks. Let me ask you this why do you think one of these big banks paid you over 200,000 for a speech. Look, i gave speeches to a wide array of groups from Health Care Groups to auto dealers and many, many more and i think what they were interested in because what we talked about was the world coming off of four years as secretary of state in a complicated world, people were interested in what i saw, what i thought, they asked questions about matters that were on their minds. A lot of interest in the bin laden raid, how such a tough decision was made and what i you know, i think americans who are doing business in every aspect of the economy want to know more about the world. I actually think its a good conversation for people to be having. You dont think they expect anything in return . Absolutely not. You know, first of all, i was a senator from new york. I took them on when i was senator. I took on the carried interest loophole. I took on what was happening in the mortgage markets. I was talking about that the in 2006. They know exactly where i stand. And ill tell you, chuck, its interesting to me that now karl rove has taken money from the financial interest whove taken an ad against me to influence democrats not to support me. Ask yourself why. He knows number one i know what must be done and number two i know how to get it done to make sure that wall street writ large, not just the banks but the investment banks, hedge funds and everybody else, no long kerr wreck our economy the the Des Moines Register editorial, in praising you and your experience, did bring up the email issue as one of those things that theyre frustrated with how you responded to it. Last week you were asked about the fbi investigation. Are you concerned . You said you havent been contacted by them. Are you concerned the investigation is taking too long . That its putting an extra cloud over your candidacy and until it gets behind you, youre going to have these issues and Michael Bloomberg even cited it as a reason why hes thinking about running. No, im not concerned because i know what the facts are. I never sent or received any material marked classified. I cannot control what the republicans leak and what they are contending and i thought it was interesting, chuck, youll as a political observer understand why. Back a couple months ago Kevin Mccarthy spilled the beans that the benghazi investigation was all about bringing me down, something that i suspected but i hours, answered all their questions and even they admitted there was nothing new. Now senator grassley shows up at a trump rally yesterday in iowa, hes the chairman of the Judiciary Committee who has and his staff have been behind and pushing a lot of these stories and announces hes there for the simple reason, to defeat me. I cant control what the republicans are doing. But i know what the facts are and i will just keep putting them out there. This is something that i think is very clear about what happened and i know it will be over and resolved at some point but i cant kwlool the republican republicans and their allies do. But i think its important voters know what theyre doing. And Michael Bloomberg . Your reaction to his potential candidacy . Hes a good friend of mine and im going to do the best i can to make sure that i get the nomination and well go from there. So youre not worried about him getting in . Said was if i didnt get the nomination he might consider it. Well, im going to relieve him of that and get the nomination so he doesnt have to. Madam secretary, stay safe on the trail. Well catch up with him soon. Thank you, good to talk to you. Now lets turn to her chief opponent senator Bernie Sanders whos also on the cam trail in dubuque, iowa. Senator, good morning to you. I want to start with getting your reaction. Ive not heard your reaction to this. Your colleague, senator claire mccaskell, said that republicans were licking their chops getting ready. Essentially they wont touch him right now because they cant wait to run an ad with a hammer and a sickle. What do you say to her . Well, what i say to her is that if she would look at the matchups taking place between Bernie Sanders and donald trump right now she would find that we were 15 points ahead of them nationally, that in states tossup states, battleground states like iowa and New Hampshire or even further ahead look forward to a race against donald trump, a guy who does not want to raise the minimum wage but wants to give hundreds of billions of dollars in tax breaks to the top twotenths of one percent who thinks wages in america are too high and who thinks that Climate Change is a hoax invented by the chinese. Chuck, there would be nothing more in this world that i would like to take on donald trump. We would beat him and we would beat him badly. But as you know, a lot of democrats are concerned and not a single one of them has endorsed your candidacy, i just read through that. Not a single democratic senator has endorsed your candidacy. Not a single democratic governor has endorsed your candidacy. What does that tell you . It tells me that we are taking on the political establishment, were taking on the economic establishment, the financial interest in this country and were taking on the corporate establishment. That