Make a come back. but the big asterisk there is can reality make a come back in american politics as long as donald trump is possibly going to be elected the next president of the united states because as mark mentioned, these things are not, they're not simply discreet. donald trump has worked very closely with each of these outlets. they are crucial cogs in the disinformation web out there. and as long as donald trump is there, and as long as you have elected officials like ron johnson who are willing to carry water for the big lie in these conspiracy theories, they can still do a lot of damage. and will do a lot of damage. >> yeah, i mean, look, we talk about trump's kind of infallibility at least in the core in terms of holding him accountability. i do think though mark, we talk about the states that are going to change this election and by all outside assessments it's, wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania. and in two of those states and
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