democrat or president biden. i would be more interested to see where generic republican nominee is in these polls, particularly in the five states, because that's what we know it comes down to those still, the big five. >> there's the new headline from the hill that showsfive. >> vice president kamala harris and michelle obama are the current top picks for 2024, that would be if president biden doesn't run. there is also rumor that secretary pete buttigieg is eyeing a run. michelle obama is amazing but she has said a thousand ways to christmas that she is not running. >> as of right now, joe biden is running. joe biden doesn't have a history of lying to the american people, so we should take it as though he's running. in the event that joe biden does not run, i want to be very, very clear to my fellow democrats, kamala harris should be the presumptive democratic nominee.