is what is unique about trying to make a Political Revolution bring millions of people into the political process that washington and all of these politicians have significantly turned their backs on. So yes we have the establishment supporting secretary clinton. Thats not a secret. But the reason that our campaign is generating so much interest and enthusiasm is people think its time that we take on the establishment. Take on wall street, take on big money interests. And thats why i believe were doing as well as we are. Well, you have been calling for Political Revolution and there have been some critiques over it, though, that youre sort of narrow in where you call for revolution. Tanehisi coates, one of the more respected thinkers in the Civil Rights Movement these days wrote in the the atlantic why arent you for reparations for having to because of slavery for africanamericans when youre calling for Economic Justice on so many other levels . Why do you stop short on that issue . That barack obama has, the same clinton has. That is that its absolutely wrong and unacceptable that we have so much poverty in this country and it is even worse in the africanamerican community. That africanamerican kids between 17 and 20 who graduate high school have unemployment rates and underemployment rates of 51 . That 36 of africanamerican children are living in poverty. This is an issue that we have got to address. And my intention as president of the United States is to be very aggressive in dealing with those issues. To put our kids to work rather than see them go to jail. To improve our schools. Thats what we have to do and i think thats what the American People want. I understand that. But you didnt understand the question why you were why you werent in favor of reparations. Well, again, the same reason that the president is not and i think Hillary Clinton is not. What is that reason . We have got to invest in the future. Address poverty in america, something that very few people talk about and especially poverty in the africanamerican community. If you look at my record, and if you look at my agenda, raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour krerks hour, focusing on high rates of youth unemployment, i think our candidacy is the candidacy talking to the issues of the africanamerican community. Well, let me ask you, though, many africanamericans hear that and some will say okay, hes talking about major Economic Justice but an africanamerican raises his hand and says cant get that through congress, cant dealle with this because its politically very difficult, a lot of your other plans will be politically difficult if not impossible. Well, look, this is what i think that is looking at Politics Today as a zerosum approach. And what i am tie ry dog in this in the last election, 63 of the American People didnt vote. 80 of young people didnt vote in the midterm elections. That is why the rich get richer and that is why billionaires were able to buy elections. What we are trying to is do the say that in american democracy maybe its a radical idea but congress should represent working families and the middleclass rather than just wealthy campaign contributors. So, chuck, what i am trying to do now is change the dynamics of american politics, bring millions of young people, working class people into stand up and fight for their rights. When you that, yes, we can raise the minimum wage, we can create jobs. We can make public colleges and universities tuition free. That is what we have got to do. In 1988, you talked about a major difference between yourself and, at the time, the sort of insurgent candidate on the democratic party, Jesse Jackson. And you simply said jesse believes that serious social change is possible within the democratic party. Do you still believe that . Well, obviously not, im running for president of the United States in the democratic party. And, by the way, when you talk about my relationship to the africanamerican community, check out how many white public officials, elected officials, i did. And he won my state of vermont, he came to vermont, Jesse Jackson is a friend of mine. I thought he ran a brilliant campaign. But what my view is right now and the decision that i made as the longestserving independent in the history of the United States congress, i said if we are going to win this race, we have to do it within the democratic primary process, thats what were doing. And if you win, apparently youre going to have a third candidate in the race. Michael bloomberg has vowed if you are on your way to the nomination, hes running as an independent. Whats your reaction . Well, my reaction is that there will be if donald trump wins and mr. Bloom bergets in, youll have two against me. And i think the American People dont want to see our nation move toward an oligarchy where billionaires control the political process. I think well win that election. Bernie sanders, ill leave it there. From dubuque, iowa, well see you next week, i imagine, as we head to iowa to find out what happens. Thank you, sir, stay safe on the trail. Thank you. When we come back, trump versus cruz, each guy knows the other is the obstacle to the nomination. Donald trump joins me next. Welcome to the world 2116, you can fly across to